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Heroin Just off bupe, but I'm going back to heroin & need help with dosage!!

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aussiegirl

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Ok so I've just started back on heroin recently (within this week) just after doing a rapid detox in hospital on bupe! Now I never wanted to get off heroin, I was just doing it for my worker (who hates that I am on H) but anyways when I went into hospital to clean, I was on IV bupe for about 5 days & the second I got home I completely stopped taking my suboxone wafers which my idiot doc prescribed 16mg a day which I fucking way too strong, but anyways so I stopped the bupe on Friday night & have now been clean 4-5 days! Now I know some people ain't gonna like this but I have decided to go back on to Heroin. I was honestly never READY to give up the drugs, but my worker is very close to me & I wanted to TRY FOR HIM, but the bupe made me feel like shit (depressed & suicidal!) so I couldn't stay on it. Anyways my question is: I WAS on a 1.5gram - 2gram a day habit before my detox. But now I need to know what would be a safe dosage in heroin to start back off on...???
I really don't need a lecture about how bad going back onto heroin or how I shouldn't go back on, because I have already got the shit & just to find a SAFE dose! I am trying to do the right thing by asking! I know this sounds stupid by I was thinking about going on 0.50mg or half a point. But I dunno how to start back on it... HELP!! :?
 
Just be careful mate, you seem to know the story and none of us can tell you what a safe dose will be. However, I have seen a feww people OD by accident after getting out of a detox unit. Youn know yourself you can alway have another hit if you need it, you can't take it out of your system.

If you don't mind I'm interested in what you mean by worker too?

Best of luck with it.
 
Doody OD said:
If you don't mind I'm interested in what you mean by worker too?
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For those who wanna know what a meant by "worker" I meant like a social or youth worker, or a drug & alcohol worker. My "worker" is from the Salvation Army!! I love him (but not in a weird way lol). Sorry for the confusion!
 
There is no way for us to tell you because the variables the effect the purity of dope are all over the place and you never know what you're getting.

The safe bet is to always just start very low. Whatever you would do in a normal dose, do a quarter of that. Tolerance goes down very quickly so just remember you can always do more but you can't do less.
 
I know the strength of my heroin because I get it straight from the cutter & he is a good mate. I get 1/3 pure heroin cut with glucose & a medical grade synthetic sweeterner. so I am very lucky that I DO actually know whats going into my gear...
 
It's always good advice to chase a little bit first, to gauge the strength if you're not sure. At any rate, starting slow is your best bet, because going back to your old habit is one of the most common causes of OD.

Take it easy. And yeah, quitting for someone else is sweet but never really helps, does it? Only works if you really want it yourself. Proceed carefully!
 
aussiegirl said:
I know the strength of my heroin because I get it straight from the cutter & he is a good mate. I get 1/3 pure heroin cut with glucose & a medical grade synthetic sweeterner. so I am very lucky that I DO actually know whats going into my gear...
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Well good for you.. but there is always the off chance that even your connection doesn't know how strong a particular batch its, makes a mistake in cutting, etc.

But, provided it is the same strength, starting out with a quarter of your normal dose is a safe bet. You can move up from there in dosage but do so gradually.
 
I like how almost everyone on this site gets the best most pure/ right off the key drugs but me. I guess I gotta find better connects.

Take no offense to me OP I'm just feeling a bit cranky.
 
I understand exactly where you are coming from. However, please be open to what I have to say as I care about my fellow humankind.

GET OFF THE BUPE AND END THE VISCOUS CYCLE!

I was addicted to heroin for a few years and let me tell you those highs come to an end and eventually your life becomes a whirlwind of pain and misery. It completely consumes your very being and it turns on you. You start getting sick more often and you start to sell everything you own and every penny of your income goes to it and you cannot feel happy anymore WITH OUT WITHOUT it. I am telling you quit because it is an illusion. You will only need more and more and more and more to continue to feel its warmth and love until you kill yourself. Because that's the only place it will lead. You will not find some sort of existential happiness with dope. You are racing to the grave and your family and friends will forever live with the aching pain that their loved one is dead and/or a shadow of her former self because she is so consumed by heroin.

Please heed my advice.
Much love.
 
I think op has probably already figured that out thuglife. But yeah start with 1/4 the dose you think will get you right and then proceed from there.
 
I really applaud you for asking about this before using. I have no advice, but just wanted to give you credit for posting this question.
 
im surprised u were getting IV Bupe, if u were only in the hospital for a few days, along with a few days away from heroin, and at the same time being fed an opioid thats extremely potent (bupe) then i would say you can go back to ur normal amount of heroin, maybe a little less just to be safe, then again if u got bupe in ur system, u may get some blockage to a degree, so at the same time u may need more..but 3 days away from heroin and being on a substitute isnt enough time for ur tolerance to drop wher eu have to worry about dosing
 
If I understand it: You were off Heroin and on Bupe for a week, you have now been off Bupe for 4 days: There should be no buprenorphine blockage of any heroin you decide to take. As people have said, start slow. No more than half of what you were taking before, to start. Even though you could probably handle a 3/4 dose, don't risk it. Why don't you try Methadone? It works for a lot of people and feels completely different than Bupe. Bupe is just an opioid, while Methadone is a full on opiate.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Well good for you.. but there is always the off chance that even your connection doesn't know how strong a particular batch its, makes a mistake in cutting, etc.

But, provided it is the same strength, starting out with a quarter of your normal dose is a safe bet. You can move up from there in dosage but do so gradually.
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This is good advice. My Girlfriend and I took a 10 day break off of heroin-I continued with just methadone, she did a suboxone taper. Before this hiatus we were shooting at least 6 bags to feel the stuff, and after 10 days, we both shot 3 bags, and it was actually a bit too intense for my girlfriend, but just right for me. Thing is, you really never know. Opiate tolerance can drop pretty fast for some, and for others it won't, but either way, it shoots back up in no time.
 
I agree with everyone saying do a 1/4 of what you think will be a good dose and go from there. I nearly died from an overdose a few months ago after id abstained from gear for awhile. A week is certainly enough time for your tolerance to drop and depending on the person your tolerance may drop a lot or a little. I have no idea how your managing a habit of up to 2 grams a day of Aussie gear. Something tells me its really shit gear or your not getting as much as you think but then again I dont know you so its not really up to me to make judgements like that. Before I had a break I was using 1/2 to a full gram of quality white rock and I OD'd off 1.5 points of not so good gear, it really suprised me and scared the fuck out of me as every other time ive OD'd ive had benzo's(namely xanax) onboard as well, but I went blue from heroin alone.

Im actually a bit worried already as we havent got any replies from the OP. If you read this Aussiegirl please reply so we now your ok?

EDIT: If you decide you do want to quit then give methadone a try, the longest ive ever been off heroin and other opiods/opiates was when I was on methadone. I think I had like 3 shots in about 2 years of being on methadone partially because it was harder to get, partially because I needed so much more heroin or oxy and mostly because I didnt actually want to or feel the NEED to use like I always had before. Bupe was good for keeping me from getting sick but I still used a lot when I was on the bupe program.
 
aussiegirl said:
I know the strength of my heroin because I get it straight from the cutter & he is a good mate. I get 1/3 pure heroin cut with glucose & a medical grade synthetic sweeterner. so I am very lucky that I DO actually know whats going into my gear...
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You stupid stupid stupid girl!

Grow some female balls and aim to get through life without drugs.

Geeze talk about integrity.
 
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