Opioids IV'ing Hyrdromorphone Instant Release

[BackSeatSuicide]

I just got hooked up with a few of these 4MG Dilaudid/Hyrdomorphone IR pills, and I've heard great things about IV'ing them. I don't know about this exact brand, but I meant iv'ing Dilaudid in general, I did it a couple times with those pain in the ass Exalgo ERs, but it was very dangerous cause even tho you can get it to break down, it was a pretty thick solution, but I didn't know better at the time cause I tried them within the first week of ever shooting up, but regardless of being a pain in the ass to break up and get into a syringe, the RUSH from the Dilaudid was like nothing I've ever felt. And I've been wanting to feel that again for a long time.

I lost my hook up on pretty much everything except 30mg Oxycodone/Roxycodone IRs and 60mg MS Contins and 60mg OP Oxycontins, and the only one of those I am able to shoot up safely is the 30mg Oxycodone IRs, which I love doing, awesome lil rush (not as big compared to Dilaudid obviously, but they feel just like heroin to me, the high doesn't quite last as long as heroin, but it last long enough and has the same rush, to me anyways.

ON TO MY POINT ! I was wondering what the best way for prepping these are. Here's a link to the ones I got - http://www.drugs.com/imprints.php?action=search&imprint=4+M&color=12&shape=24 (its the one on the left, the one on the right is codeine so ignore that lol) they are 4mg IR Hyrdromorphone Hydrochloride. I just did one of em, and I just dropped the pill (i kept it whole, didn't smash it up) and put 1 syringe full of water on it (I use the Insulin 30g 1cc/1ml syringes) heat it up til it boiled and let it boil just for a few seconds, so that it boils off any bacteria in the water or on the pill, and it helps the pill dissolve way faster. I then stirred it around for a bit so that all that was left was a lil bit of powder on hte bottom, which that powder is the binder I am assuming, and I don't want that. I then dropped in my cotton and sucked it up, and banged it. It definitely got me high, but the rush was pretty weak, and I am thinking that it's cause 4mg is a really low dose, when i was doing the exalgos, they were 16mg, and i would do a lil over half of it at a time, and it gave me that huge amazing rush like i was saying earlier, so I think I shoulda done both of the 4mg pills at once. But either way I waned to check to see what you guys thought, and make sure that I am doing it the safest way possible and if not, get some opinions on how to prep it better to not only be safer, but to yield as good as a solution in the syringe as possible. I am pretty sure I am doing it safely, the only thing that would make it better would be using a Micron Filter, but I can find one except on the net, and the ones I found on like amazon that are for syringes, I am not sure which one to get.

Anyways, like i said, Just wanted some opinions to see if I am correct in thinking I shoulda done both at the same time to get the rush I wanted (I have a very high tolerance, I take 5 x 60mg Morphines (Oral), 3x 30mg Oxycodone/Roxycodone (IV) daily at the very least, sometimes more, but sometimes, around the time my buddy i get em from starts to run low before his refill I have to take less, but normally i take at least the amount I quoted. and sometimes I take some xanax or somas on top of it. And I wanted to see if there was any other stuff I should do, besides obviously using a micron filter, that I could do to make sure I am doing this as safe as I can with what I got. I also always use a fresh needle, sometimes if I plan on shooting up twice, one right after the other, i will just use the same needle, but never more then that. And I always clean the injection site before and after with alcohol swabs, and I let it air dry, i dont wipe it away cause that defeats the purpose of cleaning it, cause it just gets dirty again if you try to dry it with your hand or a towel etc etc. So yea, those be my questions. Thanks in advance for any helpful replies.

BE SAFE OUT THERE FOLKS !

 

[BackSeatSuicide]

no one has any thoughts on this or any suggestions to help a brother out !

 

[Captain.Heroin]

heat it up til it boiled and let it boil just for a few seconds, so that it boils off any bacteria in the water or on the pill, and it helps the pill dissolve way faster.

