Yeah, okay. I think you realize people think this is stupid and dangerous. And I would not deny the dangerous part. But I suggest that this is an issue of personal choice. It could certainly be stupid as well, but if you're informed, and you want to do it, then *do it safely* and it is merely reckless, not stupid. Each of us must make our own decisions.
It is suggested that to warn you off entirely is harm reduction, as per:
to encourage you to do something this ridiculous/pointless is not in the spirit of harm reduction. full agonist hallucinogens like DOx group etc. have low margin of error in overdose safety. nBOME's are kind of displaying a similar unforgiving nature.
if mdma was only just made a year ago and you were wanting to IV it i would say the same thing. when something is unresearched why try taking it in the most risky and dangerous route possible? even if the drug experience is fine IV always carries a risk of infection as you are breaking the barrier we have to protect ourselves. basically unless you are going to get an amazing rush there is no point. even if you are going to get a juicy rush its still very risky as a route of drug administration
Well I think that ensuring somebody is going to do something dangerous as safely as possible is harm reduction too. Maybe this is because i shoot heroin for a living, maybe not, I tend to believe that people can and will do reckless things anyway, no matter the number of people trying to dissuade them, and the best way to improve that is to ensure they perform an overall reckless act with as much caution as possible. And you seem to have the hard on for IVing 5-HT2a full-agonists with steep dose response profiles, so therefor, you need to go and read up as much as you can on
safe IV technique, and then *actually practice* those techniques.
Then you're going to practice with sterile saline solution using
micron filters. Because I really don't think you want a half-subcutaneous half-intramuscular mess of NBOMe hydrochlorides in your arm from blowing your shit. Or to discover a massive phobia of needles when you've got a rig in your vein and the blood rushes in as a dark red mushroom cloud. And then, you're gonna go buy some powdered NBOMes, because there's no way to know what the dose in each blotter is, and god knows what ink and whatever else crap they put in, they including the manufacturers of the paper itself (bleaching, maybe, certainly processing, don't know what chemicals but you shouldn't shoot them if they're there, and if its cotton or paper either way you risk shooting microscopic cotton or paper bits too).
When you buy the NBOMe(s) you will need to get at least two hundred milligrams, and then you will need to buy a proper milligram balance should you lack one now, with calibration weights. This is so that you can put a full 200 mg in solution. Look at it this way, if you get 10 mg and put it in 10 ml of water, that is a 1 mg/ml. But milligram balances can be off by 5 mg, so your solution could be up to 1.5 mg/ml. Whereas if you make a 200 mg solution in 200 ml of water, the worst you could do would be 1.025 mg/ml. Hell, I'd say get 500 mg and make a 500 ml solution, make that at worst a 1.01 mg/ml solution at worst, if you value your safety at all.
Now that we have the appropriate tools, we have practiced IVing multiple times successfully, and we have a 1 mg/ml
solution, weighed by
competant milligram balance, we're going to take ten milliliters of the solution measured with one of your syringes, which will be marked in 100ths of a milliliter for accuracy, and put it into a new container. Now add 90 more milliliters of sterile saline solution. You'll now have a 100 microgram/ml solution. This is what you will be injecting.
You will titrate your doses, beginning seriously low, because this is serious business. Start at 5 mics. This will be five of the 100th of a milliliter gradations on one of the syringes. You're going to take the rig full of 5 hundredths of a ml of this twice-diluted solution and fill the rig with an additional 85 units (what you call the hundredth of a mL gradations on a syringe) of pure saline, *not* with more NBOMe-laced saline. I say this because surely you will have your various bottles – sterile saline, 1 mg/ml saline, and 100 mic/ml saline – *labelled clearly*, correct? Correct.
So you will be withdrawing only 5 micrograms at 1 mic/unit (100 mics/mL) and then filling the rig up the rest of the way to the 90 unit position. This will ensure that this potentially caustic solution is as dilute as possible. I have no idea if it is caustic or not; best to assume it is. You will then inject this 5 microgram dose as you have injected your practice placebo shots. You will of course rotate your injection-use veins, and use alcohol swabs, and micron filter before shooting.
Nobody knows the active dose with any precision; one report on erowid doesn't cut it. So you will titrate up from 5 mics as follows:
5, 10, 15, 25, 37, 50, 60, 70, 80, etc.
By that point you should be feeling it. You will wait at least two weeks between shots to ensure that a sub-active dose may not have produced tolerance, which would give you the picture that the drug is weaker than it really is, with potentially fatal consequences if you then lose tolerance and take another shot.
I don't think you'll be having a lot of fun, and you may end up at a very intense trip, so read
this and
this in case you ++++ by accident or kill your ego, and
this, for bad trips.
If you are serious about doing this, you must do this as I specify. I am an eight-year IV user and daily heroin addict with experience IVing: I have no tracks. I rotate and use safe technique, so that 2 shots at a minimum per day * 365 days a year * 8 years = at least 8,760 shots total in my lifetime, and surely many more as some days it's as many as six shots, has left no traces. There is a reason: safe IV technique. If you care at all about your life and especially your family and friends, who would likely be very upset if you OD on a relatively unknown, ultrapotent full-agonist psychedelic drug, you will follow these directions exactly.
You *will not* use blotter dropped in water to make your solution, unless you're an utter moron. And since we're having a civil discussion now like you wanted about what you need to do to be safe here, I'm going on the assumption that you're just reckless, not moronic, as per my first paragraph.
I also debated whether to even include the proper volumes needed to make a 100 mic/ml solution, as anybody considering this should be totally capable of such math themselves without the slightest bit of help. But if I'm going to explain how to try not to die doing this then I may as well be exacting.
I also am hesitant to even post this because you should be able to figure out how to do this safely yourself if you're actually going to consider doing it; if you can't, you're not mature enough and responsible enough and most of all resourceful and self-sufficient enough to be doing this, but then again this is a harm *reduction* forum so I would rather spoonfeed safety tips than not have done so just on the off chance you actually do this. I'm not trying to be insulting here either, just being honest.
Fellow PD people, feel free to add your own requirements for safe use, but do not come back at me with nonsense that I'm being dangerous, please. I will not get angry but I will be disappointed. It should be clear I do not advocate doing this at all, I am simply ensuring that if this fellow persists he will not surely die and may live to continue being reckless, as safely as possible, see?
I also suggest you read
this about solubility and making solutions, and search more using TFSE to read up on ensuring that rather insoluble NBOMes may be made into a solution and how to ensure a solution stays sterile via additives.
Good luck, you will need it, and godspeed.
