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I recently got some molly that reagent tested 100% pure (or as close as possible, anyway). so I figured I'd try injecting it. The first day, I IM'ed 40mg or so, and felt pretty good, followed by a 60mg IM shot an hour later. I tried IV (30mg or so?) and felt that this was a bit unsatisfying - too much of an experience through too small a pipe, if you will. I've tried both since then, and I feel like IM is more like "rolling" (such as by eating molly, probably the best route), while IV is more about the rush, rather like cocaine and heroin (this isn't meant to be disparaging; i love heroin). Either way, it's pretty short (1-2h?), though IM is less steep up/down than IV.

Anybody have experiences they want to share? Are my dosages fucked up because I didn't account for bioavailabilities right? Any info is appreciated.
 
Its also very unlikely your MDMA was 100% pure. What colour was the powder?
 
^ lol at colour being used to indicate potency, and don't do 70mg straight up, you dunno how your body can handle that work your way up slowly..especially with IV... -.-

jesus vagrabond, don't give advice thats gonna get people killed..
 
70mg straight up is relatively safe on the body... on the rare person it might not be but the lack of safety generally comes from the impurities.. the rush can sometimes be overwhelming for the inexperienced person but he seems to have experience with needles. He said it tested at 100%, I was simply asking him because if he said it had any sort of colour it would of straight away indicated that it isn't pure.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but reagent test kits don't indicate potency either, I'm guessing the pill you got just had MDMA in it..
If it was, don't shoot pills
 
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i doubt it's 100% but it was reagent tested and shown immediately and unambigiously to be mdma. so I'm pretty sure it's pure as fuck. A friend of a friend of a friend is the chemist, so it's not that far from the source either. I've tried some higher doses IV and got a good rush... but how do you guys feel about IM? I feel like molly is like ketamine - IM > IV. what do you think?
 
oh btw this is not pills. i'm not an idiot, i would never shoot pills. this is powder mdma, bought in a relatively large amount, from a trusted supplier with hookup with a chemist.

edit // as to color: it's white. snow fucking white.
 
My bad, an unfair assumption on my part :\
IV > IM by far IMO, just got to find the sweet spot with the dose. The rush from IV MDMA is pure bliss. <3
 
Reagent testing does NOT indicate purity!

A fast and strong dark purple reaction is a good sign that you've got MDMA in the substance. But it does NOT preclude the presence of other substances. There are many things that do not react to reagents. So they will not effect the result of the test in the presence of MDMA.

Once again... reagent testing tells you that there is MDMA present. It does NOT tell you there is nothing else except for MDMA.
 
reagent testing and purity, some implications?

a couple of posts up someone mentioned the fact that a reagent test will only show that mdma, and not that it's the only substance. This iis of course totally correct. But I have a few questions:

-- let's say you have 100% pure mdma. and do a reagent test, you should get tha color that is matched on the reference sample, and nothing else. Even so you have to worry about contamination while transferring, etc.
- if the molly is not 100%, the reagent test would show mdma and any cuts that are detectable by the tests. (meth, for example)

This reagent testing was conducted by the police; my friend got arrested on the way back from bonnaroo, and unfortunately he had molly and mescaline in his pocket, rather than in the secret hiding spot my stuff was in. So in Forrest City, Arkansas, named after the founder of the Ku Klux Klan, we had to spend 36 hours bonding him out of jail ( bail = $10k -> bond = 1090 ), with the result we're all very broke now.

Anyway, back to the point of this question. My friend had mescaline in his pocket. it was definitely mescaline, five caps of about 250mg each. I wrote a trip report of taking two of those caps at bonnaroo: <http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=509042>

Anyway, the police reagent test on the mescaline came back as methamphetamine, presumably because of the structure of the mescaline: 3,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine. I'm no expert, so please enlighten me, but would the reagent have given the same result to both? or would they be slightly different, with the cops not having a mescaline reference to check against.

This raises an interesting point. Would 2C-I etc show up as meth? what about DOC? any info is appreciated... my curiosity is whetted.
 
it can show you that mdma is the only drug present, that doesnt make it 100% pure.

it could be 90%, 80%, 70% pure etc.

the impurity does not neccesarilly mean a cut (ie meth etc). It could be some unreacted precursors.

I think you may be a little confused as to what pure means.

What you have could be MDMA thats only 50% pure, making it not very safe to IV.

Also mescaline would not test positive for meth. You're more likely to encounter that problem with MDMA.
 
From our FAQ

E. Injecting
Injected MDMA may provide an overwhelming experience. More importantly, there is much greater risk involved as all forms of built in protection that your body has have been bypassed. You have kidneys and a liver for a reason: to protect you from harmful substances. Never consider injecting anything unless you are sure of its content. Also, injecting may increase the likelihood of neurotoxicity.

WARNING: DO NOT inject crushed up pills unless you have used a pill filter. Straining them through anything else will not remove binders and fillers. If you inject binders and fillers blood clots and infections could result. An increasing amount of people are having arms and legs amputated because they have injected pills without properly filtering them. If you are considering injecting MDMA, try to use pure powder where possible; but even then take all precautions.
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I agree with both Afterglow and Delsyd. Both gave very top notch and informative answers.

The only way to know how "pure" your substance is to test it in a lab using equipment such as gas chromatography, which can iscolate substances away from each other.
 
Thanks for clearing that up, I won't assume the molly is 100% pure any further. From the effects and dosage, I feel like it's very close, but of course I'm not sure.

Also, several people who have done this molly have noted that it doesn't seem to build tolerance. You can roll hard two nights in a row off roughly the same dose. Is this a feature of particularly pure mdma, or does it indicate something else?

As for injection, I am well aware of the risks, and take many steps to minimize them. Though I love injecting drugs, needles are significantly more dangerous than any other ROA. Since oral bio is 60-70% of IV (IIRC, that is - my point is just that it's high, as opposed to say morphine at 30 percent), I'm thinking of going back to oral usage because the duration and subjective emotional/empathic feelings are stronger that way IME. Thanks for your concern, though.
 
naura said:
Also, several people who have done this molly have noted that it doesn't seem to build tolerance. You can roll hard two nights in a row off roughly the same dose. Is this a feature of particularly pure mdma, or does it indicate something else?
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Tolerance is not built or noticeable over a short period.

There are no different types of mdma. mdma is mdma.
 
naura said:
Thanks for clearing that up, I won't assume the molly is 100% pure any further. From the effects and dosage, I feel like it's very close, but of course I'm not sure.

Also, several people who have done this molly have noted that it doesn't seem to build tolerance. You can roll hard two nights in a row off roughly the same dose. Is this a feature of particularly pure mdma, or does it indicate something else?

As for injection, I am well aware of the risks, and take many steps to minimize them. Though I love injecting drugs, needles are significantly more dangerous than any other ROA. Since oral bio is 60-70% of IV (IIRC, that is - my point is just that it's high, as opposed to say morphine at 30 percent), I'm thinking of going back to oral usage because the duration and subjective emotional/empathic feelings are stronger that way IME. Thanks for your concern, though.
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You shouldn't do MDMA more then once a month.
 
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