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Just stopped fentanyl, 100mcg/hr. Please help

Can someone please tell me how strong Fent is?
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Probably pretty easy to find...?...but it's about 100 times the strength of morphine oral if I remember correctly.

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in effect 100mcg/h of fent = 10mg/h of morphine
 
JkPoindexter how are you holding up? I felt great today when I woke up. Day 7 :) I know you're short on time and you don't have a lot to spare, but it gets better every day!! Take my word for it, if you have a couple days, just try a little bit of DXM. I hate encouraging other people to use drugs to get over other drugs but your situation calls for a bit of a different approach.

Remember, don't mix the DXM with the Roxi's. And I mean...honestly, if I were you. I would keep using until I had more time to really deal with acute opiate withdrawals. Please, someone intervene if I'm wrong. But if you're feeling like crap, you don't want to go to work. You don't want to do anything. Not that I WANT you to keep using fent, but until you can really get a few days off, it'll be really tough to get off of it.

100mcg = 10mg of Morphine? You should be able to sustain your withdrawals with the Roxi's. Just take a dose, wait an hour, and if you still feel like shit, take half a dose and proceed to do so. You don't want to be at 100% on the roxi's though, that will just set you back even more :/

I'm no doctor by any means, these are all assertions made by personal experience. If it makes you feel any better, we all love you. Keep your head up. If you can get through this, you can make it through anything!!
 
I'm still here, I'm still alive. Thank you for the support right now. I'm hurting pretty bad right now.
 
:/ You know what I tried yesterday? I said "fuck this", put on my jogging gear and ran like hell!! Kind of sucked 'cause it's like 0 degrees here and I've already got the chills to begin with; not to mention I smoke so I couldn't run very far. But shit, once I was done, I felt a million times better. It's hard to get yourself to get up and do stuff, but it helps, immensely. Take a bit of roxi, do stuff around the house (clean, wash clothes, whatever) and just occupy yourself. Movies, video games, music, writing, even venting here on bluelight. Just do stuff, don't sit around. The more you just sit around, the more that pain will manifest itself in your head, and you'll hurt a lot more.

I wish someone else would post here 'cause I'm not sure what you should do about the Fent problem.
But one more time; If you have time, try EITHER benzos OR the DXM. If you have work tomrrow...well, take the Roxi's until you feel better, but wait as long as you can before you take them (before work?) As for the Fentanyl...shit man. That's your drug of choice and that's what makes you feel 100%. If I were you, I would use until I actually had time to recover. You don't want to lose your job over something like this. Keep me posted, I want to know how you're holding up.
 
God bless the two of you and I'm so amazed that you went 7 days mindovermeth..... Can you score some weed? if 100mcgs is equivilant to 10mg of morphine, he should be able to get some relief with immodium or ambien and pot.... or benzo.... dam by brother.. stay strong and keep this up... so hard... sux beyond anything... just think only one more day..... take a bath... jump in a hot shower... sit there and let it just rain on you... anything ....
 
Dude, I wish I could get some weed. I'm so used to get some "good good" where I'm from :) and just smoking myself retarded when I'm like this. But unfortunately weed in Korea is considered the Devil's Lettuce and I can't get a hold of any. I did manage to get some xanax though!! Which is a fucking lifesaver.
 
It's true that 10mg of morphine isn't that much, but you have to remember that a 100mcg/h fent patch is like taking 10mg of morphine every hour. Assuming the patch is always on that's 240mg of equivalent morphine daily. If the half life is say 8hrs then that is an average of a constant 80mg morphine "high".
 
hang in there and tough it out, seriously, fent has some of the most intense withdrawals imagineable, but! there over in 2-3 days since its such a short acting drug.

Hope everything works out for you.
 
Update: I suffered as long as I could, almost made it to midnight before took my Roxi. I took 45mg. It gave me a good amount of relief, I didn't want to take enough to not be in pain totally though. I'm functioning at the moment but if it's like the last one this will only last an hour or to.

So, I went to the store and got some robotussin dm. I'm obviously not going to take it any time soon but I've never dosed with it before. How much should I take and how often? Also, when can i start taking it?

Next question, my girl gave me 3 .5mg Xanax, is that ok to take tomorrow when this roxi is out of my system? How much should i take and should i not mix with the robotussin?

