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Jwh-018 Nightmare, 6 Years Later...

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kshay32

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6 years ago when I was 17 I overdosed on JWH-018. All it took was a little tiny bit on the end of a cigarette and within about 3 minutes I blacked out and went straight into a full blown seizure. I'm 23 now and since that very day my life has been flipped upside down, inside out, and turned into a world of hell. I should've been smarter, I didn't even know what I was smoking. So my stupidity resulted in this. I've been to countless doctors and specialists. I've had my hearing, sight, heart, and brain checked. I've been tested for diabetes, thyroid problems, bad blood pressure. You name it, I've been checked for it. All came back perfectly normal. But the problem I'm having is this, something very opposite of normal is going on. The "symptoms" and feelings I experience from the second I wake up to the second I fall asleep are far from normal. They're horrifying, terrible, and nothing short of a living fucking nightmare. My head feels like a giant balloon, everything is constantly spinning, I'm always dizzy, there's ringing in my ears, my heart races and beats very heavy, I have very short breathes, tunnel vision, dis attachment from life, nothing feels real, severe anxiety which has resulted in chronic depression, pins and needles in my fingers and toes, and aches in my body. I lose sleep, I'm exhausted, it's hard to drive, it's even harder to be in public, and just to try and function in the world is a huge fight for me everyday.

6 years later and it's started to really get bad. I feel like body is slowly shutting down. It feels like my body is tired of fighting so hard for so long so I'm slowly being killed off in a sense. I have no drive or motivation to do anything. And the more I fight the more depressed I feel and the more I feel I'm starting to crack. I feel like I'm headed straight for a mental institution.

If you have any information on someone who has been through this please help me understand or something.
 
Positive. Unless it's something numerous doctors have overlooked. I've seen people say this can cause PTSD but I'm not sure.
 
hmmm...i had to ask. i really dont know then. ive smoked a lot of the stuff and never had a problem with it. best of luck.
 
We can't know for sure that you took JWH-018, it certainly didn't have that effect on me, this isnt a case of OD, but I'm not splitting hairs your ordeal sounds horrendous none the less.

You're never going to be sure exactly what you took and how it played a part in the situation you find yourself today, dwelling on it isnt going to help. You can only deal with the here and now and you can't untake the drugs

Given you've had all the physical checks done what you describe sounds like severe anxiety and maybe depression as well, from the symptoms you describe.

What treatments have you tried so far and are you on any medication or receiving any counselling ATM ?
 
Wow, I feel lucky now. I overdosed on JWH-108 as well, a few years back... but I took a HUGE amount. My friend and I were drinking and I had gotten really wasted... I decided we should smoke some so I grabbed my bong and drunkenly poured out a bunch on there, thinking it was a regular dose... in retrospect I can see it in my mind, I covered the entire bowl surface with a layer of JWH, the n ext morning over 200mg was missing. I smoked it straight to my dome in one huge hit. Next thing I know I am coming to and my friend is staring at me expectantly. I was absolutely frozen, I could not speak, I could not move my body, I could only move my eyes and breathe. My thoughts couldn't complete, I was basically a zombie and the most horrendous feeling was coursing through my body. After about 10 minutes my friend started asking me if I was alright, and I couldn't respond. 10 more minutes and he started getting scared and telling me to respond because he was freaked out. He was waving his hands in front of my eyes... I saw it all and was trying to respond but it was impossible. Finally he said "dude, if you don't respond I'm calling an ambulance", and I managed to croak out "...no...", so fortunately he didn't. I knew I was going to be okay but it was pretty terrifying and extremely unpleasant. A bit after this I still couldn't move or speak but I was moving my mouth so he dragged me over to the guest bed and I fell asleep within 5 minutes. I woke up a few hours later in the morning and I felt fine, but a little lightheaded. I never had any lasting negative effects from it, once it wore off I was fine. Hearing stories like this makes me feel quite fortunate.

