I have not injected anything myself, but I have been injected with IV drugs twice before 2 different surgeries I had. (one was on my wrist and one was a wisdom tooth removal) They first inject you with IV midazolam and you can feel that kick in then they inject you with IV fentanyl and you can feel that kick in then they give you another syringe full of fentanyl and you can feel yourself slowly drift into unconsciousness which is what a lethal injection must feel like. The thing is when they injected me I never felt any kind of "rush" or anything like heroin users talk about which makes me kinda think they are exaggerating or something. Is this all there is to IV drug use? It does not seem all that much better than other routes of drug use like snorting, smoking or even oral.
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IV injecting, it dosen't seem that great, no rush?
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Oxy_Ghost
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Well I've been snorting oxy's for a few years now, I had never tried banging pills or anything but not too long ago(like a couple weeks ago) I tried some black tar for the first time. My fiancé shot me up and before she even go the needle out of my arm I felt a huge rush come over me and it was like instant nod, the BEST high I've ever had. The only time is ever had a high anywhere near that good was the very first time I tried oxy and even that high wasn't as good as the H high. Im sure that when the docs IV you that they're not gonna give you so much that your gonna be really fucked up since they're trying to take the pain away, not get you high. So if you tried H than I'm sure you'd feel the rush and stuff everyone talks about.
Fent isn't really recreational, not to most people anyway. IV midazolam is worthy, but really, for the most part, it's pointless to inject benzos.
No, that's not all there is to IV drug use, but for damn sure, you don't want to find out! Probably every IV user ever, including myself, will tell you not to go that route, it's just not worth it. Seriously, all it does is increase bioavailability while reducing the duration of the high, which results in a massively increased tolerance, meaning you need more drugs, and more money, and you end up desperate, addicted, with a lovely fucking cycle of nasty withdrawals. Not to mention missing shots, getting cellulitis, having to go have infected abscesses lanced, and all the other joys of junkie life.
Sorry to be such a downer about it, but seriously, fuck IV drugs, ya heard?
No, that's not all there is to IV drug use, but for damn sure, you don't want to find out! Probably every IV user ever, including myself, will tell you not to go that route, it's just not worth it. Seriously, all it does is increase bioavailability while reducing the duration of the high, which results in a massively increased tolerance, meaning you need more drugs, and more money, and you end up desperate, addicted, with a lovely fucking cycle of nasty withdrawals. Not to mention missing shots, getting cellulitis, having to go have infected abscesses lanced, and all the other joys of junkie life.
Sorry to be such a downer about it, but seriously, fuck IV drugs, ya heard?
szuko000
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Not exactly sure what the real question is but no when things work out you get a good rush. Getting a rush depends on quality amount whether its the first of the day or the 5th. But if you have to ask then no theres a lot more to it then that. I cant speak from any experience at hospitals, never had a medical injection of anything other then fluids, but they probably try to avoid getting patients high. Not saying it can always be avoided but they probably dont need to go that far or use that drug most of the time.
Some words of advise either quit now or at the very least enjoy it while it lasts. Drug addicted relationships and then recovery are both extremely complicated and at times maddening. It would be in the best interest of you and your fiances relationship and future to stop now. I am only speaking from experience.
Best of luck!
Some words of advise either quit now or at the very least enjoy it while it lasts. Drug addicted relationships and then recovery are both extremely complicated and at times maddening. It would be in the best interest of you and your fiances relationship and future to stop now. I am only speaking from experience.
Best of luck!
Actually they give you so much fentanyl that you actually pass out, so it is a strong dose.
Bob Loblaw
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As stated, there isn't a whole lot gained from IVing a benzo & some people don't enjoy fentanyl.
IVing other drugs can provide a tremendous rush, but it opens one up to a whole new set of risks associated with drug use (HIV/hep C, abscesses, cotton fever, etc) in addition to greatly elevating the potential for addiction. It's definitely not something to be taken lightly.
IVing other drugs can provide a tremendous rush, but it opens one up to a whole new set of risks associated with drug use (HIV/hep C, abscesses, cotton fever, etc) in addition to greatly elevating the potential for addiction. It's definitely not something to be taken lightly.
Felonious Monk
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It depends on the situation too. In the OR when I'm given the fent shot to knock me out, there's so much going on and so much anxiety that I feel it but I can't really enjoy it, as I'm just trying to fall asleep. Besides the fact that fent doesn't have much of a rush anyway.
I got a morphine shot in the ER once and I didn't feel much rush from that either, but again, probably because I was in so much pain it was enough to take away the pain but I was so uncomfortable I just wanted to feel better.
