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IV Oramorph

james bann

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my pet rat has a few bottles of oramorph 10ml=5mg and it was wondering if its possible to iv it .methadone is designed so u can't its too thick-but oramorph (morphine sulfate) is a bit thinner -can anything be done?
 
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It won't be sterile, I don't think anyone is going to tell you that this is a good idea. You'd also have to find a big old syringe to fit a worthwhile dose in. I'm going to move this to BDD, where I'm sure others will recommend that you don't do it. Plugging (rectal administration) is a safer bet. btw, it is normal to give your thread a descriptive title, rather than using your username. I've retitled this one for you. We also don't use SWIM/my pet rat/any other woefully pathetic attempt to conceal your identity on BL, if you don't want to admit to having oramorph then don't talk about it at all. PM me if you have any questions.
 
It's possible to IV anything that fits in a syringe, but having said that i would definitely not IV that stuff... 10ML = 5mg??? That would be ridiculous.
 
I thought Oramorph was 5ml = 10mg? But either way, yeah, depending on what dose you were wanting you use, it would probably require a larger than normal syringe. The more pressing issue is whether or not injecting Oramorph would be reasonably safe. In addition to morphine sulphate, Oramorph contains 10% ethanol (alcohol), a lot of sucrose, corn syrup, water, and the preservatives methyl parahydroxybenzoate and propyl parahydroxybenzoate. Let's go through each ingredient:

ethanol (alcohol) - The big risk with injecting ethanol is overdose, which can happen much more easily than with drinking. It might burn and be bad for veins as well.
sucrose - Sucrose is never normally injected in a medical setting. The reason is that sucrose is a disaccharide; 2 monosaccharides joined together (glucose + fructose), and since a disaccharide normally never reaches our bloodstream without being degraded into two monosaccharides first, our cells are unprepared for it and there is no mechanism to get the sucrose inside the cell. As to whether it poses any dangers to inject it, I really have no idea.
corn syrup - This one (and the ethanol) is probably the one I am most concerned about. I worry that injecting corn syrup could possibly thicken the blood, clog veins/arteries, or cause insulin imbalances.
methyl parahydroxybenzoate - Sources say that methyl parahydroxybenzoate is considered non-toxic to inject, but it is normally present in medications meant for injection in very small amounts. Larger amounts might cause side effects such as pain, but I have no idea how much of it is Oramorph. There is also the risk of an allergic reaction.
propyl parahydroxybenzoate - As with methyl parahydroxybenzoate, this one is also found in injectable solutions and is considered generally safe for injection in small amounts, but there is the risk of an allergic reaction.

TLDR: I wouldn't risk injecting this stuff, it's not worth the risks.
 
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