Misc Ketamine, combo

[illiquid]

Got a sample bag of K the other day and ended up snorting a relatively small amount, as it was my first time with the stuff. I remember just lying on bed, barely able to move, and thinking to myself: hmmm, this stuff is kinda boring. Then came a slightly nauseating comedown, which I usually NEVER have with any other drug. Did I just not take a high enough dose? My instinct is to say that if a higher dose = a more intense of whatever I was feeling, I don't want to bother.

So I'm asking others if combining K with another substance could radically change my experience with it? I've hippy and honey flipped several times and thoroughly enjoyed it, how bout a kittyflip? If you didn't really like K on its own, would a kitty flip suck as well?

I guess I've never gotten close to a K-hole. There's about 300mg left in the bag, should I go for it and take a full/larger dose before I give up on this stuff?

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I can guarantee you weren't paralyzed, you just got a bit lazy.
When you do a higher dose then the visuals and dissociation really kick in.
I love low dose k, I love high dose k, I just fucking love k.
I'd recommend laying out two to three 50mg bumps on your nightstand, turning the lights off, lay in your bed and start with one and after 10-15 minutes try another if you aren't where you wanna be.
Ketamine really shines when you're deprived of visual and auditory stimulation
K when combined with mdma is fun for raves because it helps combat the awkward wobble feeling you get when you only do k.
Ketamine and psychedelics is the best fucking feeling ever, just be careful cause shit can get wild real fast, they have a beautiful but powerful synergy

 

[Chikkenstorm]

You could also try to keep moving after taking your dose instead of lying down right away. Dancing is awesome on K IMO, up until the point where you're so dissociated from everything you don't even remember what dancing means. Even at that point I like to stagger around my room (always making sure 3 limbs have some support, or just crawling on the floor) wondering where and who the hell I am. Personally I've never gotten to the point where I was unable to move if I really wanted to.
Kittyflipping is really nice if you get the balance between the K and MDMA right, but if you're not feeling any dissociation I doubt you'd get any benefit from the combo. I agree you should try 150mg K divided in 3 doses, waiting a short time between each one. If that isn't doing anything except sedate you, I really doubt it's Ketamine you have.

 

[illiquid]

I think what really killed it for me was this overall slight feeling of nausea which I have yet to experience with any other substance; my relative inexperience with insulffated substances probably also contributed. But I just never felt anything that could be described as "good", just dissociation and numbness/loss of motor control. I completely despise nausea (one of the reasons I hate drinking) and it's a big turnoff for me so again, if perhaps taking a higher dose would get me over the nausea part I might actually be able to enjoy it.

Chikken, I only snorted around 60-80mgs in two lines, it did alot more than sedate me. But just not enough for me to outweigh the nausea/drip during and after. I guess I'll end up trying more again, always hate to waste anything Would swap it mg for mg for 2cb anyday tho!

 

[Chikkenstorm]

I've never felt nauseous on ketamine, so I don't really know how to avoid it. You could try a higher dose, maybe it'll work and maybe it'll just make you more nauseous. You could also titrate your dose, taking 5-10mg lines every 15 minutes to the point you get nauseous. It could be the drip that's causing it, but perhaps your brain gets sort of motion sick from the dissociation. I'm just making wild guesses, but if you can pin down the source of the nausea, you're more likely to find a solution.

Trading 2C-B and Ketamine 1:1 would be a pretty unfair deal for the other guy

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

nausea is a side effect of NMDA antagonist...

Higher doses will most likely be tributed to you not being used to it...

Low to high subanesthetic doses do create the illusion of movement to your brain... This could also be a reason...

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I'm particularly susceptible to nausea, but after my first few times with the substance I never got the nausea anymore, and even then I hardly ever did, the only time it was bad was when I was pretty whacked and trying to play halo with my buddy.
The visual stimulation got to be wayyy to much so I just laid down for a bit and it was ok

 

[fallenangel3]

Holy,
You always have great insight. I have done everything under the sun, MDMA was my fav, even as heroin was my choice in the feeling good dept. I don't mess around anymore. Getting older, so now I'm trying to take care of
myself. But my X days were lovely. I wear a Fent patch now for chonic Pain, don't feel it, just glad I can live pain free. But I'd be lying if I said all the goodies and more that were not mentioned, makes us feel good. I get oxys20ml for breakthrough pain and wanted to feel some euphoria so I started snorting them up until yesterday. I only did it for a few weeks. I use to IV anything that would breakdown. Anyway a good guy helped me out on here, seemed real sweet by his words. He told me to stop snorting and just chew which is better and I knew that but I wanted that rush. Which last 5 seconds it seemed. So I am chewing and that's not every 2 hours cuz chewing last longer its like speed . I do have a question one thing I don't think I have ever done is K, what is its make up? Is it like MDMA or a trippy thing?
I personally like it mellow , so just curious.

 

[fallenangel3]

Got a sample bag of K the other day and ended up snorting a relatively small amount, as it was my first time with the stuff. I remember just lying on bed, barely able to move, and thinking to myself: hmmm, this stuff is kinda boring. Then came a slightly nauseating comedown, which I usually NEVER have with any other drug. Did I just not take a high enough dose? My instinct is to say that if a higher dose = a more intense of whatever I was feeling, I don't want to bother.

So I'm asking others if combining K with another substance could radically change my experience with it? I've hippy and honey flipped several times and thoroughly enjoyed it, how bout a kittyflip? If you didn't really like K on its own, would a kitty flip suck as well?

I guess I've never gotten close to a K-hole. There's about 300mg left in the bag, should I go for it and take a full/larger dose before I give up on this stuff?

I am older, but you guys crack me up, I was doing my trippin and flippen in the 70s 80s 90's. Hey what is kittenflippen, honeyflipeN what does these words mean. Just curious. And No I'm far from a Dork, I can hear you thinking that in your L'll flippN heads. Heeheee this is all meant well, promise.
Peace

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Holy,
You always have great insight. I have done everything under the sun, MDMA was my fav, even as heroin was my choice in the feeling good dept. I don't mess around anymore. Getting older, so now I'm trying to take care of
myself. But my X days were lovely. I wear a Fent patch now for chonic Pain, don't feel it, just glad I can live pain free. But I'd be lying if I said all the goodies and more that were not mentioned, makes us feel good. I get oxys20ml for breakthrough pain and wanted to feel some euphoria so I started snorting them up until yesterday. I only did it for a few weeks. I use to IV anything that would breakdown. Anyway a good guy helped me out on here, seemed real sweet by his words. He told me to stop snorting and just chew which is better and I knew that but I wanted that rush. Which last 5 seconds it seemed. So I am chewing and that's not every 2 hours cuz chewing last longer its like speed . I do have a question one thing I don't think I have ever done is K, what is its make up? Is it like MDMA or a trippy thing?
I personally like it mellow , so just curious.

Nothing like mdma, it is very trippy and psychedelic in a completely unique manner.
smaller doses have the feel of being drunk as you kinda start stumbling a bit, and your vision does that thing it does when you drink.
But in progressively higher doses it gets particularly psychedelic, you got mad double vision (you can always tell someone is really high on k when they're squinting at you with one eye trying to see you clearly)
Then the k hole hits and your vision can go black and you're transported to another fucking world where you could be flying through space or more.
One k hole I had I just watched a war movie, and I could hear war planes zooming around, and there was a field of soldiers marching towards me, then the whole world turned upside down, and suddenly I was flying over a city and into a big meeting hall, hovered there for a bit and then I heard a sucking noise as I flew into the body of someone sitting at the table and then a loud pop and I was back in my bed