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Just stopped fentanyl, 100mcg/hr. Please help

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This is my first time stopping. I'm been doing 100mcg/hr fentanyl patches for 10 months. I've never experienced withdrawals before. I've never stopped getting high before. This is terrible. I feel like staying on drugs would be better. What helps this process. I've tried everything I can, including Roxycodone. Nothing makes this pain go away. Please help me, I would rather be dead I think.
 
whoa whoa whoa. How much Roxi were you taking? Oxycodone is a pretty damn strong opiate, nothing compared to Fentanyl, but it should have relieved some if not all of your withdrawal symptoms. I'm personally against ever getting on methadone or suboxone, but it has without a doubt saved lives. 10 months is a long time to be abusing such a strong narcotic; I'm not trying to sound pessimistic, but man...just tough it out. Your acute withdrawal symptoms will go away in like 3-5 days. If you decide to get on maintenance like methadone or suboxone your withdrawals will last a lot longer.

I'm personally on day 6...or 7? Since my last dose of Methadone and FUCKS SAKE, it hasn't gotten any better. When I was on about 300+ mg's of Oxy, I remember being able to shake it off around day 4-5. But then again, to each his own. If you have any questions, feel free to message me. I'll help you whatever way I can. Keep ya head up :)

EDIT: Let me add that if you decide to do maintenance, scratch that thought. If you want to quit, try and do a short taper with suboxone. I'm talking maybe starting out with 2mgs (trust me it'll do you justice), then gradually working your way down to 1 mg around day 3-4, .5mgs on days 5-6 and maybe even drop off at .25 on day 7-8. That's not a very precise schedule and I'm sure a lot of verteran members may disagree, but you do NOT, i repeat, you do NOT want to become dependent on methadone/suboxone. And fuck your doctors if they try and start you off on 8mgs of Sub or more. That is so fucking unnecessary. Suboxone has this paradoxal effect, meaning less is more.
 
I took a 30 mg roxi. Pretty much didn't phase me at all. Zero "high" came with it. The pain went away for about an hour n a half though. Should I take more? Would it help with this?
 
Well, fentanyl is a lot stronger than oxy. That's like trying to get high on propoxyphene after having an oxy habit for a year. It's a step down on the opiate scale. Do you want to quit, or are you just trying not to feel like poop until you can get your hands on some more fentanyl?
 
Yes, I want to stop. It's nuts but this has consumed me. It controls my body and especially my mind. There's next to nothing I wouldn't do at this moment to score. It's not just physical, my mind is going crazy right now. I have to stop!!! What helps this pain inside me? What fills this crater inside me? When will it stop?
 
If it makes you feel any better, I'm on the same boat. My skin feels like it's constantly crawling, my stomach feels like a colony of ants are building themselves a little home with my innards, I feel like I'm butt naked in a blizzard one minute, then in the earth's core the next. I'm puking everything I eat and I can't sit still for one minute. Minutes seem like days, as if time has ceased in its place. I somehow....somehow made it day 6. I don't feel any better but I know I will with each passing day. It's mind over matter. That may seem like worthless advice now, but just think about a life without opiate dependence. It's freedom in my eyes. What eases my mind a bit, as fucked up as it is, is that there are people out there who are living in way worse conditions than I am. People who would give their limbs to be in my shoes.

Not trying to pry into your personal life (which is kind of funny given the situation), but do you have enough money to pay for clinical help? Suboxone can be a lifesaver for someone like you who is dependent on such a strong opiate.
 
Wow, you've described how I feel so perfectly. The ache, hot then cold, everything. Day 6 and it's still there? I don't think I can do this for that long. This is my second day.

Yes I can afford treatment like that however, I can't do it legally and continue to work where I do. Ive taken 3 days off work thinking that would be enough, guess I was mistaken. How do you cope with this craving? Every pore on my body is yearning. I cannot sleep at all. I'm constantly restless and aching. Ice one minute then lit on fire the next. I don't think I can do this much longer? Do I want to live if this is what it's like?

And no, you being on day 6 and still in pain does not make me feel any better at all.
 
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Fucking sucks doesn't it?! Someone on here wrote that they wouldn't even wish this on their enemies. If I were you, I would try and take as little bit of the roxi as possible, just to level me out. At this point, your tolerance is so high, if you have no access to Suboxone or Methadone, I would try and taper with what I had. I forgot to mention that I'm withdrawaling after 6 months worth of daily suboxone use. Suboxone withdrawals are supposedly milder (bullshit) but last a shit ton longer.

From my experience, full agonist opiate withdrawals are bit more short-lived than Methadone or Suboxone. Even from my 300+ oxy habit I was usually "functional" around day 4. Lethargy and depression will hit you hard though. Do you have access to Vicodin?....
 
