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Ketamine: Can't K-hole

RoomforJello

RoomforJello

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So I recently discovered Ketamine and am loving it. But I can't seem to K-hole, mostly because it just seems to block my nose doing upwards of 200mg and can't take anymore. The closest I got(with weed) my closed eye "vision" just went green, like a completely green landscape.
I don't want to IM(fuck needles, but no offense to the people that do) despite it seeming the best way to achieve this.
So I'm thinking of doing a "large" oral dose(~250mg) then following up with couple of average(60mg) lines but I've heard oral K is different/waste.

Is this the best option or is there a better method to snorting this amount of K(taking ~50mg bumps/lines every 4-5minutes, sometimes snorting water)?

How long does oral K take to kick in? What time would be best to snort the lines?

Is "cooked" ketamine easier to snort? I already chop/crush it pretty fine.

How quickly does K tolerance build?

Side note: I've used some, hell most would say I abused MXE but that was about a year ago if not longer so I highly doubt it will be a cross tolerance thing.
Edit: I have also been using NBOME's but as far as I know they don't act on the same receptors(I know these haven't been well researched) so shouldn't cause cross tolerance from my limited knowledge, but who knows they do have some very weird tolerance issues with other psychs.
Cheers
 
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prepare 4x50mg. snort as needed/possible. should do the trick.
remember that k-holes are not only determined by dose, but also by set&setting as with any other psychoactive.
 
Thats pretty much what I'm doing. It just gets to the point where its either not going up my nose fully or not working at all.
Set and setting, is in bed with music so I don't know, I'll try it without music or different style maybe.
I am kinda heavy so maybe I just need to up the doses but then again that won't help snorting it.
 
Rectal administration maybe? It's pretty much unheard of, but should share the same bioavailabilty as nasal (or better). I guess people just don't do it because numbing up your ass isn't really that comfortable.
 
I was thinking this, but not sure if I want to in general, not just K. I guess I'll keep it in mind but not something I'm in a rush to do maybe if I can't K-hole through snorting.
Anyone tried oral/combo of oral and snorting?
Maybe its just weak K but reviews from a site that must not be named are to the contrary saying its good and at smaller doses, its at least comparative to trip reports as "good" and effects lasting a solid hour.
Is S-isomer K better for holing? I've heard is "trippier" but that could just mean CEVs/OEVs.
 
Re k tolerance I find that it will be there pretty much the day after. I can have a large dose and good trip one night then equal or higher dose next night and get fucked up with little to no psychedelic effects. If I was you I'd wait around a week since last use, snort around 2 points then boost it with another point about half way in
 
Sweet Jones said:
Re k tolerance I find that it will be there pretty much the day after. I can have a large dose and good trip one night then equal or higher dose next night and get fucked up with little to no psychedelic effects. If I was you I'd wait around a week since last use, snort around 2 points then boost it with another point about half way in
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Maybe I just need a longer T break then. I'll give this a try and probably boost with some hash before the third point as well. If still doesn't work I'll play around with the ROA(s). It seems that I get close to holing at around the .2 mark but then can't snort any more. Maybe if I just need to wait a bit longer for my nose to clear before taking the final dose.
Thanks for the responses. Pretty much answered apart from the oral K, but I've heard its pretty ineffective, still might try it if my nose still fails me.
 
You're saying you're unable to do it all in one big line? I know if I try several smaller lines to get the full dose it often becomes difficult to finish because my nose clogs quickly, but I can take single lines of up to around 350 mg and hole with no more difficulty than a short stinging sensation. It hits very quickly but still leaves me with just enough time to blow my nose at around the five minute mark before sinking into the hole.

Definitely take long breaks between attempting holes since dissociative tolerance tends to stick around for a while. Another method I've had some success with (although it isn't quite the same) is dosing a bit of MXE (between 25-50 mg) then at the peak taking the K for a hole. This method uses less powder and lowers the chance of your nose being too clogged as a result.
 
Hate to say it, I had similar problems and ended up giving in to the im route. However I was stillableto k hole nasaly by completely filling my nose with two 200 mg rails, one in each nostril. Some of the k was undoubtedly wasted, but it did the trick. Very gross however.
 
Hardly harm reduction, but have you ever taken mdma and k together.

My experience with the two seperate and in combo's made me realize I could hole under the influence of mdma on very low ammounts of K.
I never holed on K alone snorted, but a little bump here and there with an tiny line while on mdma and we were in the hole.
Which is very beatiful and alien.

