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Oral administration of JWH-250 (2nd Time)
Background
I previously tried taking JWH-250 in two dosages, 6mg and 4mg, 1.5 hours apart. I had never taken any JWH compounds previously. I experienced some minor effects but the experience never passed a Shulgin Rating of +. Since then I have tried it by vaporizing it off of aluminum foil and have decided to try taking it orally again at a high dosage.
Logic Behind Dosage
My previous experiment with oral administration of JWH-250 utilized two dosages, 6mg and 4mg, taken 1.5 hours apart. The second dosage was taken with some food which may have diminished its effects, but some minor effects were still noted. Therefore I decided to try increasing the dosage to 10mg.
Strategy
The plan was to take one 10mg dose. Based on my previous experience, this dosage should give decent effects so a second dosage would not be necessary at this time.
Preparation
To prepare the doses, the intent was to measure out one 10mg dose using a ProScale Precision-10 scale (resolution: 1mg). To measure the dose as accurately as possible, first an empty Carlson #2 gelatin capsule was placed on the scale. Small amounts of JWH-250 were added to the capsule until the weight went up by 10mg. No other fillers would be added to avoid the possibility of something inhibiting or potentiating the effects. The actual dose measured out was 13mg (based on five weight measurements that were averaged).
Setting
I was in a relaxed setting with no major stress. Last meal was a Chinese food at approximately 1:00pm to 1:30pm. I’m a little nervous as too what the effects will be, since it is slightly more then double the dosage of my first try. However I usually get a little nervous before taking a RC that I have little experience with, however based on my experience when I vaporized it, I expect it to be a pleasant experience.
Stats
196lbs Male (My previous report indicated I was a 150lbs male. This was a typo.)
No health problems I am aware of.
Report (T00:00 = 6:45pm EDT)
T00:00 – 13mg dose taken with some Pepsi.
T+00:16 – Possible onset noticed. My eyes feel heavier and tactile sensations are slightly altered, but it may simply be my expectation. If this is the onset I suspect it hit sooner because my last mean was approximately 5h 15m before T00:00 unlike the first experiment where my last meal was only 1h 40m before T00:00. Also I might be noticing the effects earlier because of the first experiment plus my one experience vaporizing it. (Shulgin Rating: +/-)
T+00:36 – I’m definitely feeling effects of the JWH. My eyes feel heavy, very similar to the feeling I get on marijuana. My thoughts are a little cloudier then when I’m at baseline, but not nearly as bad when smoking marijuana. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+00:54 – I’ve noticed that the effects are definitely stronger if I’m not moving around too much. The stiller I am, the stronger the feeling is. I am also noticing a slight pressure in my head. I believe 13mg is still below the dosage required for a Shulgin Rating of ++. I may try administering another dose of approximately 5mg to see if I can get to that level. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+01:05 – Decided to take an additional 7mg. This was weight out the same way as the initial dosage. The average of the five measurements was 0.0066g. I took this dosage the same way as the first; with just Pepsi, no food. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+01:13 – While I was outside smoking a cigarette I noticed that depth perception is being slightly affected; the house across the street appeared farther away then if should have. During the first trial with taking JWH-250 I did not go outside. I think that by going outside where there were more stimuli (kids playing, cars driving by, etc.) I noticed the effects more. Body temperature seems to be slightly elevated as I am feeling warmer even though it is the evening and it is getting cooler outside. (Shulgin Rating: ++)
T+01:39 –My eyes are slightly less heavy, still have slight pressure in my head, but overall the mental and physical effects appear to be subsiding. I have also noticed that my eyes are somewhat blood shot.
T+02:05 – My eyes are much less heavy, still have slight pressure in my head, and am sweating quite a bit. It’s a much similar effect to the come down of marijuana, at least for me. I don’t expect there to be much more left.
Conclusion
During my last experiment I estimated that the dosage needed to get the full effects of JWH-250 to be in the range of 10-12mg. However, based on this additional testing I think this number needs to be revised upwards.
Although I did reach a Shulgin Rating of ++ at T+01:13, it was barely a ++. It seems now that to get full effects, similar to vaporization, a dose of 18-20mg would be needed. However, I would not recommend taking this high of a dose initially by anyone who is not experienced with RCs because of the unpredictability that it may expose. A side effect I noticed based on these two experiences is that JWH-250 taken orally seems to cause itchiness in the head, neck, should, and upper back areas. Also, regardless of the dosage, it seems that the length of effects for JWH-250 is in the range of 2 – 2.5 hours.
It also appears that taking a second dosage, while still under the influence of a first dose, does almost nothing. Perhaps I am waiting to long before doses, or maybe it is because of something else that I’m not aware of. I know I experience the same thing with mushrooms (a second dose does nothing positive for me, it only increases the negative side effects).
I think that a final experiment with JWH-250 by taking a single dose of 20mg is warranted. I still have hope for the potential of taking JWH-250 orally.
