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Kava Kava or Kratom?

rickolasnice

rickolasnice

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Which is best and why?

(Mods.. i have a feeling this is in the wrong place.. move as you see fit.. thanks)
 
I think kratom is best for recreation if you like other opioids, but if you find benzodiazepines recreational then kava would work too.
 
Kratom is a step up from tramadol, hydrocodone, or oxycodone for me. Nice analgesia, euphoria that rivals low dose morphine/heroin.

Kava kava, I've never managed to get any effects from. I've tried fresh ground root made into milk tea, I've had extract capsules, etc. At best it's an alcohol or benzo-like CNS depressant when it works for people.
 
Kava kava takes time to build up in your body. I usually have to drink it for three or four days before I really get the effects. I have had some great fun with kava and it is definitely powerful. Its more relaxing than benzos in my opinion once you let it build up. If your stressed or are looking for sleep then kava kava. It synergizes perfectly with weed and got me nice and fucked up last 4\20. Great high and long lasting.

Kratom is a decent opiate but not as powerful as oxycodone. It's a pretty decent high but it has a ceiling and tolerance builds very quickly. An advantage over kava is that you feel the effects without having to build it up in your system. A disadvantage is that it doesn't quite synergize as well as kava. Kratom has more side effects as well including a hangover with high doses. Its also unpredictable.
 
What side effects do you get from kratom?

I find kratom much more euphoric than oxycodone.
 
^Yes, I don't often go over 6-7 grams because of the sick feeling it tends to induce beyond that point.
 
^ no, but often whatever's being sold in headshops won't approach the quality of what you can get online.
 
Kratom would be far more euphoric, kava more sedating, and together they are great.

For anyone not getting effects from kava, chew the root, forget the teas, pills, extracts, etc. just buy ground/chopped root, stick it between cheek and gum, and chew, 2-5 grams for about 15 mins then you can spit it out,,using this method will produce nice relaxation. saliva seems to have a dramatic effect on kavalactones. hence the traditional method of use to have the virgins in the tribe chew the kava and spit it into a bowl to later be consumed.
 
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kava and kratom complement each other extremely well. i almost always do them together.
 
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