I also get great CEV especially when listening to the right music like chemical brothers ("lost in the k hole" is a good starting point but almost any song will do).
So that's something worth to try put on some (o)K music. Good luck Good for Jello
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Hardly harm reduction, but have you ever taken mdma and k together.

My experience with the two seperate and in combo's made me realize I could hole under the influence of mdma on very low ammounts of K.
I never holed on K alone snorted, but a little bump here and there with an tiny line while on mdma and we were in the hole.
Which is very beatiful and alien.

I also get great CEV especially when listening to the right music like chemical brothers ("lost in the k hole" is a good starting point but almost any song will do).
So that's something worth to try put on some (o)K music. Good luck Good for Jello
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Yeah I have tried K and MDMA(at least what was sold as MDMA, rolled for 3 to 4 hours so assume it was) it didn't put me in a hole though, just made the experience more euphoric and more trippy, it is a nice combo. Didn't add much K to the mix and was just chilling, playing video games with some friends who where drinking so probably not the right set and setting.

I will probably be repeating it when I have some more MDMA but would like to hole with just K(well maybe some weed as well) for the experience.
Also thanks, don't worry I'll get there somehow.:D

Edit: Didn't see the other posts.

Yeah I think its staggering the dose that just stops my nose working and therefore not being able to snort anymore. Perhaps the larger doses in less bumps/lines is a better albeit less efficient way. Maybe a 50 mg bump for the anesthetic properties, some water then a 250mg line will do.
I'll play around with the ROA's/different ways to snort and report back. Will be a while as I was at a party and hit the K pretty hard tho.

As my first post mentions I had a little problem with MXE not as bad some BLers but it did see me go through 5gs of the stuff in around 3 weeks(my tolerance became ridiculous) so I'll try and stay away from that, no doubt I will return to that weird and wonderful drug tho.
 
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Toz said:
Rectal administration maybe? It's pretty much unheard of, but should share the same bioavailabilty as nasal (or better). I guess people just don't do it because numbing up your ass isn't really that comfortable.
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It actual takes up to 400mg or so of k rectally administrated to k hole.
One of the few drugs with such a low rectal BA

IDK if 200mg isn't doing it for you, get better ketamine
 
Guess that rules out rectal(thankfully I guess).
I was thinking that, but I think its more, not getting enough into me fast enough because of nose problems, I am also kinda heavy(haven't weighed in a while but over or around 200lb) and erowids K-hole dose is around 1mg per lb so I don't know.
Also the 200mg dose is probably less because of lack of absorption.
I'll try a different source the next time anyway.
 
It can be crushed into a fine powder and then mixed in with plain unscented lotion. Easy to rub into your skin. If your lotion feels like sand...the powder needs to be made finer.
 
dylansmere said:
It can be crushed into a fine powder and then mixed in with plain unscented lotion. Easy to rub into your skin. If your lotion feels like sand...the powder needs to be made finer.
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I see no way that this could give you any psychoactive effects, people have even supposedly had trouble replicating Hofmanns accidental transdermal LSD dosing
Ketamine is mixed into lotions because it is also a topical anesthetic, so if you want to numb your skin, go right ahead
 
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I was thinking this myself, was wondering why he mentioned it considering I am talking about K-holing which would surely take grams and grams using this method, if it would even work that way.
 
Yea if you don't wanna IM but wanna k-hole nasal is definitely the next best and by far the easiest
Definitely take a week off though before you try again, I can definitely vouch for the removal of psychedelic effects the day after because of tolerance
 
Re mixing it with hash I've snorted and then smoked a large joint of decent weed in that ~10 minute space before the K effects fully kick in, and that definitely fucks you right up and made K a lot more visual for me (K by itself the visual aspect will be things like everything in my view being wider/flatter, phone becomes triangle shaped, etc) whereas weed had my entire vision (in completely dark room) filled with constant bizarre, nonsense cartoonish animations that seemed to dance to the music I was listening to. And this was off less K than I was used to. But, I tried this combo two days in a row, and the second day, nothing like it.
 
Yea smoking weed helps considerably.
But it can also make the body high extremely powerful, to the point of being uncomfortable (or it does for me)
I always recommend not to get too stoned then try it. If you can handle being more stoned then take another small hoot until you find your sweet spot.
It really brings out the numbness as well, I love it
 
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