Heating your shot only encourages inactive ingredients to become soluble in the solution; it does not kill bacteria, and hydromorphone will dissolve in cold water just fine.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

You don't want to heat it, as the hydromorphone itself should dissolve in water, and you can learn about micron filters, where to get them, and how to use them in the Micron Filtering Megathread. Another tip a lot of people say is helpful to get all the drug out of the solution is to do a "wash" a couple times by adding more water, then mixing the solution, then drawing it up (make sure this then goes through the filter of course).

 

[lptrax]

why can't you boot the morphine?

 

[Kid Amine]

why can't you boot the morphine?

from my experience, morphine gels/globs up when it cools, maybe it was the pill rather than the drug, but you cant suck em up thru a small needle, and heating them results in globs of oily looking shit forming when they cool that will clog a rig in a matter of seconds. not safe at all.

IV'ing hydromorphone IR, done it way too many times, wish I had never messed with it. If you get access to any appreciable amount of them you are going to wind up with a very high tolerance and no money very quickly.

 

[rxpirate]

you can boot those others, with the morphs you throw in a pinch of EPSOM salt with the water, heat, drop in the pill throw the heat on another second and it will fall apart, the op's you have to crsip them, look it up on here, more to describe than i want to get into, but i love those things, the first time will take you some time to do right but i can break those down and shoot in 5 mins. With the Dilaudid (and i don't suggest this, just what i do) most of them can just be crushed and dumped right into the rig without having to draw it up. Never seen one that wouldn't break down decent with just cold water, never heat. But again i don't suggest the back loading, at least filter it.

 

[BackSeatSuicide]

ok this time I prepped two 4 milligram instants. These ones were better then the last 4mg, these ones weren't generics, just straight up Dilllies. I used cold water, this time, was super clean as always and cleaned the injection site (i know i talk about my cleanliness every time, but its because if i don't seem to mention it every time, someone bitches as assumes i wasn't clean about it, I never reuse needles more then once, and the one time i do reuse a needle, is only if I am shooting up twice back to back, one immediately after the other, other then that i always use a fresh needle)

ANYWAYS, I used two 4mg this time, and after it completely dissolved, i let it sit for ahwile this time and stirred it quite a bit. Slammed it and still not much rush. Except this time, which I know I didn't miss, cause after slamming all of it, i drew back on the needle again before moving at all and i still drew blood, and plus I can always tell if i miss, a bubble always appears and it hurts as its being injected which is the sign to stop cause i am missing. But anyways, even tho I didn't;t miss, my skin around the injection site is all red blotchiness and itches a bit. I've had this reaction before without missing but that was with heroin, and it went away after a bit, so I am assuming this is the same. I feel high and good and everything, rush was weak like i said. So I don't get what I am doing wrong here. if half of a 16mg Exalgo would give me a hell of a rush, then why wont 8mg of instant Dilaudid do the same. Since the last time I have done a lot more with needles (which is ending soon cause i leave for treatment at the end of the month, i have only been using a needle since October and that is long enough for me, i broke the promise to myself to never go the needle route but shit happens apparently)

but as i said, I've shot up a lot more since the last time i did the Exalgo, which the Exalgo was the first thing i ever shot, up in my life back in October, so maybe my tolerance is too high now. I can shoot like 2 or 3, sometimes i've even done 4, of the 30mg Oxycodone's in one shot. I can do a 30$ bag of decent H in one shot, so besides thinking i am prepping these wrongs, having too high a tolerance and needing more then just 8mg is my only other idea....What do you guys think ?

 

[BackSeatSuicide]

oh and the blotchiness not only happened to me after shooting Heroin a couple times, but also Morphine Sulfate. I think its histamine reaction, cause like i said, i know i didn't miss, and every other time i do miss (which happened a lot at first lol before i got used to it and leaned proper technique and cleanliness etc etc) i just get a bubble/bump where the solution builds up, and it hurts, no skin reaction, except one timke with Heroin when i missed but its cause it was cut with something my skin didn't like and obviously these dilaudid arent cut with household items.