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Ketamine - 5th time - Instinctual ego shattering

Baker

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Location
Sydney, Australia
200mg dosage (Unknown as the dose was eyeballed using a 0.0g scale and could contain impurities, so I’m unsure)
I suspect under 150mg
Weight 68 kilograms, around 150pounds.

Prior knowledge (skip if you want)
Anyway firstly I’d like to point out that I took piracetam 1600mg the day before which could have affected my trip.
Another interesting point I thought I’d point out, (I don’t know if its just me) but low doses of ketamine tranquilize me and are euphoric, while higher doses get dysphoric as my heart starts racing and I get extremely hot (I’m also quite sensitive to DXM so could be just me and my weird reactions to dissociatives).

Anyway I started off by cutting the powder into 3 lines, Did the first, then a couple minutes later did a second, they burned a little, and I waited for any effects by the 5 minute mark. By this point I thought what the hell and snorted the third line. Mmmmm tastes like the smell of chemical cat piss dripping down my throat, Yumm. I shake my head subconsciously in disgust. I sit around and wait for the effects to arise, put some music on.

0:10
I sit there and notice the subtle effects coming on, Some euphoria, sedation, time dilation, It feels nice to move, jump and dance around, although I’m my balance is a bit off and feel I may trip or fall over. It feels like I am weightless yet I am still being sedated in a heavy yet feeling light way (if that makes sense). Anyway the music’s starting to sound really low and I’m beginning to notice intricacies in the songs that I’ve never noticed before, trip hop seems more suitable for this situation as the effects become more pronounced.

0:20
Ok I’m starting to feel very dissociated now, my hearts started racing, I’ve got a lot of energy and feeling extremely hot on this winter night, look in the mirror my chest has gone red and my cheeks are flushed, ok I start getting a little paranoid but I just shunt it off opening my doors and windows to cool the room down.

0:30
after some dissociated thinking I decide to go walk it off outside (have that feeling, I’ve got to get out of here) where its far cooler and I can attempt to cool down with just a shirt and shorts on (implying that I was obviously fairly hot, because its quite cold outside). While I’m outside the thought crosses my mind that its just dissociation that’s making me feel this way and being out in the cold not dressed properly can’t be healthy (then again, taking drugs isn’t too healthy either, lol). As I walk around my neighbourhood I hear a car drive past, its as if I can hear each sound wave hitting me, I can hear the sound from the same car about 10 times.

Unknown time here, time dilation is a getting a bit too intense
I walk up the street and I am feeling weightless, feeling very tall and then very short. It is getting quite difficult to walk and if I stop walking I move around in a hundred different directions like a roller coaster. I walk down one street and the smells are overwhelming so I turn around and walk the other way, then the irrelevance of where I am starts to set in.

Suddenly I’m not looking where I’m walking anymore, instead I feel like I don’t exist, but exist everywhere, I am no longer seeing what’s in front of my but its almost like head movies similar to the ones on a 3rd plateau DXM trip, I stop thinking it doesn’t make sense, It feels as if my instincts have left me, I don’t know how to feel, to perceive, to see, to hear, suddenly my life seems very irrelevant, I’m not scared its more just a feeling like I’m dead, but the message I got was that life wasn’t death but the other way around, my normal life is a place where I’m already dead.

Whoosh the rollercoaster starts making a little more sense again, I’m standing in this dark street, everything is spinning just a tad too fast, feels like I’ve been running really hard, I turn around and head back home, I feel quite sick the water bottle that I had in my pocket tastes like water that was taken from the ground, eg it tastes as if it has “earth” or soil in it. I get back home, crumple on my couch and get my bin over, with an urge to spew. My room is still incredibly hot, A little bit comes out of my stomach, and saliva. I start to feel better, I blow my nose and that starts sobering me up. I can’t look away from the bin as to me at this moment it’s the only thing that makes sense. I sit around for a while thinking about everything that’s just happened to me, feels like a few hours, I just want it over now.

I sit in my chair feeling a little less nauseous, I start to cool down, but I feel a bit drained as it wears off. As I start cooling down I decide to close my door and windows. Everything’s getting better, the worlds not spinning as much, the bubbles of reality have stop exploding in my face. By about 1h after my last line I feel almost back to normal, still getting some minor tracers and minor visuals, quite different to other hallucinogen visuals.

