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Harm Reduction IVing without micron filter

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disclaimer: i do not know if this is actually harm reducing. it's just based on my personal experience and observation, however should i be wrong about this, feel free to close/delete this thread. again, this is solely based on my subjective experience.

everyone on BL should know by now the importance of micron filters for safe shooting, however, i've often found myself without one and still had the profound desire to iv. now, if you take your harm reduction seriously, you'll just choose a different ROA. i know though that if i want to shoot i'll probably go ahead with it regardless, and i'm assuming alot of people on these forums have a similar attitude.
now, i know it's common to use cotton to filter an injection solution. i've done this, and found it to be a pretty shitty method of filtering a shot, an old drug acquaintance of mine showed me an alternative: using cigarette filters. not the filters out of cigarettes, but the kind you buy for roll-ups. i don't know if this actually makes a difference, but he claimed that they were finer and thus better. anyway, how i do it when i don't have a micron: prepare shot of whatever substance. have your hands wiped down with isopropyl, as well as whatever place you'll place your shot. put a filter onto needle, draw injection solution through it into syringe. when most of the solution is in the syringe, mash down the filter into your cooking receptacle (i use a thimble to cook up, where this works excellent). i use the plastic casing over the needle for this. rub with isopropyl beforehand. take second filter, mash into the first. draw whatever little liquid is left into the syringe. now, i've often injected the solution at this point, however, for the best result prep a second syringe by removing the plunger, putting yet another cigarette filter (it should be rubbed between your fingers to roughen it up, don't forget the isopropyl) into the second syringe, replace plunger . transfer liquid into second syringe, strain liquid through the filter back into the first syringe.
this, in my experience, produces a solution superior to one simply filtered through cotton. it's a bit more work but i've never had any adverse reactions using this method. again: no substitute for a micron, and only my personal experience. may not actually be harm reducing, and i just typed a load of bullshit. i cannot say for sure.

i debated quite a while whether to post this. in the end i figured if it actually is harm reducing, as i believe it to be, than it's probably okay to share. if someone here with more knowledge on the subjects sees any flaws in my methodology or if cigarette filters actually are worse than cotton for some reason, well, i did post this with the best intentions.
 
Not to be rude but this sounds like you'd lose alot of drug. If it's in the cooker, and you push it through...isnt it gonna draw up some of the solution? Plus if you squeeze it out dont it defeat the whole purpose? Im not going to ride you and tell you theres no substitue for microns (your going ot have about 30 people doing that soon enough) but ya. I don't see this as an effective filtering idea.
 
all i'm saying is that in my experience this method produces a cleaner solution than using cotton swabs. that is all. i explicitly stated that it's not meant as an alternative to using a micron.
and no, the amounts of drugs you lose are negliglable.
 
I just don't see how this is better. I mean your notl osing a LITTLE drug like normally your losing like a quater of it. Cotton soaks up alot. so does a cig filter. So if your pushing it through the cotton, into the cooker with it, your losing like a quater of the drug...honestly...this is one of the wrost filtering process's I heard of. If this is how you do it send me your filters lol.

Besides Im pretty sure I was trying NOT to ride you about the micron thing. I even said that. Now i am. Hey...you should use a micron...it's alot better.
 
well ive heard of it done alot ,ur not gonna get as much insolubles (sp) as u would with pills ,so just filter twice with cotton ,there arent alot of people that actually know about micron filters in this world ,i mean more than u would think but most users arent gonna wait to get home to filter properly when they are about to shit themselves...
 
i have no definitive proof that this is in any way better nor did i claim that. i think i made that pretty clear. and why the fuck do i have to repeat myself? In. My. Opinion. It. Produces. A. Better. Solution.. i mean, jesus i'm not even claiming that this is de facto better. this is why i hesitated to post this.
also, common sense sort of tells me that cigarette filters, being specifically made to filter things (hint: the name), smoke, might actually be also better at filtering liquids than cotton wads. and after running the solution through the last step i usually i end up with something that seems not too damaging to shoot. i have shot up maybe a hundred times using this method, and never had any adverse effects, which i know proves nothing, but i thought that just maybe this may be less harmful than using a piece of cotton. i posted this on the off chance that it might be helpful. i do not fucking care how you shoot your drugs.
and yeah, you probably end up losing marginally more than with a cotton swab, but in my experience the difference is so small, it hardly matters at all.
 
if you know a website that ships micron filters to germany, that does not require a credit card, i will order some today. believe it or not, they've been quite hard to get lately, and i don't know a single IV user around here who even knows that such a thing exists. it's sad, i know.
 
yeah well, recently i've thinking that filtering is for pussies. real men shoot their dope as it is with huge gauge needles!
 
Alrighty since this isn't exactly HR, we don't have a way of verifying this produces any cleaner a solution than cotton. If you would like this merged with the micron megathread, PM me.

P.S. using extra-absorbant tampons and the like are probably way too absorbant for purposes of retrieving active ingredient.
 
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