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Opioids Just a small question regarding OxyContin?

Paulington

Paulington

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Hey there guys!

I am legally prescribed 2x 120mg OxyContin MR and 3-4x OxyNorm 20mg IR capsules daily, I usually take a lot less than this but some days I take the full dose. This is prescribed for chronic pain resulting from a motorcycle accident. I have these on repeat so I just walk in and get given a script when I need it and will likely be on them for life.

Anyway, my question is, I live in the UK and all over this forum I see experiments and complaints about OxyContin OP pills replacing the OCs.

In the UK, my pills were manufactured in October 2011 and yet they STILL have the standard 'OC' markings which makes me think the OP pills are not coming to the UK as if they were they'd have been here a long time ago? Are there any people using oxycodone in OxyContin form in the UK that have got some 'OP' marked pills through legal channels?

Thanks in advance for any answers. It just seems odd that NAPP are still making normal 'OC' marked OxyContin for the UK market! I thought it may be different companies but as far as I know Purdue Pharma/NAPP are essentially the same company? Anyone able to shed any light?

Also, I know for a fact that US users are jealous. =D.

Cheers!
 
Yeah, but ever since legit OxyContin went away, I realized how shitty oxycodone is and how much fun others are, like dilaudid and opana :D

I'm pretty sure they can still sell the original oxycontin in europe because it's the US FDA that pressured purdue into changing it.
 
They make em in Aust, and ive heard of 200mg pills...Never seen one though, 120mg in AUstralia are called m.s.mono 120mg.They last 24 hrs hence the mono...
 
Hey guys.

In the UK they prescribe OxyContin in sizes: 10mg (white), 20mg (pink), 40mg (yellow I believe), 80mg (green) and 120mg (grey). These are all modified release designed to release over 12 hours.

Over here, oxycodone is incredibly hard to get on prescription from any Doctor. Your pain issues have to be incredibly well documented and even then they will only start you on the lowest dose and then titrate up. As far as I know no-one gets prescribed oxycodone without attending a pain clinic like I do. Especially in doses like mine, every pharmacy I know has to special order my 120mg pills.

When I entered the pain clinic I was taking over 900mg of oxycodone daily, legally prescribed of course. Through a combination of slow tapering and willpower I managed to reduce it without the methadone they prescribed me. Now I am on a dose that is manageable and I deal with.

I guess that must be the reason then? The FDA/DEA pressuring Purdue Pharma due to the incredible amount of OxyContin abuse in America? I am not sure of how much it is abused over here in the grand scheme of things but I think around where I live an 80mg OxyContin pill sells for around *snip*

I imagine we'll be sticking with the standard OC one then.

Cheers!
 
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They do not make 120mg Oxycontin pills here in the UK. I assume OP is taking 3 x 40mg OC40 tablets, twice per day. OC40mg is pretty widely prescribed here.
 
This might not relate but I get legit oxycontin over here in america all the time there back in circulation :D but not because there legal to be produced in america I think there coming from mexico
 
Paulington said:
Hey guys.

In the UK they prescribe OxyContin in sizes: 10mg (white), 20mg (pink), 40mg (yellow I believe), 80mg (green) and 120mg (grey). These are all modified release designed to release over 12 hours.

Cheers!
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Thats what we get also....Accept our grey ones are 100mg...
 
That's pretty crazy that there's a 120mg Oxycontin. I know the U.S. had the 160mg pill, but it was discontinued. But, I do have a question, Paul...

Since the U.S. changed the formula, and now Canada has changed their formula as well, is there any talk about the formula being changed in the UK as well? Since yours still say "OC" it's obviously the original formula. But has your doctor or chemist said anything about a change?
 
Hey guys.

Firstly, if you're going to tell me you're wrong, at least do some research to prove your 'facts' before you blurt them out invariably making you look a complete idiot.

Secondly, hey Robot. There has been no talk from either my GP (General Practicioner, like your PCP in the US I guess) or my Consultant Doctor in Pain Management about the OxyContin changing from original OC formula to new OP formula, none at all. As far as I know it isn't going to happen as it's nearly two years or so since they changed it in the US I think and I have pills manufactured in October 2011 which are still the old 'OC' formulation so if it was going to change, it would have by now I think.