I sit and stare into space as I feel my appetite slowly returning, I drink some water and I’m filled with pleasure… It tastes normal, I can smell again, I’m no longer hot I can turn on the heat. Yes proper heat, I am getting immense joy out of the things i’d do normally, continue the songs on my play list and they sound so much different then what they did before. I am happy; don’t feel like anymore k or drugs at least at the moment, and perhaps for a while. Life’s good.

Well I’m not sure if that’s a k-hole but its as close as I’ve ever been, the higher on K I get the more nervous and freaked out I get, however when I hit that brief moment which I have no idea of how long it lasted, everything seemed to lack emotion.

To me Dissociatives seems to shatter the ego of instincts leaving me with only my learnt knowledge to fend for myself. I can forget how to swallow, forget how to go to the toilet forget how to speak, to breathe (it feels like), forget to process; light, sounds, colour, smell, taste, touch and lastly time and memory. I find this different to Acid as it leaves you with the ego of everything one has been taught. Acid however strips the ego of learnt knowledge and leaves me with instinctual understandings of the world. That is just my perspective, I know everyone reacts differently to drugs and perhaps one day I can combine these two chemicals, but until then I can just philosophise about it.
I think over the time ketamine has eliminated my fear of death, to the point where to die during this moment would not bother me

Don’t think I want to go this high for a while, perhaps just recreational doses for me, a bit of relaxation, disorientation and time dilation, but I never regret anything.
No time is wasted if its appreciated.

Just a couple of questions, are these effects normal? I don’t think a racing heart is something I should be experiencing but perhaps it was the piracetam the day before that kept me mobile, anyway I think I got a taste of the k-hole and I’m happy for that.
Also like to mention I get strong stimulation from higher doses of ketamine without piracetam. :/
 
im no expert .. but your racing heart to me sounds like anxiety .. you yourself mentioned becoming a little paranoid looking at yourself in the mirror .. nice report anyhow :)
 
Cru54d3r: The thing that usually makes me paranoid is the racing heart, not the other way around.. so i'm not sure.

and Mean Girl, I usually take 800mg (1600mg when I really need to focus) a day around assessment and exam period to focus a little better. Also sometimes when i'm in the mood with other psychadelics, can help promote some very blissful trips

I have had ketamine before without taking piracetam for 1 week prior and still got really hot while on it and a racing heart beat, the higher I got. :\

Perhaps piracetams effects on ketamine last a fair while longer.

Either way I have a history of dissociatives; nangs, DXM, and ether, being pleasurable and making me dysphoric in higher doses. They tend to shove in my face everything that is crap about my life, eg the complete opposite to opiates. Good for self analysing however.
A little disorientation is a lot of fun, but I’ll leave the high doses when I need a good kick in the face about by life situation.

I don’t regret it and perhaps one day when I’m more strong minded I can combine a k-hole with some LSD or another psychadelic.
 
Baker said:
Cru54d3r: The thing that usually makes me paranoid is the racing heart, not the other way around.. so i'm not sure.
can you be certain though that your increased heart rate aint a direct result of the drug consumption and that any further increase is purely due to your own anxiety about it ?
 
no im not certain, in fact what I meant is that the increased heart rate did promote a bit of anxiety obviously increasing the heart rate.
Its usually that I feel way to hot that I feel the need to move, however when I am outside cooling down I don't tend to notice my excessive heart rate nearly as much and come down, but it still feels like there is a lot of pressure on my body, like when you run to hard on a stimulant when you shouldn't be and feel like throwing up.
The problem is I didn't run to hard my heart just beats way to fast in my opinion and I start burning up like I have an extreme fever, except my perception of hot and cold do get rather distorted and during the peak the fact that my whole body has gone bright red in the freezing cold doesn't bother me as much.

Maybe im just being melodramatic, but I find ketamine hard to work with.. does anyone else? I want to hear about someone who doesn't rant and rave about it being the best drug, so I know i'm not the only one.
Otherwise I'll be tempted to find a nirvana, which i'd probably prefer through LSD or DMT.
 
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