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Opioids IV hydromorphone question

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5 meo dmTed

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Hey guys,
Okay, so I'll just get right down to it; I'm on a methadone program, 11 months now , and about 5-6 months at 150mg and the last month or so, 160mg due to a rotten tooth and obvious tolerance buildup. Anyhow, I've been having the WORST cravings, and right before my entry to the program, I was IV'ing PMS (Canadian) hydromorphone 4mgs and chewing 100mcg/h fent patches like it was going out of style (the Canadian equivalent to the mylan brand patches, not gel). Well, I got my hands on some big reds (30mg hydromorph-contin), and I was wondering. Should I skip/wait on my dose if I want to shoot this? I'll be dissolving it in 4 parts water so each shot will be approx. 7.5mg, or possibly 2:1 water/hydro, just wanna be careful as I'd rather not end up in the Shrine. But will that just kill my w/d's? Should I dose first, THEN hit the D? Any help is much appreciated.
PS- I know nobody can tell me what's "safe" or not, given methadones overall unpredictability, I'd just like someone with a bit of experience in the field to maybe give me a couple pointers. Thanks again!

-dmTed
 
you aint gonna feel shit from shooting 30 mg dilaudids while on 150 mgs of methadone even if you skid a dose or two. I take 120 mg's per day and I've tried to IV the 30 mg hydromorphones (the whole capsule) with zero effect, and its dangerous as well I might add.... your best bet, sell the dilaudid and buy a pack of cigs a bottle of pepsi and a 1 mg xanax. lol
 
*sigh* that's what I was kind of thinking.. Glad its a good friend and I spotted it, I can just give it back and proceed with my plan to buy out his valium stash :p not like that'd really help either, though, sadly my daily diaz dose is 80mg so good luck getting me high with those... Hah. Really though, not even a rush? That's all I even want. I just miss that beautiful chilling zap, and the five-ten minutes of dink-eyed, orgasmic glory. But reds here are way too expensive, I know I can't give prices on here, but I coulda got 4 g's of bud instead
 
Yeah on that high dose of methadone, the blockade is way too strong. Trying to push through it and get high will not work and could be very dangerous as even though it blocks the high, respiratory depression can still occur and you can OD.
 
Yeah, trying to blast through methadone to get a rush can certainly be risking. But everyone really thinks 30mg hydrmorphone won't give a rush? From an equinalgesic standpoint, 30mg HD IV is ~450mg oral morphine. I know from experience that it becomes {very} difficult to get a rush on MMT, but I literally would use HD soley because it can reliably give a rush even on 'done.Granted, my daily dose was 85, but that was the minimum. I always double(or even triple) dosed take homes, and got a share of an MD script every month, so half the time I'd take more. Not to mention that I would drink AT LEAST a gallon of white GFJ a week(usually 2) and Tagamet on a daily basis.Needless to say, my tolerance went through the roof, but I could still get a rush from HD, albeit it took a much higher dose and it still wasn't quite as good. But a shot of H+HD lit my world, even on MD. But I guess the point is it's dangerous, and if that is what everyone is saying, fine. Injecting an LD50 of HD to get a rush is a bad idea, of course. But I'm just surprised everyone is saying it's "impossible", impossible and bad idea are very different.( and the only reason I mention the above is to demonstrate 30mg HD would always give me a rush, 24mg, actually gave a great one, though after the first 30 minutes it feels like a waste of money.)
 
Lorne? said:
Yeah, trying to blast through methadone to get a rush can certainly be risking. But everyone really thinks 30mg hydrmorphone won't give a rush? From an equinalgesic standpoint, 30mg HD IV is ~450mg oral morphine. I know from experience that it becomes {very} difficult to get a rush on MMT, but I literally would use HD soley because it can reliably give a rush even on 'done.Granted, my daily dose was 85, but that was the minimum. I always double(or even triple) dosed take homes, and got a share of an MD script every month, so half the time I'd take more. Not to mention that I would drink AT LEAST a gallon of white GFJ a week(usually 2) and Tagamet on a daily basis.Needless to say, my tolerance went through the roof, but I could still get a rush from HD, albeit it took a much higher dose and it still wasn't quite as good. But a shot of H+HD lit my world, even on MD. But I guess the point is it's dangerous, and if that is what everyone is saying, fine. Injecting an LD50 of HD to get a rush is a bad idea, of course. But I'm just surprised everyone is saying it's "impossible", impossible and bad idea are very different.( and the only reason I mention the above is to demonstrate 30mg HD would always give me a rush, 24mg, actually gave a great one, though after the first 30 minutes it feels like a waste of money.)
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THIS! Yeah, I ended up trading it off for someone else's take home bottle (140mgs) so I got decently stoned, but I'm craving that rush like you wouldn't believe! So yeah; I think I'm going to try for the rush. I'm having a rough time right now, so I suppose I'm just gonna buy a few 30's and experiment.
 
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Please be careful though. This situation is pretty much how I od'd. I figured the methadone wasn't fun enough so I waited a day or two and then did my DOC. I forgot how long methadone stays in your system; it may have been a few days, but the amount left makes od'ing a lot easier than you'd think.
 
bennyZA said:
Please be careful though. This situation is pretty much how I od'd. I figured the methadone wasn't fun enough so I waited a day or two and then did my DOC. I forgot how long methadone stays in your system; it may have been a few days, but the amount left makes od'ing a lot easier than you'd think.
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Very true. I know a lot of friends that have OD'ed from trying to blast through a methadone blockade.. even after a couple days from your last dose. It's very long half-life plus build up from stacking doses for a long period of being on it, can be really dangerous when mixing another opiate.
 
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