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IV Morphine dose/Questions about IV use

I would recommend that you don't go above 20mg. I can't be positive if that will give you a "rush" but it will certainly be enough considering you haven't taken opiates in awhile. You will want an antihistamine, as Morphine can make you very itchy and possibly sick to your stomach. IV Morphine should make you feel nicely sedated & give you warmth throughout your body. You'll get pins and needles and should feel "heavy". Its much better than oral.
 
Although I'm still against he use this high potency vial, he's gung ho. I would start at a dose of 10 mg simply for the fact that your tolerance to opioids is low to begin with, you haven't used opiates in a long time as you said and you don't have experience with IV use.

You can always use more, never less though.

Have fun, but be safe.
 
ColourfulKronos said:
What i'm looking for is to experience the rush, with just 1 shot. And is the pins and needles effect the same as regular pins and needles? At the minute i'm thinking 15mg in a shot. But like i say i only want to do 1 shot and i dont want to be left underwhelmed, i only wanna do this once, i only wanna inject once, and get the full experience out of that one shot. Is this possible without it being too risky?
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I'm not going to lie you're not going to only do this once!! I hear so many people say this and then they're shooting up regularly now. Seriously I had morphine injected once because I had extreme pain when I went to the emergency room and let me tell you the rush of that was so good. It took my pain away. I was knocked out though right after cause it was so strong. The scary thing is I feel it right in my veins on my hand (where they injected) as I talk about this but yeah I'm not addicted but if I ever got a chance to do it again I probably would. So don't inject I'm telling you this is not a good idea.
 
I really advise against it, but that's just me. 50mg/2ml vial of morphine sulfate in the hands of someone with a low opioid tolerance to begin with, he hasn't done any opioids in a long time, and he's never IV'd. I don't even know how he's going to titrate the dose to get a 10 mg starter dose.

10 mg is the highest he should start with and then go from there.
 
I think that he can handle a little more than 10mg if he could handle 120mg Morphine with 60mg of oxycodone and benzos. He said he hasn't used in awhile so he shouldn't go much higher. 10mg is the dose they give you in the hospital unless you tell them you have a tolerance ahead of time and generally that dose doesn't give you a rush. But that is a safe dose, I just think he could go a little bit higher, but not much. Just my opinion.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
I think that he can handle a little more than 10mg if he could handle 120mg Morphine with 60mg of oxycodone and benzos. He said he hasn't used in awhile so he shouldn't go much higher. 10mg is the dose they give you in the hospital unless you tell them you have a tolerance ahead of time and generally that dose doesn't give you a rush. But that is a safe dose, I just think he could go a little bit higher, but not much. Just my opinion.
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Yeah, I guess 15 mg could be a safe dose also, 20 mg though is iffy. I don't think he'll OD and die on 20 mg, but I think he'll get knocked out and wont feel the experience. Morphine is heavy on the sedation and the respiratory depression. Morphine is heavy in ALL aspects of its effects everything from euphoria to constipation. That's why heroin has such a reputation - because it's a morphine prodrug and morphine has not only a high incidence of side effects, but they are usually intense in nature. Everything the histamine-related effects, euphoria, sedation, respiratory depression, miosis, the whole shebang.
 
lmc422 said:
Im totally agree with the 15-20mg to start with and another 5mg isnt really that much. I would say do what you feel comfortable doing. The concensus seems to be 15-20mg. So I would deff go with that dose to start with. If your not happy with the results do a bit more at your next dose/shot. You have enough to test the waters with for your first shot. Considering everything you have said about your use, tolerance and nausea I would deff start with 15-20mg for your 1st shot. I also understand you want to experience the rush. I get that. But you really need to stay safe. Theres no doubt in my mind that at 15mg you will feel the rush!! Then next time you will know if you can or want to do more. Its not like other opiets in the rush department. If you wait at the very least an hour you will feel the same pins and needles rush the second time. Thats why I like morphine so much! I know that each time I do a shot I will have my pins and needles rush.
Let us know how things went and what mg you did!
:)
P.S. Have you checked out the morphine mega thread? Theres alot of great info in there!!!!
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Cheers for the info =D, i'll start with 15mg i think then. I've got only 1 vial, and though i only wanted to shoot once and have an insanely good rush, this cant really be done safely so i'll test the waters (read: jump in the middle of the pool) with 15mg realistically if theres 35mg left in the vial that'l probably go also depending on the more info i read.

Another few questions are how long would it be safe to redose? And with the redose i presume its a bad idea to do a higher dosage. Also, once i've cracked open the vial does it have a time limit on how long before it degrades or anything? Though if i do decide to redose and its safe, i'll do it all in a night, as i want this experience to be a one time thing. Which (skeptical or not as most people will be.. also famous last words) it will be.

Last thing, when injecting:
1) is a tourniquet nessecary? as i have bulging veins very close to the surface

2) do you push the needle right in & up the vein as far as itl' go? Or just enough into the vein so you can shoot & be sure you've hit. I cant seem to find any info on that, i presume its an obvious one but i want to be sure :)
And finally,
3) i'm right handed, and much steadier with my right hand but my veins are much more prominent on my right and thus easier to hit. Would experienced iv'ers reccomend injecting into my left arm since my right hands much steadier, or using my left to inject into my right as the veins are much easier to hit.