Just a proof image, by the way:

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I guess they've decided that oxycodone just isn't abused enough in the UK to warrant the formulation change? That combined with the fact it is almost impossible to get through legal channels here in any size dose, let alone the bigger doses means they are just going to leave it I guess.

Also, as far as my knowledge extends, they never brought the 160mg OxyContin pill over to the UK. The biggest OxyContin pills over here are the ones I take, 120mg. Confirmed by the Formulary, the GP's computer systems and the labels inside the packaging.

It makes me chuckle when people are surprised at the doses I seem to be taking, my daily total of ~300mg is low. When I first started attending the pain clinic I was taking between 800mg - 1200mg -1400mg per day. With their help and a lot of hard work I managed to get it down.

In the UK, codeine is widely prescribed for pain of all types, usually as 30mg codeine phosphate pills OR 30/500 Co-Codamol (30mg Codeine + 500mg Paracetamol). If that doesn't work, they tend to (depending on pain) throw in Tramadol, they usually add an NSAID such as diclofenac/meloxicam, they can also add something like amitriptyline/gabapentin and will almost always keep paracetamol prescribed if your other pills don't include it. After that they'll go up to morphine. After that it will be something like fentanyl in a duragesic patch. Only after all that (and possibly another 3/4 opiates + more shuffling of NSAIDs/TCAs/GABA analogues and other medications) will they prescribe oxycodone in the South West where I live. It's rarely prescribed as pretty much any patient has their pain well under control long before they get as far up the opiate ladder as this and then likely has surgery to correct it.

Cheers!
 
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Fentanyl patches are more commonly prescribed in the UK for analgesia than oxycodone is, although the latter is becoming more popular.. It is only fairly recently that oxycodone is seen more than very occasionally. Opioid prescribing is very different here to the US..

Paulington, I've not heard anything about switching to the OP formulation here :)
 
Hey guys.

As Effie said, fentanyl is more commonly prescribed for chronic pain due to it's dosage form. It's administered transdermally which is not only very precise and controllable it's very difficult to 'abuse' the patches in the same way you can abuse pills. Also as said above, opioids above codeine/tramadol are not prescribed very often outside of a hospital setting unless you have a proven track record of chronic pain and an obvious problem in your medical records (which every doctor can check at the click of a mouse, no doctor shopping here!) which would possibly present with chronic pain.

Effie, I would reply to you, but due to being a bit of a newbie, I am restricted to one every 180 minutes! If you would like a reply, feel free to PM me an e-mail or some such.

Cheers!
 
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Blue 160mg tablet was for use in hospitals before being discontinued due to potential overdosing... or so I read.
I get 120mg, 80mg & 40mg (280mg\day) tablets here in the U.K.
5, 10, 20, 40 are the same size untill you reach 80's, they're twice the size.
 
on the matter of the formulation change here in the states, and now canada, im not so sure its actually about the abuse, from what ive been reading (always looking for news about the impending patent lapse) think it could have more to do with the patent itself. as you know, purdue fights hard to hold onto their patent on extended release oxycodone, they claimed original OC had a specialformulation causing extended release, which obviously proved to not be true, a thick outer coating is not a special formulation. around 2005, realizing this, the fda approved several other companies (ethex, malinkrodt and more) to make generic OC er pills, all were in the same mg/ color designation. a year or two later, they reversed this decision based on the agreement that purdue would in fact change their formula to an actual extended release, like they claimed contin was over a decade ago. so in the end, they only made OPs to protect their monopoly on extented release oxy, tho i guess the fda could have been motivated by curbing abuse, but in the end, its all about patents. want to hear something really sick tho? as most of us know. the patent is up this year regardless, but a little fda loophole exists, that purdue is currently preparing to use, is a 6 month extension on any patent, if the company does their own research on the effects of patented substance, on children 6-18... as if the effects o opiates on children werent well known and documented. theyre about to give children dope to squeeze out just another 6 months of their corner in the market.. just so you know where purdues priorities are.
 
holey shit the 120mg oxycontins are prolly one of the best pills you can get...even a time release 120 popped whole would get me fuckedd
 
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