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Harm Reduction IV Methadone dosage whilst on MMT

Chris84

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I've been on Methadone Maintenance for quite a while and am down to 30mg a day. I've never IV'd Methadone before, but have IV'd nearly every drug I've tried. I'll be getting a weeks worth of 5mg methadone pills next week for a holiday and wanted to know what dose I should do in each shot and how long will it last. I'm not looking for a rush, as I know methadone doesn't produce one, even when injected, I just prefer to inject my drugs. I only have enough to do 30mg a day, so do I do it one shot or a few shots spread throughout the day? Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
there is no benefit to injecting methadone, it is very well absorbed

if you are insistent on injecting, use a micron filter, and start with about 1/2 of your oral dose and work upwards. be aware lots of people have unintentionally od'd on methadone,
 
Definitely don't inject it without using a micron filter. The pills almost always have some damaging particles in them - 5mg pills have a lot of binders and fillers. I would not bother with injecting it, it's really not much stronger and isn't a big part of the point of being on methadone to get you away from injecting drugs?

But if you do decide to inject it go with half your oral dose like sekio said because we can't predict how it will affect you IV'd.
 
Thanks for the replies. As I said in my original post I'm used to IVing most drugs, so I've got used to only injecting things that have been micron filtered, it was the dosage I was worried about, as I don't want to OD. The only other thing I need to know is will it effect how long it lasts as oral methadone holds me 24hrs, I'm guessing it won't last that long when injected?
 
it will last equally as long

highly doubt that. Never heard of a drug that lasted just as long IV as oral.

Also I remember reading something about someone gettin some AWFUL disease or something from shooting methadone. dont think that person was using a micron filter tho.
 
there is no benefit to injecting methadone, it is very well absorbed

if you are insistent on injecting, use a micron filter, and start with about 1/2 of your oral dose and work upwards. be aware lots of people have unintentionally od'd on methadone,

This.

If you want to keep shooting up... why stay on maintenance..? You're just wasting your time.
 
highly doubt that. Never heard of a drug that lasted just as long IV as oral.

Also I remember reading something about someone gettin some AWFUL disease or something from shooting methadone. dont think that person was using a micron filter tho.

IV methamp lasts significantly longer than oral, off topic but yeah it happens.


I agree that iving the methadone is pretty pointless, why not just get some dope?
 
How long methadone lasts depends on how much you use. Effects of lower doses are terminated (by the plasma level falling below a certain point) due to redistribution, effects of higher doses are terminated (by the plasma level falling below a certain point) due to elimination. In addition, different effects have different durations, for example duration of a "high" or analgesia is going to be different from the amount of time it prevents withdrawal for. And on top of all that it varies from person to person. Generally speaking, methadone should have a fairly similar length of action with different routes of administration though.
 
When I have injected methadone, I thought that I needed to do at least 30-40mg per shot, because 30mg seems to be my threshold for getting somethign that resembles a rush, so at those doses and above I got a slight rush and it would really hold me well. However the rush is not a heroin type rush - it is more of a 'ahhh, finally my receptors are saturated' rush, a releif rather than a rush. When IV'ing methadone, it seems the half-life is greatly compromised. This is perhaps due to fact that there is latent release of methadone from fat tissue when ingested orally, making it last longer, whereas when injected in goes straight to the receptors and then there is nothing left in the depots of your body (pure guessing here). But 3-4 hours in after a shot I would get really groggy or tired, and since then I have figured out that low doses spaced throughout the day hold me much better. So when that was realized, there was absolutely no reason to IV, as at 2.5-5mg doses there is absolutely no rush, just a quick onset, maybe half an hour quicker than the oral peak. So just eat the dones. If you must try to IV, try it once or so, but be safe, guage your own threshold level by starting low. You will soon realize it is nothing but a needle fixation that makes you want to IV the methadone, and nothing to do with onset/BA or otherwise.
 
Thanks to all the helpful comments, but don't know why some people bother posting just to tell me not to do it, or even worse to just get some heroin. I can't do heroin because that shows up on drug tests and I'm not thinking of switching from oral to IV as if you actually read my original post you would of seen I will only have a weeks worth of pills to inject. If you've ever been on methadone maintenance you will know methadone is there to stop you using, but more importantly to stop people committing crime to pay for their habit. Also heroin varies in quality so much what holds you one day might not hold you the next, whereas with methadone you know the dose that holds you and thus can avoid withdrawals. I stay on maintenance because I can't afford heroin or oxy everyday and just for one week I am trying out injecting my methadone as I have needle fixation. If they took everyone who still uses a needle off maintenance there would be hardly anyone left on it! I can't get more methadone pills after this week is up as I only get them for holidays, so this isn't going to be a regular thing. I micron filter everything I inject so damage that way is unlikely, all I wanted to know was how much shorter it will last when injected and how much I should put in each shot to hold me through the day, so thanks to bwanajzj for giving me the info I needed. Could you also tell me how much water you used to dissolve 5mg for each shot? And would making the water slightly acidic help more methadone to dissolve in less water?
 
I just dont get why you would inject it, its bringing you that much closer to doing dope again, in my opinion.

1 ml should be plenty, and i believe it will be fine in just water.
 
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