Also, i read somewhere else on here about imodium ad, does that help?

MindoverMeth- I don't know you but you have made the difference with me today. I honestly could not have made it through today without you. You're a hero man. Please keep posting.

Thank you again to everyone else. Almost 2 days down now without the fentanyl. I'm sure I'll be back in hell soon but right now this minute, I believe i can do this. And it's only because of you guys, thank you so much. I can never repay you all enough.
 
Jkpoindexter said:
Update: I suffered as long as I could, almost made it to midnight before took my Roxi. I took 45mg. It gave me a good amount of relief, I didn't want to take enough to not be in pain totally though. I'm functioning at the moment but if it's like the last one this will only last an hour or to.

So, I went to the store and got some robotussin dm. I'm obviously not going to take it any time soon but I've never dosed with it before. How much should I take and how often? Also, when can i start taking it?

Next question, my girl gave me 3 .5mg Xanax, is that ok to take tomorrow when this roxi is out of my system? How much should i take and should i not mix with the robotussin?

Also, i read somewhere else on here about imodium ad, does that help?

MindoverMeth- I don't know you but you have made the difference with me today. I honestly could not have made it through today without you. You're a hero man. Please keep posting.

Thank you again to everyone else. Almost 2 days down now without the fentanyl. I'm sure I'll be back in hell soon but right now this minute, I believe i can do this. And it's only because of you guys, thank you so much. I can never repay you all enough.
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whats in robitussin? codeine? Im not sure how much that will help since its such a weak opiate but give it a try, it might give you some temporary releif, imodium is ment to help quite alot.

Xanax will be good at helping anxiety and restlessness, with no tolerance take 0.5mg, if it doesnt help id just do the whole 1.5mg as thats not a huge dose but should be noticeable.
 
The robitussin is for MindOverMethadone's recommendation of dextromethorphan :\
Immodium i.e. Lopermide is an opioid which will of course help as well.
 
It's been 2 hours now and the ache is coming back. Depression is really starting to kick in at this point. The idea of what I'm going through and how i got to this point in my life is just now setting in. I was able to eat not too long ago, I don't know how that's going to work out when the roxi wears off. It did feel so good to eat though. I have to work today, there's no way around it. I'm really scared that after this pain goes away I'll forget what I went through and go back down that path to get high. I don't want to but my brain is so completely focused on the idea. This is so overwhelming.

I should add that it is impossible for me to avoid being around the fentanyl(family member) any advise there?I can reduce my interaction with this person to once a week but no less. I have to go there in 3 days, that's a scary thought to face.

I can feel the yearning in my body creeping back as I'm typing and I'm getting pretty warm now, won't be long till I'm back on the floor praying for this to stop. Fuck it, I'm ready to fight, I have no choice. Can I start taking Xanax now or should I wait some? It's been two hours since the roxi.

Thank you all again so much, you're my only interaction with anyone and it's so helpful.
 
You'll be fine mixing a benzo in whenever. It will contribute to depressed breathing typical of getting high on ops but that won't be much of an issue if you are just in withdrawal.
 
Jkpoindexter said:
It's been 2 hours now and the ache is coming back. Depression is really starting to kick in at this point. The idea of what I'm going through and how i got to this point in my life is just now setting in. I was able to eat not too long ago, I don't know how that's going to work out when the roxi wears off. It did feel so good to eat though. I have to work today, there's no way around it. I'm really scared that after this pain goes away I'll forget what I went through and go back down that path to get high. I don't want to but my brain is so completely focused on the idea. This is so overwhelming.

I should add that it is impossible for me to avoid being around the fentanyl(family member) any advise there?I can reduce my interaction with this person to once a week but no less. I have to go there in 3 days, that's a scary thought to face.

I can feel the yearning in my body creeping back as I'm typing and I'm getting pretty warm now, won't be long till I'm back on the floor praying for this to stop. Fuck it, I'm ready to fight, I have no choice. Can I start taking Xanax now or should I wait some? It's been two hours since the roxi.

