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Just Detoxed & Home ?

dory

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My daughter a Heroin addict just came home today after 6 day detox 5 days on Methadone and is still physically sick. She wants to know how much longer this could last she said she wasn't this bad sick last time . While home shes looking for another ReHab that takes her insurance. I'm going to ask her to sign up for this site .
 
I Think I found her answer , Maybe her dosage of Methadone was too Low they started her on 10mg and tapered to 7.5 then nothing over 5 days on the 6th day she came home.
 
10mg LOL, no fucking wonder-god damn sadists. It would take 60mg to get me just barely well... Look into Kratom, really, even if it's just an interim thing while awaiting going to a program or getting on a maintenance drug, Kratom saved my ass. I'm a heroin addict who just came home too after two years of slamming tar and being homeless. I was ready to die because I didn't have an ID (and therefore couldn't get on suboxone) when I remembered Kratom and visited the local headshop and got myself some. It's legal, it's technically not an opiate, and its also natural, but it really fucking works for withdrawals and suppressing cravings.
 
Thanks so much for writing back. Ill look into The Krantom you mentioned. Shes so scared . Its her 2nd time detoxing and ReHab. She wants to beat this thing so bad so I told her minute by minute for now then day by day. Wishing she was still a baby so I could protect her but she isn't but Me & Her Dad will never give up on her . Its the fight of her life & she needs all the support she can get. Thanks Again:)
 
Hi Dory, I'm glad you found Bluelight. Kratom can be helpful going through withdrawals but you don't want her to get addicted to that either. There is a medication called clonidine that will help many of her symptoms. I hope she can get into a new program soon.

I'm a mom in recovery and my son has had three stays in rehab. He's been clean since October and I'm praying he stays off drugs for good. Never give up! Sending hugs your way! <3
 
Just know that this addiction is a beast and sad to stay, there right be a few more runs before she's finished. I'm hoping there aren't but I just wanted to mention it because don't think for a second that if your daughter were to relapse that it'd mean she doesn't love you or the old man. I just came back home to get clean cause I found out my father has stage four lung cancer with maybe 9months left to live (but who knows there could be a miracle). I feel so damn guilty that while I was spending the last two years popping pills, shooting meth and heroin and smoking crack like an animal, this cancer was growing in him and I can't get that time back. I hope that by getting clean he'll feel the love I have for him. He was an addict much of my life so I think he gets it but it gets me choked up just thinking about how there were periods of time when I was on the street when I wouldn't even call him to let him know I was alive for six months and then usually when I did it was because I was trying to get money out of him.. All I can do is be there for him now though. Addiction is a family disease
 
Let this thread stand as an example of how rehabilitation hospitals are ripping people off. They see you are in crisis, desperation and give it to you up the ass.
 
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Dory, Chadd does make a valid point. Detox/rehabs vary widely in the quality of care given. You wrote in your first post that your daughter is looking for another rehab hospital. Please have her question them thoroughly as to what exactly is the type of care she will be given, what type of medications are used and will she be sent home with a continuation of the medications needed to keep her comfortable enough so she does not relapse.
After going cold turkey in 2013, from opiates and very low dose of benzos, I cannot imagine being in a hospital or a center that did not provide privacy, well educated addiction professionals, and a psychiatrist specializing in addiction and being certified in suboxone treatment. I was in my own home, and utilizing much information and support found online on recovery based forums, I was able to detox in the comfort of my own home. I had my private bathroom, which is very much needed, the ability to take as many showers and baths as I wanted, and I could wash my sheets and jammies. Detoxing is not at all a dignified process.

T. Calderone is right about the clonidine. I did make a run to an ER close to my home, as my blood pressure spiked when my adrenal glands began to function again, and I paid over $200.00 for a clonidine patch, all told. ( I could have avoided the high cost if I had been honest with my primary care doctor and asked him for the clonidine). It immediately lowered my blood pressure to normal, calmed me down, allowed me to get some much needed sleep, and I was back at my full time job 5 days later. So, if she had the clonidine, which she could get at her primary care physician or a local urgent care, and did some basic research here on BL on our withdrawal mega threads, and posted in our Sober Living section, she would be able to make good choices around her treatment preferences.
 
I would check out the stickied thread about rehabs and detoxes. Just reading it will give you an idea of what to be wary for.

Personally what worked for me was not 12step but behavioral therapy. I don't cast doubt that twelve steps works for some, but for me it does not.

Looking at the websites for different rehabs, or talking to the staff will pretty much be useless because they will be feeding you a bunch of nonsense about how their place is amazing. Put the name of the place in your search engine and read testimonials. Only your daughter can decide what is right for her.
 
I'm not an expert on Methadone, but the way i see it, if she's already clean for a few days (without any drug or substitute) i think she could try to fight a few more days and the most intense withdrawals will go away. On the other hand, Methadone has a long half-life so i don't know how severe and how long will be the withdrawal period. Also, if she wants to stay clean, some people do it better staying with a substitute drug (Meth or Subs) for a long period.. i advise subutex for a short period, trading one drug for another, it's not a solution for me. I wish her the best!
 
For what it's worth I agree with manboychef. Behavioral Therapy can be more effective for highly motivated individuals.
 
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