K-Related - DO YOURSELF A FAVOR! Watch Final Fantasy....

[Bunkka]

..... while tripping on K.

I was so in that movie tonight!

It was not only 3D and vividly realistic... I was IN the movie!

 

[killarava2day]

LMAO! I love watching wak shit on tele when I'm K'd, it's the shit. Futurama is very cool, but the other day I discovered Lexx, an extremely warped B grade sci-fi series. It's absolutely gold, I've never seen anything as freaky as that when I'm K'd, it was brilliant! Highly recommended...

 

[faris]

i don't get it...has this thread been moved from somewhere? it doesn't appear to violate any guidelines in THIS forum...

 

[Negro-kitty]

When I do ketamine, there is no way I could be watching a movie. I'm holed off in k-land and I'm lucky if I can see ANYTHING.

 

[Icey]

I had the same exact experience while watching Donnie Darko...its was pretty strange. All the colors from the movie seemed to have move around me and i was in the setting somehow. it was a pretty ridiculous experience.

 

[vegan]

I'm holed off in k-land and I'm lucky if I can see ANYTHING

or even remember what a movie is

 

[rm-rf]

I was IN the movie!

if you could see the television, you diddnt do nearly enough K!!


if you could relate to anything resembling the physical universe, you diddnt do enough k! lol

 

[Orpheus420]

"if you could relate to anything resembling the physical universe, you diddnt do enough k! lol"

LOL Wood, this quote should be on erowid or in a movie or something

 

[killarava2day]

Oh I dunno... I snort half a gram at a time, cooked straight from the vial, I got a pretty high tolerance. Unless I start jamming it (which I won't cos needles a fucking idiotic IMO) then it's gonna be to damned expensive experience. What do you guys class as 'enough'?

 

[Ayrios]

A sterile solution in your muscle is idiotic but half a gram of nasty powder that burns through your nasal membranes is quite intelligent.

 

[killarava2day]

I never said snorting is intelligent but I stand by the fact that needles are damned idiotic. Let's face it, millions of years of evolution has prepared our bodies to absorb a certain ammount poison through our mucous membranes and stomach. We are designed to cope with that, it's natural. Sticking something directly into your muscle or blood stream, that ain't natural, the body isn't designed to cope with that. Even the medical profession recognises this, that's why the new generation of administration routes will be inhlers and the like. Call me a prude or a square if you will but at least I'm not running the sort of risks your average needle user does, I would like to live a long, fruitful and healthy life thank you very much. Learning how to use a needle would not be conducive to that IMO, it would leave me vulnerable to experimenting with other more detrimental substances than I would otherwise use.

 

[Bunkka]

if you could see the television, you diddnt do nearly enough K!!


if you could relate to anything resembling the physical universe, you diddnt do enough k! lol

LOL.. i can appreciate the humor, believe me....

BUT, when it gets to the point I'm on the verge of unconsciousness that's when it's not as fun for me, personally.

I've been pretty K'ed out and have no problem w/ supply. It's just my preferance to keep it on that "feeling whacky" level than putting it over the edge into the zombie-like state.

 

[Orpheus420]

"What do you guys class as 'enough'?"

You do have a point.. I love to experience every stage of k, from a few bumps sometimes, to enough to hole on at other points.."Enough" changes from person to person, and depends on the experience you want..I just support what Wood says in the fashion that this guy should experience the full effects of k if and at all possible..The experience from that is something that almost any k user would appreciate, and he indeed might like more than the previous stages he's reached

 

[Negro-kitty]

Ketamine is MEANT to be intramuscularly injected and IVed. That is how it is administered in hospitals. As a sterile solution with sterile needles IMed, ketamine is EXTREMELY safe and the medically preferred route of administration. Thus, I prefer to IM over snort (in addition to the fact that IMing ketamine is easily 30x better than snorting it in numerous ways).

 

[rm-rf]

^^^

im not gonna argue, but since im a strong advocate of the harm reduction aspect of this message board...

(which I won't cos needles a fucking idiotic IMO)

in reference to administering ketamine, that state ment is pretty idiotic. im not making a personal attack on anyone, but alot of people need to get over the "needle-phobia" and realize that it is the right way to do some drugs.

A sterile solution in your muscle is idiotic but half a gram of nasty powder that burns through your nasal membranes is quite intelligent.

thats what im tryin to say...

I never said snorting is intelligent but I stand by the fact that needles are damned idiotic. Let's face it, millions of years of evolution has prepared our bodies to absorb a certain ammount poison through our mucous membranes and stomach. We are designed to cope with that, it's natural. Sticking something directly into your muscle or blood stream, that ain't natural, the body isn't designed to cope with that. Even the medical profession recognises this, that's why the new generation of administration routes will be inhlers and the like. Call me a prude or a square if you will but at least I'm not running the sort of risks your average needle user does, I would like to live a long, fruitful and healthy life thank you very much. Learning how to use a needle would not be conducive to that IMO, it would leave me vulnerable to experimenting with other more detrimental substances than I would otherwise use.