I got a morphine shot in the ER once and I didn't feel much rush from that either, but again, probably because I was in so much pain it was enough to take away the pain but I was so uncomfortable I just wanted to feel better.
SteeleyJ
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Alot of times in a hospital when they use IV push meds they do it slowly to reduce the risk of negative side effects. Also typically the doses in a hospital are lower than street drugs. So on the street you push a large amount of drugs into you fast, causing a rush of opioid activity.
And listen to everyone about the dangers of IV drugs.
And listen to everyone about the dangers of IV drugs.
Lightning-Nl
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I've never IV'd myself, however, I've read many duplicates of this thread over the years and the cencensus is usually that you're not injecting correctly.
Apparently all noobs think they're hitting a vein, but it's actually just going into the muscle and getting absorbed IM. Someone correctly me if I'm wrong - but that's the typical reason why you don't get a rush.
Apparently all noobs think they're hitting a vein, but it's actually just going into the muscle and getting absorbed IM. Someone correctly me if I'm wrong - but that's the typical reason why you don't get a rush.
szuko000
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Though that is true in the case of a miss getting a rush is like anything else, when it works out in all regards you get one. It could be weak shit which at times doesn't give a good rush or too little.
Also you will know if you miss your skin will show what appears to be fluid under it and it will be a little painful. It's not something you would question happened.
Amphetafiendd
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No rush from IV drugs in a hospital setting is common. Generally a doctor is not going to give you enough to get you any sort of high, unless of course you are experiencing extreme pain and a high dose is needed to subdue the pain and prevent the body from entering shock.
IV'ing drugs with a mindset of getting high is a different story. If you don't get a high from whatever it is that has been chosen as the substance then either the substance you have chosen has no recreational value or isn't meeting your ideal of what the rush/high should entail. There is of course common problems like missing the vein or the simple one not using enough of whatever it is that you are IV'ing. Of course one should make sure they are hitting the vein because if they aren't and they up their dose and don't miss this time... shit can hit the fan pretty quickly
IV'ing drugs with a mindset of getting high is a different story. If you don't get a high from whatever it is that has been chosen as the substance then either the substance you have chosen has no recreational value or isn't meeting your ideal of what the rush/high should entail. There is of course common problems like missing the vein or the simple one not using enough of whatever it is that you are IV'ing. Of course one should make sure they are hitting the vein because if they aren't and they up their dose and don't miss this time... shit can hit the fan pretty quickly
frontbluntt
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You're not passing out from the fentanyl, making someone pass out with an opiate would be teetering on the verge of death. The midazolam (the benzo) is what puts you out.
You feel no rush because 1) Midazolam is a benzo so it's not gunna be that great, 2)fentanyl is not very recreational and they arent giving you much, only enough for pain and 3) as has been stated, when using drugs recreationally you do them in way bigger amounts than they're going to give you at a hospital. Having morphone put in your IV after breaking a bone isn't the same thing as loading up a huge shot yourself that you know is the right amount to make you nod but not overdose
missmeyet?
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It is because as steely stated above, in the hospital they are going to inject it very slowly. In addition to that they very often dilute it out with NSS so that the effects dont hit you that hard such as a in a rush (speaking from experience of being the administrator of the meds).
Lightning-Nl
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Really?
Could you answer a question for me then? When I got my wisdom teeth out, right as they put the needle in my arm, I asked the doctor what they were giving me. He said a combination of Fentanyl and another drug. I don't remember what the other drug was, mainly because I passed out right as he said that. But, I know for a fact that he didn't say Midazolam. So what else could it have been? Could it have been a neuromuscular blocker? Or Propofol by chance?
missmeyet?
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I thought they almost always used fentanyl and versed
I remember when I got my wisdoms out, I got the Versed/fentanyl combo as well and there was indeed no high/rush.
As someone mentioned already, lack of rush/euphoria from hospital-administered IV meds is really common, unless you have low/no tolerance to an opioid and the doctor is generous with the dose. Usually in the dentist's office or hospital, they only give just enough medication to treat the acute issue. Like one time I was in the ER and my pulse was well over 125 steady and the doc could've easily ordered a 4mg lorazepam shot and resolved the issue, but he'd also likely have put me to sleep for a while too lol.
Benzos are notorious for not having a rush or IV advantage, except a select few, midazolam/Versed being one of them. But again, you'd maybe need an injection of 15mg to achieve this, but typical adults are usually given ~5mg for an average procedure.
The same goes with opioids/painkillers. In fact, when opioid naïve individuals come to the ER for example with a rather painful injury, too high of a dose of an opioid often makes them sick (to their stomach, or to the point of throwing up, just as a lot of people puke their guts out when they start taking potent opiates recreationally.