Sorry you're dealing with this. <3
 
^^ I found it much the same but never took that much in one go 8o, it was a little panicky but of a sort that I knew would pass, but I had a decent tolerance to cannabis at the time.

I've spoken to people who have tried some of the newer, lesser know 'synthetic cannabinoids' and, in some cases they have reported less than favourable results, I didn't dabble further concluding the 'natural product' was less risky...IMHO

I would advice real caution around these chemicals in the UK some have been made illegal some still remain the right side of current legislation, I don't know the situation in the US or elsewhere. This has led to vendors selling stuff off at cut prices and possibly selling something under the wrong chemical name.

I also noted that it left quite a significant residue in vaporiser which you need to remember when using the vaporiser again.
 
Your body is shutting down when your liver fails and kidneys at the same time,so dont freak out,with thoughts like these youll send your self deeper in depression. I know it sucks,but you gotta stay strong,some thoughts just are as helpful as parasites..Ive OD on legal jwh too,I puked my guts out,had vision problems and prayed to not go insane ,but it was for few hours..well now its illegal in my country ,but black market is even worse,god knows what they put in that synthetic weed,Ive heard about teens that are now in coma,insane,brain,liver,lung,throat some serious organic damage..
<<The "symptoms" and feelings I experience from the second I wake up to the second I fall asleep are far from normal. They're horrifying, terrible, and nothing short of a living fucking nightmare. My head feels like a giant balloon, everything is constantly spinning, I'm always dizzy, there's ringing in my ears, my heart races and beats very heavy, I have very short breathes, tunnel vision, dis attachment from life, nothing feels real, severe anxiety which has resulted in chronic depression, pins and needles in my fingers and toes, and aches in my body>>
The symptoms you describe could be ALL linked to extreme case of anxiety,I got them too(ringing,spinning,heart,short breath and derealization),but not constantly ,just sometimes(panic attacks) that could result in body ache and bad blood circulation. In the worst case you could have neurological problems,some organic damage,if thats the case it could be spotted on MRI is this how you got your brain checked? If MRI showed normal results,that good news for you,you have no organic damage(usually theres no recovery from that). Bad news for you are tho,that neurology and science about our grey matter is pretty a grey area in medicine ,its a complex mechanism. Did you try xanax,some sedatives?
 
It was jwh. I remember being told "you know that legal spice shit? Well I got the pure form of the powder that goes onto it." So that's what I've based my research on. Regardless, whatever it was was dangerous nonetheless. My buddy took like 9 hitters so I was like "eh, I'll try a half of one." That's all it took too. And I just saw my first counselor yesterday. I've tried Zoloft and that was terrible so I immidiately came off of it. I've done some research on zenerx or something like that. Over the count anxiety meds, people say they're pretty successful with no side effects. So I'm thinking about trying that. At this point I'm up for anything.
 
^^ You still have no real evidence of what it actually was, there are many other similar chemical available but like I said does it really matter now ?

I'm not surprised a doctor has prescribed Zoloft (Sertraline), if you are going to explore that avenue you need to do so methodically and with the help and support of your doctor. ADs are difficult to prescribe as the results vary so much from one person to another, I could get on with Sertraline or any other SSRI but know others that found them OK.

I'd be wary of mixing treatments, if you're taking something from your doctor don't start throwing in some OTC stuff on top, at best it won't indicate to you what is helping and at worst you could induce dangerous interactions.
 
I did a trial with Zoloft about 2 years ago. I haven't tried any meds since then because I'm one of the people who feels like I'm submitting to pills because I can't beat it myself
 
I'm not an advocate of ADs although I have and do use them, they won;t resolve underlying anxieties or remove the effects of previous trauma but they may, in some people relieve the symptoms enough to help you help yourself.

There is no shame in seeking help chemical or otherwise for mental or physical health issues, don't let yourself be stigamtised by these problems they are far from uncommon.
 