if someone doesnt wish to use drugs via IM or IV administration, so be it. do what you will with your body!! however, you should not condemn a method of administration because you dont like it. If you use your brain, needles are very safe and very clean. When insufflating a drug, you are putting not only foreign mind altering chemicals up your nose (THAT YOUR SINUSES ARE *NOT* DESIGNED TO ABSORB), you are putting whatever crap (dust, dirt, bacteria, microscopic molds, whatever) is on the table/razor/mirror/key/surface up your nose. your body has to process that shit and get it out, same as the drug (in this case, ketamine). not only is ketamine harmful to your sinus membranes (ya know, that BURNING sensation?), but its harmful to your esophagus and stomach lining. your body then has to repair that damage. one time use is, of course, minimal, however constant insufflation of drugs (or any drug that is ingested in the manner not ment to be ingested, for that matter) will cause harm to your body, thus speeding up your body's state of entrophy, thus reducing the "long and fruitfull life" somewhat. It is alot easier for your body to heal the puncture of the needle (assuming you did it right) than when a chemical enters the nostrils. And god man, dont even tell people that snorting half a fucking gram of ketamine is even remotely more "healthy" than IMing a proper amount for recreational dose.

that and the whole "natural" vs "unnatural" argument really pisses me off cuz it sounds like mindless hippy crap retort and i really fuckin hate hippies!!!!

Needles are clean and safe. U can buy tons of syringes at various places, and theyre not expensive. Just dont SHARE THEM with people, and learn to inject yourself CORRECTLY. Dont inject yourself with less-than-laboratory grade chemicals. If you think IMing K will lead you to injecting other drugs, that has nothing to do with needles, that is a scenario entirely within yourself. Do you think that thousands of medical physicians with multiple PhD's would suggest to the general populus a method of administration that wasnt the cleanest and safest and most sensible method possible?

Snorting K makes about as much sense as plugging crack. Im not judging anyone, I happen to be a big fan of snorting K myself, but I am fully aware of how ridiculous it is.

killa, you mentioned about your tolerance, and how its not possible for you to achieve levels of "k headspace" I was joking about. IMing would assure you to get to that level, even if your tolerance to insufflation is that high.

BUT, when it gets to the point I'm on the verge of unconsciousness that's when it's not as fun for me, personally.

completely understandable. I share a similar opinion about other drugs.

 

[Bunkka]

I'm glad I saw the comments regarding Killa's statements.

Yeah... over the past 150 (if that) years of IM, IV and Sub-Q injections, we've learned that we've "evolved" (not getting into this...) into anti-injection life forms.

These responses are on target. Yep.. in many, many cases pins are the way to go.

Strictly regarding K... I've IM'ed a few times when I was bored. I've got enough access to it that I don't look for the "biggest get me tore up" method available (and K is not even my "trip of choice"). If it were, I just may go the body shot route.

Snorting is just the convenient way to go, imo, for most purposes.

Now... pills are another story. I go for the "bang for the buck" on those when I have them and therefore my intake method is "bootybumpin'.

To each, their own.

 

[killarava2day]

Ok, I'll retract my description of injecting as 'idiotic'. I don't want to be judgemental, as Bunkka says, each to their own. I'll just say that injections go against every moral fibre in my body, I even object to being injected by a doctor. I have seen so many of my friends lives destroyed by the use of syringes, while admitedly it wasn't K that ruined them I have witnessed some pretty major K addictions and I shudder to think what those people would be like if they were jamming it. Anyway, I was retorting to your insinuation that I somehow wasn't doing enough, as if you're somehow better because you can get more wasted than me. Well whoopdee-fucking-do, do you want a medal? If I have to do something that I utterly object to in order to obtain a certain state of mind then I would prefer to do without. If you're really so concerned about harm-minimisation why are you encouraging people to get higher than they currently are? If someone is happy doing what they are doing why the fuck would you tell them they're not doing enough? It's that bullshit machismo mentality that causes people to fuck up on drugs.

 

[pinesol]

Ok, I'll retract my description of injecting as 'idiotic'. I don't want to be judgemental, as Bunkka says, each to their own. I'll just say that injections go against every moral fibre in my body, I even object to being injected by a doctor. I have seen so many of my friends lives destroyed by the use of syringes, while admitedly it wasn't K that ruined them I have witnessed some pretty major K addictions and I shudder to think what those people would be like if they were jamming it. Anyway, I was retorting to your insinuation that I somehow wasn't doing enough, as if you're somehow better because you can get more wasted than me. Well whoopdee-fucking-do, do you want a medal? If I have to do something that I utterly object to in order to obtain a certain state of mind then I would prefer to do without. If you're really so concerned about harm-minimisation why are you encouraging people to get higher than they currently are? If someone is happy doing what they are doing why the fuck would you tell them they're not doing enough? It's that bullshit machismo mentality that causes people to fuck up on drugs.

wow you totally read that out of context, first you complain that you can't khole, then someone tells you why and you say they're acting macho...

 

[killarava2day]

Pinesol- Read the thread properly, mate. I stated the fact that I need to have a large ammount after being told that I don't do enough, I wasn't 'complaining' I was merely pointing out that perhaps people shouldn't make assumptions about the validity of others experiences. It was that attitude that got my back up in the first place and that is why I used (albeit needlessly) inflammatory language like 'idiotic' in reference to injecting K.

 

[brazilian vibe]

^^^^^^^ ^ It has become so pointless now Im preparing a good joint for all of us chill with and think about our little pissed off friend and lets just be nice to him because he seems to get it all as personal attacks and need lots of love now . Please, hug 'im ! We're here to help you man , we all love you and respect you !

hehehehe couldnt resist :D