Ketamine Appreciation thread

[felix]

Meh, I've given up on K.

Last time I had some I decided to have 2 big lines due to a bad bad influence that thought it would be a good idea.

Pffffffftttt. Not my fault you're a lightweight.

The worst thing about K is hearing someone else puking in the bathroom. :D

 

[Miss Peks]

bzzzzzzzzttttttttt

Pffffffftttt. Not my fault you're a lightweight.

The worst thing about K is hearing someone else puking in the bathroom. :D

Bzzzzzzttttt, wrong answer.

I was talking about a more recent time.

 

[felix]

Bad influences ROCK. :D

 

[Miss Peks]

Of course you would say that.

 

[Brownz]

kETAMINE IS USELESS ON ME!

Cos' your hard !

 

[Evad]

would love to try IM but snorting is wicked, one of my fave tasting chems.

 

[B9]

Bad influences ROCK

I shall remember that quote felix :D

 

[B9]

Cos' your hard !

Really ? I never thought of it like that at all, I just thought I had some kind of natural immunity!
I bow to your superior intellect in these matters brownz

 

[Church]

Yeah ket sucks
acid sucks
pills suck
the homeless suck

smack sucks
coke sucks
speed sucks
you fucking whining nazi bastard ! You suck (god knows what you'll suck when you run out of drink money

ROFL!!! HAHAHAhahaha

 

[SpellmanT7]

umm, arr, err . . .

this is bugging me...


I went for 250mg nasal to get to the k-hole last night and the whole experience was so greatly influenced by background stimuli, that I'm left wondering whether I was actually IN or not...

ok, so I opted for a music video dvd - the ministry of sound 2005 dvd. Essentially a culmination of many cheesy, 'dave pearce'-like tunes from that year.

My trip seemed to draw each and every song title inside me and apply it as a question or philosophy even.

I'm going to cut and paste the listing from amazon

(glad I've come far enough down to earth to realise that I can just do that, could easily see myself having to have whipped out a pen and paper whilst reviewing the dvd in my living room, if I was still more 'fucked')

1. Eric Prydz - Call On Me
2. Boogie Pimps - Somebody To Love (it all started here I think)
3. Danzel - Pump It Up
4. Intenso Project feat. Lisa Scott-Lee - Get it On
5. Benny Benassi Presents The Biz - Satisfaction
6. Angel City Feat. Lara McAllen - Love Me Right (Oh Sheila)
7. Stellar Project Feat. Brandi Emma - Get Up Stand Up
8. Candee Jay - If I Were You
9. Tomcraft - Loneliness
10. DJ Sammy & Yanou Feat. Do - Heaven (things wore off here - 'possession of myself by ketamine faded out and it was more a case of 'run-of-the-mill' heaven-esque CEVs, therefore cutting out the remaining tracks)

now, I was going to go through the tracks, and their interaction, in chronological order but realised that this small, teensy-weensy thing prevents me- memory!!!

the point is,

(and I'm struggling because "This message is brought to you by nitrous")

I think my eyes were closed either as a result of a deliberate, calculated decision *OR* by anaesthesia but the music -not the visuals, seemed to take TOO great an influence on my trip for me to be in the k-hole. I'm wondering if I may have been 'rimming' the hole>

Don't get me wrong, CEVs gave way to quasi-faceted dimensional shifting as I felt physically moved as I travelled through the empires of honesty , love, trust, relationships etc.

but

in a k-hole, would I not be somewhat oblivious to the lyrics, any sentiment etc?? I don't want anyone to be confused as to thinking I'd been in a 'diet' K trip - this was fullblown but did I *will* myself into a fabricated hole?

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN INSIDE! I've bumped away at 50mg lines over the course of an evening (I'm talking other occasions of course - the 250mg tonight was a one shot dose) and this was a world apart from that but was I inside? I tested myself while there - 'Am I having to breathe?' This test was essentially the keystone on which my prior 'k-hole self-designation' lay. I passed on this occassion and the time before but... words fail me (yeah, I know, I know - they haven't failed me enough to not have spouted on for god knows how much space on a page!)

Any answers?

 

[MrMoss]

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN INSIDE!

You are inside when you know there is no way out and resign yourself to the fact As for music it just becomes a gramaphone record that's scratched and repeats the same segment over and over I think the choice of music does have an impact on the experience.

 

[fizzacyst]

Sad to say, but the effects of IM use are so different from nasal (a true psychedelic via IM), but not everyone wants to have to fuck around with needles, aseptic technique etc.

Used nasally, it just seems like a recreational depressant type of drug - if that was all it did IM I'd be with the people saying it isn't that wonderful as well, but IM with either cannabis or a serotonogic hallucinogen it is simply gobsmacking...