Bro trust me, it will get better. it may get a lil rougher before it gets better, but it will get better. you just need to have some stamina and not give in. because giving in will just start the process over again. not sure exactly on the half life of fent but i know for me the 3-5 day was the worst then it started to get a little less unbearable and got better each day after that.
 
The only thing I have access to is roxi, well of course fentanyl but I'm doing anything I can to not go back down that rabbit hole, there's no way to just do "a little". How much roxi should I take? I don't want to go through this to come off them either. Any suggestions for getting some sleep?

Thank you by the way, for some reason talking to you is helping.
 
Any time man. Keep posting. I found that venting helps a lot. You're helping me by letting me help you. You said you've already taken 30 and don't feel any better?....I would try maybe 15 mgs more? Oxy is a pretty strong drug, I was able to keep my withdrawals at bay with 20 mg's of hydro when I had a bad Oxy habit. Of course we all have different body chemistry and I honestly haven't messed with Fent very much so I'm not sure how bad your withdrawals are, but we're probably on par. Just remember that once you're in withdrawals, it takes a bit longer to feel "better", especially when you've dropped your dose as dramatically as you have. How long has it been since you've taken your last Roxi?
 
Due to fentanyl's short duration and extremely strong potency your in for a lot of pain. I hate to inform you of of this bad news but I'm certainly not going to lie to you. The only plus side is fentanly's withdrawal process is a lot faster than most opioids. For me by day three of fentanyl w/d I start to feel relief , compared to more traditional opioids/opiates where by day three you start to feel the worst of the w/d. I have literally lost my mind w/ding from fentanyl. I hallucinate and constantly vomit and shit. It's as if every w/d is amplified by 100% . I would take w/ding off heroin than fentanyl any day. If you just stick it out and don't use you should feel better quickly.
 
Thank you all for talking to me here. This is keeping me grounded in reality and occupying my mind somewhat which is tremendous. Time seems to have stopped, I look at the clock constantly and nothing changes. I wish I could go into a coma to ride this out. How bad an idea is it to get a few roxi to help me through this pain?
 
Update: I managed about an hour of sleep. No food yet but I did finally keep some juice down. Still in an incredible amount of pain. There is no possible way to get the slightest bit comfortable. They should make drugs do this to you the first few times you use, I never would have done this if I had known. I can sort of deal with the ache, hot then cold, puking, but my god this crave inside me is terrible. I can't go a full minute without the desire to use. I yawn every like 10 min, don't understand that because I cannot sleep. I'm shaking now so it's hard to type.

It's 4 pm I took the Roxi at midnight. My plan is to stick this out till midnight then take another, hopefully get some rest then.
 
Shit I'm sorry man. I popped some benzos and passed out. I hope you didn't take too many Roxis. Let me know what happened.
 
This is my first post as I am usually a lurker but I just wanted to tell you to hang in there!! Also since you were using patches you may want to try and drink water as much as possible to flush out your system. The med will linger in your tissue/fat longer because it was being absorbed through your skin. Stay Strong!!
 
I'm at a strange point right now. I end up just stareing at something for really long amounts of time and stuff starts to move. Weird huh? The pain is getting worse, it's not sharp like a knife, it's like I lifted tons of weights yesterday and every tissue and fiber in my body is aching. My mouths dry but I can't really drink. My fingernails and skin feels strange, like dry and brittle. I don't think I can hold off on taking this next Roxi much longer. I need some kind of relief, even if it's only an hour, will taking those prolong this process?
 
Definitely will prolong it. I'm not 100% sure what to tell you 'cause you can't check yourself into a clinic. The reason I asked if you had access to Vicodins is because I have successfully gotten off Opiates by taking small amounts of Hydrocodone several times a day to keep my withdrawals at bay, shortening the amount every day. Do you have a day to spare? Or maybe two? I know for a fact that DXM (Robutussin DM? Someone please correct me) lowers your tolerance. It will help alleviate some symptoms and even help you sleep. Trust me on that. Just don't drink too much please, small doses every 15-20 minutes until you feel a bit of relief.

SHIT!! Let me add that you should not mix Robotussin with your Roxis though. Wait at least 12-18 hours from your last roxi dose before you even consider this.

I am so sorry about the condition you are in :( We can get through this!! Think about how much better life will be once we break these shackles that Opiates have on us. Can you smell that? That's freedom :)
 
Taking them will slightly prolong it, but will bring a little bit of relief for a while.

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or what he said^ :)
I would not recommend DXM though.
 
^ I honestly haven't ever taken the DXM route, but my friend who is in pharmacology SWEARS by it. Small doses of DXM is supposed to lower your opiate tolerance (not sure about the chemistry). But yeah, taking the Roxi's should help. What I don't get is how 30 mg's isn't alleviating your pain. Can someone please tell me how strong Fent is?
 
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