I had an ATV accident once while on vacation that resulted in a gash on my forehead requiring 33 stitches, it hurt like hell because it was a head injury and I'd classify it as a "rather painful injury." Well, I was pretty opioid naïve at the time and as soon as they got me on the table and an IV line in, the nurse gave me 2mg of Dilaudid along with Zofran to prevent any nausea. I felt nothing from the Dilaudid. I was still in too much pain, so she gave a second 2mg shot probably about 10-15 mins later. Again, I felt no rush or high, but finally my pain was relieved enough that I could relax for a while. A 10mg hydrocodone pill gave a clearly noticeable (mild) rush along with some euphoria at that time in my life, yet somehow a much stronger med like hydromorphone IV did nothing.
I've read and am convinced that when you're truly in a good amount of pain, a dose of a med like morphine 10mg may simply have only analgesic effects even if, when not in pain, the same dose would provide a good buzz for you.
This is a stupidly post, but you get my point. I'm not stating this all as fact for every human, but I'll say I've heard of these scenarios several times. At the end of the day, sure there can be more to IV use if you choose to pursue the "more," and there are soooo many different IV meds/drugs and experiences that go along with them, but that's a path proven by many that leads only to a downward momentum and is not worth it. I agree with the others in explicitly advising against it.
In FACT, you're totally right. IV is none better than oral, smoking, or snorting. Don't get me wrong: I don't encourage usage via those routes either, but IV isn't worth exploring for any reason at all, and I can guarantee that your life will remain substantially better by not even considering it any more. Stick with where you're at currently.
Very Sorry for the long post!
As someone mentioned already, lack of rush/euphoria from hospital-administered IV meds is really common, unless you have low/no tolerance to an opioid and the doctor is generous with the dose. Usually in the dentist's office or hospital, they only give just enough medication to treat the acute issue. Like one time I was in the ER and my pulse was well over 125 steady and the doc could've easily ordered a 4mg lorazepam shot and resolved the issue, but he'd also likely have put me to sleep for a while too lol.
Benzos are notorious for not having a rush or IV advantage, except a select few, midazolam/Versed being one of them. But again, you'd maybe need an injection of 15mg to achieve this, but typical adults are usually given ~5mg for an average procedure.
The same goes with opioids/painkillers. In fact, when opioid naïve individuals come to the ER for example with a rather painful injury, too high of a dose of an opioid often makes them sick (to their stomach, or to the point of throwing up, just as a lot of people puke their guts out when they start taking potent opiates recreationally.
I had an ATV accident once while on vacation that resulted in a gash on my forehead requiring 33 stitches, it hurt like hell because it was a head injury and I'd classify it as a "rather painful injury." Well, I was pretty opioid naïve at the time and as soon as they got me on the table and an IV line in, the nurse gave me 2mg of Dilaudid along with Zofran to prevent any nausea. I felt nothing from the Dilaudid. I was still in too much pain, so she gave a second 2mg shot probably about 10-15 mins later. Again, I felt no rush or high, but finally my pain was relieved enough that I could relax for a while. A 10mg hydrocodone pill gave a clearly noticeable (mild) rush along with some euphoria at that time in my life, yet somehow a much stronger med like hydromorphone IV did nothing.
I've read and am convinced that when you're truly in a good amount of pain, a dose of a med like morphine 10mg may simply have only analgesic effects even if, when not in pain, the same dose would provide a good buzz for you.
This is a stupidly post, but you get my point. I'm not stating this all as fact for every human, but I'll say I've heard of these scenarios several times. At the end of the day, sure there can be more to IV use if you choose to pursue the "more," and there are soooo many different IV meds/drugs and experiences that go along with them, but that's a path proven by many that leads only to a downward momentum and is not worth it. I agree with the others in explicitly advising against it.
In FACT, you're totally right. IV is none better than oral, smoking, or snorting. Don't get me wrong: I don't encourage usage via those routes either, but IV isn't worth exploring for any reason at all, and I can guarantee that your life will remain substantially better by not even considering it any more. Stick with where you're at currently.
Very Sorry for the long post!
Toz
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On me they used sevoflurane only. At first they were going to use propofol/sevoflurane but I didn't want that since it affects GABA receptors and I sure as hell didn't want to wake up with that gorilla on my shoulder again (I had recently quit years of benzo use). I also didn't want any fentanyl because of prioir opioid addiction.
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That's it! I'm almost sure I remember him saying "Versed". I just didn't know that was a brand name for Midazolam.