Cheers again for all the replies and advice
 
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A tourniquet is not necessary altho may make it easier.


If i was you, i'd lift some weights and get my blood pressure up, then find the veins on your left arm with your fingers.

Follow your vein upto the crook of your elbow and thats your spot.

Now when IVing, the aim of the game is to register
You know what that means right?

What you do is just barely pierce the skin, pull back slightly on the plunger so you have small air bubbles in the syringe.
That is not air so don't worry, that is a vacuum, the vacuum will pull blood into the syringe when you are in.

that is registering

you'll likely have to register atleast 3 times during most shots because the pressure you're putting on the plunger is pushing back against your vein, sliding it off of the needle, registering confirms you're still in the vein and pulls it back in if you've slid out.
 
So as long as i pull a bit of blood back into the syringe it means i'm in the vein and its okay to inject? The needle doesn't need to be fully in?

I do weight train occasionally and stay in good shape, i'm planning to do some weights right before to draw out the veins further.

Also, the syringe is 3ml, and i'll be using about 0.6ml of the vial, should i draw a bit of water into the syringe also? The morphine liquid is red, and a bit of water to dilute it may make it easier to see if i've registered.
 
nope i've had times where the needle was barely half a cm or 5mm into my skin, depends on the vein..etc.

If you're a bit shaky from lifting the weights just take some deep breaths until it slows and get to it..

No if the solution is see through it shouldnt be a problem, blood is opaque and very difficult too see through... you'll know when you've registered.

but yes if you feel its necessary to dilute it by all means.
 
^Aye
Did it today, and gotta say i was disappointed. Err'd on the side of caution and did a 15mg shot as i probably had trace amounts of benzos in my system, then a mate had the rest. I didnt get a rush, wasnt particularly euphoric but do feel opiated, yaknow warm nd that. also very nauseous and itchy ha, even though i had some antihistamines. Maybe its cause i had a small amount of MD earlier that it wasnt that euphoric, ahh i dunno.

Took about 12 attempts to hit a vein aswel haha :p. Got there in the end though.

I'm gonna take 20mg diaz so i can sleep, can never sleep on opis, maybe not be the best idea ever but with my benzo tolerance i can't forsee any problems. I shot about 2 and a half hours ago, nd the warmness has kinda left me feeling just a bit cushioned with a headache and still nauseous
 
Oh Im sorry ur experience wasnt great :( I think its the antihistamine that killed ur experience. The one time I took an antihistamine was bc my alergys were bothering me I couldnt feel the rush from my shot all day!!! It was annoying! So that is the culprit that ruined your morphine rush experience. Sorry. Atleast you have ur benzos tho!
 
Possible,, wish it had killed of the damn nausea or itching then (& it ws only a low dose i was on, i took another after id shot)! Ugh even with benzos i've barely been able to sleep, and i dont wanna push the dose more than 30mg + 15 midaz

Plus i'd had a tiny amount of bupe earlier n the day (buerenorphine, NOT suboxone so no naltrexone or owt in it) so maybe that affected it. Woke up with a stonking headache, shaking like a mofo (but i sleep with the windows open) and just generally feel like shit and my nose hurts from itching! haha. Also, i'd had ket & md, a while before.
Reckon 0.2-0.4mg of bupe would sort out the headache etc? Or is that a stupid idea, more opiates, even if it is bupe haha

It wasnt too bad, for an hour or 2 after the shot i was nicely almost nodding, still with an itch and nausea though. Felt like the feeling of a high dose of (slightly nicer than) bupe that i'd snorted, not shot morphine. Still, can't complain! Gonna take another midaz and try get a few more hours kip, god dammit one of these days i'll successfully quit benzos!

Anyways cheers for all the advice & replies in this thread
 
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Hey! As I mentioned earlier I'm new, have studied site but can only seem to hit 'reply' but just can't 'post'. Any advice?
Also, pills with wax covering- (Move this post if necessary)-Here's a foolproof way to IV after getting rid of wax.
Lick the coating off for about 3 seconds only. Dry. Crush as usual. Heat in full capful of water. Next- Hold the full spoon against an ice cube and wait until a film starts to appear on the mixture. Take a cue tip with the cotton removed, gently pull it over the film and the wax and other filler will come off. You are left with pure oxy to draw up into syringe via a cotton-ball. Been done many times with no ill effects.
TX
 
1) This threads about K
2) The k came in pure vials

Ahh i wish id done more haha, so disappointed by the experience
 
If you had bupe earlier in the day, then yes that most definitely affected the experience. Bupe is a powerful and long lasting opiate blocker. Even if you only did a "small amount" any amount is enough to block another opiate used later the same day. I've experienced this myself, using buprenex so no naloxone in the picture at all.
 
is there anyone in here that can give me some kind of idea about how long Morphine stays in your system? I've been taking suboxen/2mg a day - to kick my 5 year H addiction and today i decided to IV a coupe of 30mg Morphine pills to have a cheater day and get a little high. well i was wondering about how long i should wait before taking another suboxen so as to not precipitate my withdrawal and send myself into hell, any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
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