Can you describe the differences a little? I've only been taking it nasally. I weigh 60Kg (approx), and doing ~150mg at once puts out OUT THERE. I am having a hard time deciding exactly what the "k-hole" is. At those doses, I have surreal visions of things, its as if physical constants of the universe have been changed.. gravity is fucked, I cannot really see. Sometimes I am not sure if my eyes are open or not. Time? WTF is time?

Once I was laying in front of my speakers, with some nice drifting ambient music. I couldn't tell where teh music was coming from, even though I knew it came out of the speakers. Really wierd.

Am I undershooting the mark if I am still able to hear music and percieve things goign on around me to a limited degree?

 

[Church]

I weigh the same as you, and I find that 150-175 mg is my usual k-hole dose. If my frequency of use goes up (like to twice a week) I find I might need 200 or so, but with once a week or less usage, I can snort 75 mg up each nostril, lay down in my bed, turn off the lights, and melt into silence.

Personally, to me, there is no difference between the experiences I've had IM'ing and the times I've had snorting. With IM there was no drip, but strangely enough I could still taste it in my mouth. The k-hole is characterized by the timelessness, and the complete loss of self. As if I am time, I am space, I am matter, I am all there is, and there is no such thing as I, no concept of it.

Then comes re-entry. :D

 

[fizzacyst]

I must have been on the edge then. I'll have to give it a break for a while, then take a full dose. I had been working my way up, in order to not scare the shit out out of myself or accidentally have a life-altering experience when I wasn't expecting such an intenstity. So over the past few weeks I've been taking bumps here and there.

Unlike many, I seem to enjoy the wonky lower dose feelings. Its like extended-release nitrous to me, and I've stayed in that state for around 4-5 hours before, taking 25-30mg rails every few minutes.

I'm sure I had some tolerance when I did the 150mg rail, though I didn't expect it to have such a big impact. At times, it almost felt like I was a different person, or as if I existed as conversation between two people, or like I was on the ceiling and floor at the same time. Truly odd. I can't say anything else has ever made me feel quite so strange.

 

[fastandbulbous]

At times, it almost felt like I was a different person, or as if I existed as conversation between two people, or like I was on the ceiling and floor at the same time. Truly odd. I can't say anything else has ever made me feel quite so strange.

That's pretty damn close, but once you get sensory shutdown you know as that last step isn't a totally smooth transition to n'existe pas at that point, the music playing then become irrelevant (but the music leading up to it definitely sets the mood - I once had a somewhat scary experience because the last song I remembered before shutdown was 'Comfortably Numb' and fuck, it sounded really sinister!). Beyond that it's difficult to describe as there are no language constructs or references that work, other than possibly,'what it feels like to be god'

 

[disambiguation]

I used to thing that strange floral bouquet that comes from ketlar was a result of some part of the smuggling process, like a vague talcum scent. However Ive since cooked it from ketlar vials and it is just the distinctive scent of this brand! Perhaps its the benzium chloride or whatever the preservative is?

The other vetinary use ketamines tend to be more sulphuorus in their drip and less floral.

Either way the bouquet from Ketlar is by far my favourite. Mmm tingly goodness. I'm getting back into K in a big way. It makesd me so happy!

so thats what the fuck this weird smell is!!!!!!!!


answered a question without me even asking it!!!



cheers!

 

[SpellmanT7]

How would you rate the 'extent of genuine physical sensation' over 'perceived physical sensation',

(i.e.'genuine' = last night I felt the descent, as my coffin lowered through several feet of earth, along with the scratching made by the soil and rocks around me. 'Perceived' = would surely have been akin to someone reporting that they'd visualised the event and not physically experienced the movement)

as a measure of k-hole proximity/immersion?

I think I may try 300mg next time. My first k-hole dose was 150-200mg, last night was 250mg. The second dose was less enjoyable (but more enlightening) but the brief 'you are the reincarnation of god', coupled with the belief that nobody, absolutely nobody has trips as good as this (I appreciate that many people on K do but at the time, I thought I was fortunate to be a deity and only he/she could have it like this).

My advice to myself and everyone else struggling with the 'hole experience or not?' question - if it's good, enjoy what it is. Perhaps I'll try absolute darkness, with no music for my next go.

 

[B9]

*shrugs*

 

[Gavin83]

The k-hole is characterized by the timelessness, and the complete loss of self. As if I am time, I am space, I am matter, I am all there is, and there is no such thing as I, no concept of it.

Then comes re-entry. :D

That just about sums it up for me. When I k-hole it's like I'm no longer a physical being but more an orb of energy floating around in a timeless vortex. It's a strange feeling and something I'm yet to experience on anything else, most drugs alter what's already there, K is the only thing I've done which truly takes you somewhere else.

 

[B9]

Never taken me anywhere at all !!!!!! Recall sunday morning Gavin ? I don't recall disappearing at all despite trying to!