Thank you all again so much, you're my only interaction with anyone and it's so helpful.
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try and hold out if you can on the xanax, you say you cant get out of work? I really really would try to get a day off if you can otherwise work will be hell, but if you really have too id save the xanax for work and do a low dose to help anxiety from the WD. (Obviously should never mix drugs and work, but i think it would really help you get through the day).
 
You're tossing a lot of substances out there :/ I would recommend against using any of them together. Using benzos shortly after a full-agonist opiate like Roxi is very dangerous due to respiratory depression (assuming you take enough to pass out). The DXM in the tussin will lower your opiate tolerance but it might also make you pass out and I'm not sure how dangerous that is, but I would recommend against it.

When do you have to be up and functioning again?
I just need to know how much time you have.
Hang in there friend. Keep me posted.
 
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I still don't understand what you mean by DXM will lower his opiate tolerance? I know it is an opioid in itself which will relieve some of his withdrawal symptoms and has been used for that purpose before. Why not just stick with the much easier to understand oxycodone which he seems to have a supply of?

Also if he's only using the roxi to get halfway back to baseline I don't think a .5 of Xanax is going to stop his breathing anymore than it would a completely sober person.
 
MindOverMethadone said:
If it makes you feel any better, I'm on the same boat. My skin feels like it's constantly crawling, my stomach feels like a colony of ants are building themselves a little home with my innards, I feel like I'm butt naked in a blizzard one minute, then in the earth's core the next. I'm puking everything I eat and I can't sit still for one minute. Minutes seem like days, as if time has ceased in its place. I somehow....somehow made it day 6. I don't feel any better but I know I will with each passing day. It's mind over matter. That may seem like worthless advice now, but just think about a life without opiate dependence. It's freedom in my eyes. What eases my mind a bit, as fucked up as it is, is that there are people out there who are living in way worse conditions than I am. People who would give their limbs to be in my shoes.

Not trying to pry into your personal life (which is kind of funny given the situation), but do you have enough money to pay for clinical help? Suboxone can be a lifesaver for someone like you who is dependent on such a strong opiate.
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When I see people talk about having a dependency & wanting to get off & feeling its the worse thing anyone can ever go threw in their lives, i jsut laugh because like you stated, there are people that go threw things on this earth that make these addictions of narcotics seems laughable.
 
OverDone said:
true, there are some rather severe things people all over must endure but we can't measure someone else's pain. Its belongs to them and is very real.

I would hardly call it laughable
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Very true & I may have worded it wrong & I apoligize to anyone going threw withdrawals if I offended them but I think everyone understands where im coming from with how I was trying to word it. I shouldnt have said laughable but didnt know how else to word it at the time.
 
^I understand what you're saying. In fact, I've stated before, that one of the things that kept me mentally headstrong was the fact that I know there are people out there who are dying of starvation, debilitating diseases, etc; No offense taking on my part. I'm just saying that there are millions of opiate addicts around the world, and some people would rather take their own lives or relapse rather than go through withdrawals and we need to support each other.
 
TheLostBoys said:
When I see people talk about having a dependency & wanting to get off & feeling its the worse thing anyone can ever go threw in their lives, i jsut laugh because like you stated, there are people that go threw things on this earth that make these addictions of narcotics seems laughable.
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There's never any sense in having a pissing contest over personal suffering, but I think the reason that severe acute opiate w/d (I've been through it probably a dozen times, and this last time was almost beyond my capacity for endurance in a way I've never come close to experiencing, so it DOES get worse the older you get, the longer your habit, and the higher your sustained dose - exponentially worse) does seem so unendurable is because of the combination of physical agony mixed with a complete lack of natural endorphins and fucked-up neurotransmitters. It creates a stew of mental, emotional, and physical suffering that is unlike anything else. At least with other kinds of suffering, one has access to the full spectrum of one's healthy brain functions.

Luckily, our brains are incredibly, almost unbelievably elastic and have the ability to self-heal from all kinds of abuse. After what I've been through these last 30-something days, I would place this level of opiate withdrawal far, far above anything else I've ever suffered through, and that includes being shot. The first days and weeks are just a grim march toward a light that you aren't even sure exists at the end of the tunnel.

JK, you are doing fantastically. Keep moving forward and you will never have to live through this again. Same to you, Mind/Meth. You kids are young and your bodies and minds have a resilience that will serve you well right now.
 
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