Background
I previously tried taking JWH-250 in two dosages, 6mg and 4mg, 1.5 hours apart. I had never taken any JWH compounds previously. I experienced some minor effects but the experience never passed a Shulgin Rating of +. Since then I have tried it by vaporizing it off of aluminum foil and have decided to try taking it orally again at a high dosage.
Logic Behind Dosage
My previous experiment with oral administration of JWH-250 utilized two dosages, 6mg and 4mg, taken 1.5 hours apart. The second dosage was taken with some food which may have diminished its effects, but some minor effects were still noted. Therefore I decided to try increasing the dosage to 10mg.
Strategy
The plan was to take one 10mg dose. Based on my previous experience, this dosage should give decent effects so a second dosage would not be necessary at this time.
Preparation
To prepare the doses, the intent was to measure out one 10mg dose using a ProScale Precision-10 scale (resolution: 1mg). To measure the dose as accurately as possible, first an empty Carlson #2 gelatin capsule was placed on the scale. Small amounts of JWH-250 were added to the capsule until the weight went up by 10mg. No other fillers would be added to avoid the possibility of something inhibiting or potentiating the effects. The actual dose measured out was 13mg (based on five weight measurements that were averaged).
Setting
I was in a relaxed setting with no major stress. Last meal was a Chinese food at approximately 1:00pm to 1:30pm. I’m a little nervous as too what the effects will be, since it is slightly more then double the dosage of my first try. However I usually get a little nervous before taking a RC that I have little experience with, however based on my experience when I vaporized it, I expect it to be a pleasant experience.
Stats
196lbs Male (My previous report indicated I was a 150lbs male. This was a typo.)
No health problems I am aware of.
Report (T00:00 = 6:45pm EDT)
T00:00 – 13mg dose taken with some Pepsi.
T+00:16 – Possible onset noticed. My eyes feel heavier and tactile sensations are slightly altered, but it may simply be my expectation. If this is the onset I suspect it hit sooner because my last mean was approximately 5h 15m before T00:00 unlike the first experiment where my last meal was only 1h 40m before T00:00. Also I might be noticing the effects earlier because of the first experiment plus my one experience vaporizing it. (Shulgin Rating: +/-)
T+00:36 – I’m definitely feeling effects of the JWH. My eyes feel heavy, very similar to the feeling I get on marijuana. My thoughts are a little cloudier then when I’m at baseline, but not nearly as bad when smoking marijuana. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+00:54 – I’ve noticed that the effects are definitely stronger if I’m not moving around too much. The stiller I am, the stronger the feeling is. I am also noticing a slight pressure in my head. I believe 13mg is still below the dosage required for a Shulgin Rating of ++. I may try administering another dose of approximately 5mg to see if I can get to that level. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+01:05 – Decided to take an additional 7mg. This was weight out the same way as the initial dosage. The average of the five measurements was 0.0066g. I took this dosage the same way as the first; with just Pepsi, no food. (Shulgin Rating: +/++)
T+01:13 – While I was outside smoking a cigarette I noticed that depth perception is being slightly affected; the house across the street appeared farther away then if should have. During the first trial with taking JWH-250 I did not go outside. I think that by going outside where there were more stimuli (kids playing, cars driving by, etc.) I noticed the effects more. Body temperature seems to be slightly elevated as I am feeling warmer even though it is the evening and it is getting cooler outside. (Shulgin Rating: ++)
T+01:39 –My eyes are slightly less heavy, still have slight pressure in my head, but overall the mental and physical effects appear to be subsiding. I have also noticed that my eyes are somewhat blood shot.
T+02:05 – My eyes are much less heavy, still have slight pressure in my head, and am sweating quite a bit. It’s a much similar effect to the come down of marijuana, at least for me. I don’t expect there to be much more left.
Conclusion
During my last experiment I estimated that the dosage needed to get the full effects of JWH-250 to be in the range of 10-12mg. However, based on this additional testing I think this number needs to be revised upwards.
Although I did reach a Shulgin Rating of ++ at T+01:13, it was barely a ++. It seems now that to get full effects, similar to vaporization, a dose of 18-20mg would be needed. However, I would not recommend taking this high of a dose initially by anyone who is not experienced with RCs because of the unpredictability that it may expose. A side effect I noticed based on these two experiences is that JWH-250 taken orally seems to cause itchiness in the head, neck, should, and upper back areas. Also, regardless of the dosage, it seems that the length of effects for JWH-250 is in the range of 2 – 2.5 hours.
It also appears that taking a second dosage, while still under the influence of a first dose, does almost nothing. Perhaps I am waiting to long before doses, or maybe it is because of something else that I’m not aware of. I know I experience the same thing with mushrooms (a second dose does nothing positive for me, it only increases the negative side effects).
I think that a final experiment with JWH-250 by taking a single dose of 20mg is warranted. I still have hope for the potential of taking JWH-250 orally.
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