Zoloft isnt objective drug,it could worsen anxiety,as it boosts serotonin in brain. You should try xanax,for maybe once ,see what it does to your heart and vision and ears. I suggest it more of as experiment to see what role anxiety plays in your symptoms,not because you cannot do without them,it is really bad to get hooked on benzo such as xanax.
Also want to PM you,but bluelight got some crazy restrictions
 
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kshay32 said:
My head feels like a giant balloon, everything is constantly spinning, I'm always dizzy, there's ringing in my ears, my heart races and beats very heavy, I have very short breathes, tunnel vision, dis attachment from life, nothing feels real, severe anxiety which has resulted in chronic depression, pins and needles in my fingers and toes, and aches in my body. I lose sleep, I'm exhausted, it's hard to drive, it's even harder to be in public, and just to try and function in the world is a huge fight for me everyday.
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I would say its generalised anxiety, hyperventilation. All the symptoms match anxiety.

You should check your breathing, is it high up in your chest?

Try this: close your eyes, and relax your body, put your hands on your lap or knees. Breath in slowly for 2 or 3 seconds, then breathe out slowly for 3 to 5 seconds. Repeat this interval while only keeping focus on the breathing, deny any thought, whenever you find yourself thinking about anything, force yourself to focus on your breathing again.
Do this for 10 minutes and, and check if you start to calm down (you will).

Then try to notice what your body tells you, how you are breathing, how you feel, what hurts and what not. Keep on breathing slowly with the same intervalt and do not judge or analise any thought or feeling, just let it come and go.
 
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It seems like a good advice.
I was wondering why this overdose intake done 6 years ago, as you mention, could still be trigger emotions and feelings connected to your current feelings in such an intense way (?)
You´ve said all exams were made, but have you gone to a psychologist? I believe in therapy, in some cases even more than doctors and exams.
It´s a process and it can only get better.
Hope you get better!
 
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pentouch said:
Zoloft isnt objective drug,it could worsen anxiety,as it boosts serotonin in brain. You should try xanax,for maybe once ,see what it does to your heart and vision and ears. I suggest it more of as experiment to see what role anxiety plays in your symptoms,not because you cannot do without them,it is really bad to get hooked on benzo such as xanax.
Also want to PM you,but bluelight got some crazy restrictions
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Personally I'd avoid benzos like the plague, but then I've been in a mess with them more than once. They may seem like an answer but IMHO are barely any better than throwing whiskey down your neck :\

PM restriction are in place for Greenlighters, after 50 posts you become a Bluelighter and they are lifted :)
 
Thanks for all the advice guys. It really lifted my spirits about the emotion side of this. It's hard for me to talk about but it's nice to see it works out when I do. I'll practice the breathing. And I think I'm going to stay away from the benzos. I've lost a lot of friends to death because of addictions to pills and hard drugs. So since that day of the overdose I vowed to never touch drugs in anyway. I had surgery in my mouth and refused the pain medication because I'm so against it, even though it helps when you're reaponsible. But I'm pretty sure that zenerx stuff isn't a benzo. Cause I don't think they'd sell a benzo over the counter. If anyone on here is curious research it, because I'm highly curious as to its results. If something could just help me become even a tiny bit more clear headed I know that Id get that motivation back to beat this in the long run. But it has to be something non addictive. And I have to believe that I'm not submitting to something, which is the biggest thing.
 
Well, at first glance it looks like zenerx is an otc male enhancement product. Now I didn't read the information, just the big print. Is there some side effect this product has that would make you think it would be of benefit for the symptoms you are experiencing? Or is this the wrong product entirely?

Btw, I am sorry to hear that you are having these problems. I think that some of the new RC's, to include the synthetic cannabinoid's, are problematic and will continue to create troubles down the road for some of the people who are using them. I hope all the best for you kshay32 and that you discover the cause of your problems, and in doing so, the solution to your problems.
 
Haha I knew I was spelling it wrong. It's ZenRx. But thank you. I appreciate that very much.
 
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