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Jesus not son of God = more meaning

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I think the son of God thing is a corruption. I believe Jesus was born out of wedlock, homeless, and became the greatest prophet who got nailed to a cross for speaking the truth.

Words from the Dust Gospel
 
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I think what Jesus meant was he was only a son of God like all of us, he just realised it.

And he wasn't born poor, in a manger, or out of wedlock. His family was as prosporous as most.

The poverty angle is more likely something that's been added to make the majority who has been poor feel content with and want nothing more than that.
 
The Bible loses most of it's spiritual / philosophical value, when interpreted literally.

I think what Jesus meant was he was only a son of God like all of us

Me too.

he wasn't born poor

You don't know that.
You shouldn't state things as facts, when they're just guesses.
 
Not my guess, in his channeled messages he always states that.

(His father was an architect and his sons worked for him - carpenter could aso be another word for architect).

And he was obviously given a good education.
 
Do you receive this channeled messages directly? Is there any disagreement among those who believe in the channeled messages of Christ? Or are they totally consistent?
 
Do you receive this channeled messages directly? Is there any disagreement among those who believe in the channeled messages of Christ? Or are they totally consistent?

No, I was just referring to what comes through modern channelers in general.
 
No, I was just referring to what comes through modern channelers in general.

Okay, so are they (the modern "channelers") consistent?
(Note: I'm going to prove that they're not.)

And if not, how do you know which "channeler" is telling the truth?

...

Be wary of false prophets.
 
The virgin birth thing is a parable that doesn't start with the Bible. Many cultures before and after use the same allegory, which IMO is used to describe a being of purity. Nothing is more pure than a virgin, after all.

Jesus said, "The Father and I are one". See Hinduism, Buddhism, and Daoism on "duality" to understand this, and the Holy Trinity. Early Christians didn't have the luxury of being able to consult the other religions of the world like we can today, so it would be easy to convince them of some degree of literalism, especially during the First Crusades when Christiandom really started to gain momentum.

It's really, really unfortunate that over time the message got corrupted and the metaphor became confused with actual form, to such an extent that people really believe there was one and only one true son of God. The metaphor is painfully obvious for anyone who steps outside of Christianity and learns more about the other religions of the world.

No matter what your brand of spirituality, if you take it to a high level then it's impossible to avoid confronting duality. Unfortunately, Christiandom has sanitized the reality by keeping God and humans separate so that we will always owe Him (a.k.a the Church) something, instead of realizing the simple truth that we came from Him, are part of Him now, and will go back to Him later.

Hell is duality and living in a state of denial and separation. When you feel separate, you suffer. When you remember you are always connected, ego steps aside and you don't suffer. The whole fire and brimstone thing came from Dante's Inferno in the Middle Ages and has nothing to do with the Old Testament. Hell is duality-consciousness. Paradise is Oneness consciousness. It's all right here, in this present moment.

If you just focus on the words of Jesus and toss out the rest, there's a lot more clarity. But even Jesus' words are second hand and recorded more than 50 years after he died, so who knows if the man ever existed.
 
I think Jesus is the way to find god! and I believe Jesus was a really good person, I saw Jesus sometime on acid/shroom trips, it must be a powerfull spiritual being which manifested in the historical person of Jesus from Nazareth.

I once had a trip on hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. I encountered sort of a hierarchy of words that represented powerfull concepts. for example I learned that FRIENDSHIP is followed up by LOVE in the same way as JESUS is followed up by GOD, if you know what I mean. so if you believe in Jesus or follow his teachings you will go to heaven. read the Bible it's all written ^^;
 
I think Jesus is the way to find god!

Is there no other way to find God?
If not, does Christianity own God?

Before Jesus, did nobody have a relationship with God?
If so, why did Jesus base most of his teachings on other prophets?
 
Jesus is just one good example of the path that leads to God in the Western world. Up until a few decades ago people didn't really have access to anything else so it was pretty much Christianity or nothing. Few were exposed to all kinds of philosophical and religious material like we are now.
 
Ninae said:
Jesus is just one good example of the path that leads to God in the Western world. Up until a few decades ago people didn't really have access to anything else so it was pretty much Christianity or nothing.

Is religion required to have a relationship with God?

I object to the idea that Jesus was the only avenue to God in the western world, at any point in time.

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You ignored these questions:

me said:
...are they (the modern "channelers") consistent?
(Note: I'm going to prove that they're not.)

And if not, how do you know which "channeler" is telling the truth?
 
Is religion required to have a relationship with God?
I object to the idea that Jesus was the only avenue to God in the western world, at any point in time.
You may be forgetting a fairly major and long-lasting campaign involving burning or drowning any persons who DIDN'T see the need for Jesus as the only avenue... :D
 
I'm not forgetting anything.

Forcing people to say something doesn't mean they believe it.
If it isn't socially acceptable, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
I'm not forgetting anything.

Forcing people to say something doesn't mean they believe it.
If it isn't socially acceptable, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
When you kill them it does.

For the better part of a thousand years it was death to try to have any religion except The Religion and even then you better do it precisely as the mucky-mucks say or you get drowned or burned.

I'm questioning your addition of, "at any point in time" - it seems to me it was pretty much impossible to have any other​ view of how to have a relationship with God for an extended period.
 
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