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Conspiracies Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro’s son

deficiT said:
God, I'm so tired of the "if you don't like it, leave" argument.

But I guess that's what I get for being the one admitted socialist at all times.

Someone's gotta do it.
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I wouldn't say that to you and i don't agree with anybody saying that to you either

you have the right to your opinion - even if i don't agree with it - you presented your case for communism in a very polite way without getting upset like all the other commies here get with me :)

i would consider myself a staunch anti-communist - i wouldn't be able to grow pot and be my own boss under those conditions - i'd have to go to work everyday because that's what ive been told to do

im not good at following orders and im not good at following rules that are overly restrictive and i dont agree with....i'd be in jail for sure under any communist regime

we're supposed to tell governement what to do, not the other way around - that's my view anyway
 
i am thankful

i carry the torch for them and never forget about my ancestors from Italy and Greece - i think of them everyday and keep some of their traditions and im trying to pass them on....

i also have a collection of my great grandparents relics and oddities from other relatives
 
deficiT said:
Yeah, they only went from severely limited peasant economy to hyper industrialized mega world power in the course of a couple years.
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Only because they engaged in industrial espionage on a massive scale
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
I wouldn't say that to you and i don't agree with anybody saying that to you either

you have the right to your opinion - even if i don't agree with it - you presented your case for communism in a very polite way without getting upset like all the other commies here get with me :)

i would consider myself a staunch anti-communist - i wouldn't be able to grow pot and be my own boss under those conditions - i'd have to go to work everyday because that's what ive been told to do

im not good at following orders and im not good at following rules that are overly restrictive and i dont agree with....i'd be in jail for sure under any communist regime

we're supposed to tell governement what to do, not the other way around - that's my view anyway
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I mean, fair enough. I think that's where a fundamental misunderstanding of communism comes from, it's not about just the government having as much power as possible, and it's not about not being able to have freedom, etc.

I'm not really a supporter of many of the existing forms of communism that we've seen, while I will defend some of their advances in some capacity, I'm more of a Libertarian Socialist as opposed to a staunch Marxist. China, and the later iterations of the USSR, are more closely examples of state capitalism.

A lot of the dictatorial regimes, don't exactly act in the spirit of communism. They are not actually moving forward with any sort of plan to develop a classless, moneyless society it seems like.
 
I think a lot of what helped China ascend was the rest of the world buying Made in China products for decades. Think about the 80s and 90s in the US when a lot of things went from Made in USA to Made in China so we could combat rising manufacturing/labor costs while increasing corporate profits. Similar to what funded the rapid development of Dubai: The US buying foreign oil and exporting our dollars instead of increasing our domestic production. With China we went even further by moving the manufacturing facilities of US companies to mainland China, clothes, computer chips, most of our pharmaceutical ingredients, even construction supplies.
 
Electrum1 said:
I think a lot of what helped China ascend was the rest of the world buying Made in China products for decades. Think about the 80s and 90s in the US when a lot of things went from Made in USA to Made in China so we could combat rising manufacturing/labor costs while increasing corporate profits. Similar to what funded the rapid development of Dubai: The US buying foreign oil and exporting our dollars instead of increasing our domestic production. With China we went even further by moving the manufacturing facilities of US companies to mainland China, clothes, computer chips, most of our pharmaceutical ingredients, even construction supplies.
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Yeah, it's pretty fucked up honestly. The countries work together far more than nationalist politicians (includes democrats) would have you think.

Anything to save a couple bucks.
 
Eldritch Palmer said:
What I don't get is: who cares if he is Castro's son?
What would that imply, exactly?
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Yeah my thoughts exactly. It wouldn't prove anything if he was Castro's long-lost son. But the right is undoubtedly trying to use this as a smoking gun of "see?? the left is socialist/communist and Trudeau is in bed with evil". Even though if he is, all it means is his mom fucked Fidel Castro and got pregnant with him, and hid it from everyone. Meaning he has no actual connection to Castro besides genetics. Meaning it is a smoking gun only of his mom being quite willing to have unprotected sex and then lie about the aftermath.
 
yea you're both right - it doesn't matter

they would've voted for him and he'd be in office anyway, even if everybody knew he was Fidel's son

:rolleyes:
 
it's not like we're talking a distant cousin

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
 
cduggles said:
In what way do you find any of these countries comparable to China?
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they all had changes in their style of governing relatively close to around the same time, and those changes are mostly still in place today

so i think you can look at Japan as probably the best comparison to make because it's the closest in time and also somewhat opposite in direction of governing since the end of the war and they're both the same type today as they became since then
 
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