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JWH-015 and JWH-018 legal status

I tried JWH-200 and found it to have a particularly fast onset compared to JWH-018 but otherwise the effects were very similar, a subtly different feeling but hard to describe how exactly.

Bioassays for JWH-073 have been reported on here before, seems to be milder than the 018 but also not quite so anxiogenic.
 
Name: N-alkyl || CB1 Ki (nM) +/- x || CB2 Ki (nM) +/- x || CB1:CB2 Ratio

JWH-018 : N-pentyl || CB1 Ki: 9.00 +/- 2.94 || CB2 Ki: 2.94 +/- 2.65 || 3.06
JWH-019 : N-hexyl || CB1 Ki: 9.80 +/- 2.00 || CB2 Ki: 5.55 +/- 2.00 || 1.77
JWH-020 : N-heptyl || CB1 Ki: 128 +/- 17.0 || CB2 Ki: 205 +/- 20.0 || 0.62

The N-hexyl is weaker than the N-pentyl. The N-heptyl is much weaker

Anybody have the JWH desgnation of the 1-butyl compound. For that matter, could someone with access to that paper do a full list of JWH designation and it's chemical structure (2 gold starts to anybody that does!)
 
N-butyl-3-(1-naphthoyl)-indole is JWH-073.

About that overview I sent you a PM.

PEACE! Murphy
 
FnB--

how many people do you know tasted the N-butyl that you arrived at your conclusion on effect?

did you assay RoA via oral and smoked?...and at what doses?

TIA!!!
 
Requested by FnB: An overview about all compounds that received a JWH-designation until date, including the structures and references:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/cdd1e7/n/JWH-series_-_structure_OVERVIEW_Ver2_pdf

I couldn't find a structure for every JWH-number. Anybody who can fill one of the gaps, please PM me!

Peace! Murphy

Just to add... i'm sure most of this is a repetition from your link, but maybe someone might find it useful:



Source:
Recent developments in cannabinoid ligands
Life Sciences
Volume 77, Issue 14, 19 August 2005, Pages 1767-1798
 
Update

- Switzerland banned Spice products "because of suspected content" last year.
- Austrian Heath Dept introduced 14 day emergency health ban this week urging lawmakers to make it permanent.
- Canada has said 018 and all like it are "already covered" in their Schedule 1 and 2 legislation.
- The MHRA UK has made it clear that all Spice/Incense products should be classified as either a food aor medicine.
- German Health Dept, where the analysis of Spice was done by THCPharma, has said it's not illegal but has not been tested and so people should be careful.
- No other "official" statements that I have heard of so far.
- As someone on another forum said "great,they mske this illegal and the only people that prosper are the drug dealers".
 
Canada has said 018 and all like it are "already covered" in their Schedule 1 and 2 legislation.

This is unlikely to actually fly in a court case with expert witness because the wording is simply too vague; exactly quoting it's words is "similar synthetic preparations [to cannabis]". What constitutes similar? What constitutes preparation (must it be smokable)? The wording is non-descript, although Canadian law tends to be plagued by such definitions. The person inquiring to Health Canada was attempting to sell it as a smoking blend, which was probably why they responded as such.

Cannabis is so cheap and prevalent in Canada I can't see why anyone would bother purchasing synthetics.

I would suspect there would be a lot of difficulty proving its illegality in the United States too. The parent compound will probably have to be banned explicitly and the rest blanketed under the analogue law.
 
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The consensus I have heard so far is that it probably wouldn't come in as a structural analogue but I had the "pleasure" of listening to a lawyer in the USA who knew zero about cannabinoids or chemistry, laugh and crow that if an association no matter how tenuous, could be drawn between it and cannabis he could virtually guarantee he could convince the average Judge it was a functional analogue and therefore illegal. So I guess in places that allow such things it (and everything else) is in trouble.
 
the really tricky part of the FAA that people seem to always forget is chemistry does not have to be any part of the equation as long as it has a CNS effect that is substantially similar to a schedule I/II. But THC is schedule III, so they would have to say its a functional analog of nabilone or somesuch.8)
 
the really tricky part of the FAA that people seem to always forget is chemistry does not have to be any part of the equation as long as it has a CNS effect that is substantially similar to a schedule I/II. But THC is schedule III, so they would have to say its a functional analog of nabilone or somesuch.8)

That's not true. Federal courts have consistently stated that both effect and structure must be substantially similar (I forget which case exactly, but I'm pretty certain that it was out of MN)

edit: and THC is only CIII when in marinol.
 
Does anyone know of a reported case of someon being arrested for importing a jwf chemical? What would be the likely action if a package with 1g of jwh was stopped by customs?
 
I am looking to purchase some JWH-018. can someone tell me how it comes, liquid, powder?
I see some very technical and complicated ways of using this stuff. Can it be just added to a herbal mixture and simply smoked? what would be the ideal dosage for lets say 1 gramm of a neutral herbal mixture?

Somehow don't think you'll apprecoate this, but no sourcing or anything to do with suppliers or it's slapped wrist time
 
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