Dissociatives Ketamine, but without the side effects

[Bitchniggaz]

Out of curiosity, how far into the muscle should you go?
The first time I ever used ket was many years ago and it was IM. I was on many other substances at the time and I don’t remember feeling anything significant…but I don’t remember much about the entire situation. All I know is that my ‘friend’ passed it to me and I did it. I don’t know how much I used, what ‘kind’ it was, or anything like that.

What would a recommended dose be for someone who’s snorted several grams before but no real experience other than that?

Sorry if it’s been said already

A regular insuline syringe is long enough, i guess they around 1inch or so.

Like i wrote before i usually do about 30-50mg per shot.
Then i redose about every 20-30mins until im at the level i feel like at the moment.
You can use the same syringe for at least 10shots before it goes blunt, just make sure to vipe it with some alcohol.
Or rotate syringes and then clean them in boiling water etc.

Doing several smaller doses in a row feels alot smoother then trying to go all in with obe big dose imo.
IM hits hard and fast so going from sober to fullon hole can be quite overwhelming.
I would rather build up to it over an hour or so if im going that deep.

However most times i use Ket at subhole doses and usually binge some good movies or series.

 

[scabbard]

I know next to nothing about injecting stuff, so bare with me on this. Can you use regular syringes from Amazon and just wipe em with alcohol or is that not sufficient? I looked into those filters - if there were contaminants in the K, would it be more likely to have a detrimental effect on your health if you were to inject it as opposed to snorting it with those contaminants?

As far as injection depth, do you really have to stick the needle an entire inch deep into your arm?

 

[scabbard]

Also, could you dissolve the K in simple saline and then use a dropper to put it in your eye - would that work?

 

[Innerpeace]

A regular insuline syringe is long enough, i guess they around 1inch or so.

Like i wrote before i usually do about 30-50mg per shot.
Then i redose about every 20-30mins until im at the level i feel like at the moment.
You can use the same syringe for at least 10shots before it goes blunt, just make sure to vipe it with some alcohol.
Or rotate syringes and then clean them in boiling water etc.

Doing several smaller doses in a row feels alot smoother then trying to go all in with obe big dose imo.
IM hits hard and fast so going from sober to fullon hole can be quite overwhelming.
I would rather build up to it over an hour or so if im going that deep.

However most times i use Ket at subhole doses and usually binge some good movies or series.

Your spreading misinformation. You can use re use sub q, and could reuse I'm but best not to. If you do an I'm it is best as the largest dose. Pinning yourself is not to be taking lightly, I've done it everyday with hormones and do it a lot. That said an insulin syringe which is half an inch is fine , if you are lean enough in most muscle groups. Use rubbing alcohol and be sterile, infections suck, and so do post injection pain ,pip, knots suck as well. Sub q can and will make marks but it's in fat.

As a rule of thumb like medical pros say use a needle one time. Skin needles are cheap and can buy them anywheres. You can get 0.25 for sub q and 0.5 for im

Iming you risk hitting a vein ,I think I've done this with ketamine and went under ,in an instant. Sub q is better for not as intense. If you want to get intense or khole I'm is the way to go , depending on your bodyweight, tolerance. Do as you wish though I dislike needles bc I have to use them untill I die, more than likely and they effing hurt

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Your spreading misinformation. You can use re use sub q, and could reuse I'm but best not to. If you do an I'm it is best as the largest dose. Pinning yourself is not to be taking lightly, I've done it everyday with hormones and do it a lot. That said an insulin syringe which is half an inch is fine , if you are lean enough in most muscle groups. Use rubbing alcohol and be sterile, infections suck, and so do post injection pain ,pip, knots suck as well. Sub q can and will make marks but it's in fat.

As a rule of thumb like medical pros say use a needle one time. Skin needles are cheap and can buy them anywheres. You can get 0.25 for sub q and 0.5 for im

Iming you risk hitting a vein ,I think I've done this with ketamine and went under ,in an instant. Sub q is better for not as intense. If you want to get intense or khole I'm is the way to go , depending on your bodyweight, tolerance. Do as you wish though I dislike needles bc I have to use them untill I die, more than likely and they effing hurt

I reuse all the time so i actually agree with you.
But for harm reduction reasons i recomend people using fresh needles or at least wash them after use.
If you have several needles you can easily clean them at the same time and then reuse in the same session etc.

Never tried subq but heard it works, i just prefer to use my delts.

 

[YellowMan2010]

Can you explain how to mix the powder with BAC to get proper dose for IM?

 

[YellowMan2010]

You will be fine with that kind of protocol for sure.
I also prefer subhole doses nowadays but i like to make a longer session out of it.
So i usually do 50mg shots once or tvice per hour for an evening or sometimes longer.
Love binging movies or series while being at that medium level Ket state.

I switched to IM about 10years ago, that also helps to keep the doses lower and more exact.

Since you are planing on doing light doses i would recomend making nasal spray.
You can buy empty bottles made for it and then just mix the Ket with some water contaning sodium.
Not sure how long it will be sterile in solution though.
But you could probably make smaller batches and store it in the fridge.

The nasal spray will be more effective then snorting pure powder.
Also easier to get a more even dose.

How do you properly mix powder with BAC for proper IM dose?

 

[tryptakid]

Actually I have the nasal spray bottles, and I have simple saline solution as well. Does ketamine dissolve easily in simple saline?

In the past I've actually done a test to determine how much each spray dispensed (I weighed the sprayer before and after each spray). Over 20 trials or so, I think it ranged from 100 - 180mg per spray. So not super consistent.

As far as dosing goes, what do you think I could expect to experience with 25mg of ketamine (I'm 145 lbs)? And if that's not enough, what is the protocol for re-dosing (e.g. with something like acid, I know the tolerance builds extremely quickly - based on your description it doesn't sound like that's an issue with ketamine)? Is ketamine dosage fairly linear, or is it like 2C-B, where each additional mg is more potent?

Ketamine is better administered as a nasal spray via distilled water. Saline is good for clearing out your nose (which is why you use saline in nasal sprays and neti pots to rinse out your sinuses) - ketamine is bound to hcl salt which renders saline + ketamine hcl as way too salt heavy for proper osmosis through the nasal mucosa. Ketamine Hcl + distilled water makes the solution more suitable for osmosis.

Ketamine is also inherently anti-microbial which makes it less risky for developing bacterial contamination. That said, some people recommend adding a small amount of ethanol to your spray or if available benzyl alcohol. Either way - it seems to be pretty safe to simply use ketamine + distilled water as long as you observe clean technique when combining.

Ketamine is soluble in up to 200mg/ml which would give you a potency of 20mg/spray as nasal spray atomizers are typically 10 sprays/ml.

This can be limiting with how much you can administer intranasal at one time (40mg with 5-10 minutes of absorption from nasal sprays alone). A workaround is to retain some powdered ketamine which you would then snort after your initial sprays, allowing for higher dose by nose in one go if you're looking for a high dose trip. You might dose something like 20mg per nostril via spray, and then 25mg in a line for each nostril giving you a total dose of 90mg (45mg per nostril). You can then repeat as desired to achieve a high enough dose for a k-hole.

IM injection is also suitable when adminstered with distilled water and ketamine. Again, clean technique is highly recommended (clean your via with alcohol, wash hands with soap/water and then hand santizer, use sterile equipment for drawing up any liquids). Ketamine will dissolve pretty readily in up to 200mg/ml as mentioned, though gently shaking it for a few minutes may be helpful especially if you have large chunks of ketamine crystals that you are trying to dissolve.

 

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