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RedT

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Hi

My bio gives a description of my personal stance but here goes. I grew up with Alcoholic parents, dad got sober when I was 12, mom lost custody of me and my sisters when I was 7 and I didnt see her again until I was 26 and than not again until I was 49. I spent from 14-16, 17-26 using cocaine, alcohol and meth. I never used the needle but did enough damage without it. I went to NA for several years and grew up in a AA home so subscribed to philosophies. I think there are many valuable tools the program offers but am not convinced the method is the only way. I think someone who wants to make life changes bad enough can use many things, however, I think the only path to personal change is the willingness to self-reflect-in a serious way. Honesty is the great healing power. I started smoking pot a couple years ago after 23 years of abstinence for sleep and some light recreation. It has not triggered me into relapse. I also started drinking wine (very cautiously) and also have found I have not triggered into addictive relapse. I dont enjoy being drunk anymore and after so long without it it makes me throw up if I do drink too much. One-two glasses seems to be more than enough at this point although I am watching my behavior. I wonder if all those years of self-work did some kind of reset. I do know the idea of being a dope head or alcoholic has ZERO appeal anymore. Kindof gross to me. Its not who I want to be and its not who I have been for these last 23 years, so its not where I want to go right now. I am aware of the dangers and I realize I could be playing with fire, but am cautiously monitoring myself at this point.

I fell in love with a man half my age three years ago and while I know the relationship could end at anytime we have had a deep connection that has made it worth it. Only problem is he is a heroin addict who has been clean on and off for the last 3 years. He seems to get about 10 months, things go well and off he goes. I have watched him relapse three times and it is a dreadful, horrible experience. I refused to date addicts for all those years but never met someone that I truly fell in love with. I dont know if it is "ironic" he is. He relapsed about 8 weeks ago and while has stopped the heroin (I can totally tell) I suspect he is using coke instead. I am not sure how much longer I can continue if he continues. He also is a high functioning autistic/Asperberger and his anxiety can send him over. Right now I am in wait and see mode and there are days I am ready to break it off. The only reason I dont is because for three years it has been far more good than bad and I know how different he is when not using. I just cant stand him when he is. I have enough "education" to know what I am supposed to do, but right now am just in limbo. I love him deeply, but the erratic, awful behavior is too hard to be with. So, here I am, checking out this forum and trying to figure it all out.
 
Welcome to Bluelight! There are certainly a lot of different perspectives offered here and that's a great thing about this place, imo.

I'm 26 and have been using/abusing various substances since the age of 15. I stay the hell away from alcohol and opioid now as they would destroy me I feel. I have two daughters I'm trying to do the best for. I'm very interested in chemsitry/nuerochemistry, especially pertaining to psychoactives. Sorry for rambling, just wanted to introduce myself and welcome you to this awesome community.
 
Hello RedT...WELCOME to a place of shared experiences, and heartfelt support. =D

Congratulations on your efforts to get clean and stay that way. PLEASE tread cautiously with this relationship. I have no personal experience with addiction, but my childhood was filled with relatives who were never sober. My concern for you is obvious. Can his addiction draw you back into a life that you have put AWAY? Is it worth it?

I'm 54, married for 35 years. I have nieces and nephews half my age, and find them SO immature and clueless. I can't imagine a romantic relationship with someone 25-30, but I can see the allure and the lust of a physical relationship. Three years is a long time, so this obviously is no fling, and goes beyond the sex.

Is he willing to enter detox? I do believe you're playing with fire, but hopefully you keep an "extinguisher" within reach.

Stay aware and stern in your dedication to a clean life. KUDOS!
 
Thanks, I think what I am struggling with is if I have to let this man go out of my life or not. When not using he is an amazing, beautiful human being worth knowing and we have had this intense connection that has made us both happy more than unhappy. But when using I cant stand who he becomes. He is not even close to the same person. And the trust! My god the trust. He lies when he uses, which is what addicts do. He says he has been clean for two weeks now, and right now I do think he isnt shooting H but I am questioning if he has picked up stimulants as an alternative. Its very painful to watch and he is so moody and paranoid that it makes it hard to trust. I cant tell if its part of the withdrawal process or not. I have been through withdrawal twice now with him and neither time fun. I love him a lot but I dont love him like this. I am in waiting right now just trying to make up my mind.

as far as myself goes, at the moment, I do not seem to be in an addictive state. I dont know if it is biological anymore. There is a rat study that talks about this.http://www.brucekalexander.com/articles-speeches/rat-park/148-addiction-the-view-from-rat-park. The first round of testing had rats in a cage ONLY with heroin or water as choice. this new study has rats in Rat Park Heaven and none of them chose the heroin. So it is biological or psychological. I was abstinent for 23 years and am now drinking lightly. I smoke periodically. There are typically three stages: experimential, recreational and addictive. I too worry about falling back into the addictive state, but mentally I have ZERO interest in it. So I proceed with caution.

As far as his age goes, we are simply two human beings. We have many, many things in common, and areas where we are different, just like any other relationship. For a long time I viewed it as a fun thing because of the age, but the age doesnt matter when we are together so I try and not put more emphasis on it than it deserves. Its just two adults.
 
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