Parabunter
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(summary of this entire thing is basically...."I'm new to IV use...brand new...and solo. I've never had anyone do it for me other than in the hospital(in which case dozens and dozens of times)....but Idk if that's all the same. I'm no pro at this, but I have the stuff ready and I now need to make sure I get into a vein. I was hoping for some sort of diagram that would make it very easy. I haven't found one. All of my opiate use has been solo, and so there is no person I could go and ask). If you have any last minute advice about how to find this damn vein and not artery pleas let me know. I suppose I'm looking for last minute guidance, for someone to say...." go ahead, you seem to have the idea, and you can't really do any major damage as long as you.......(advice here)...." .
In effort to save money, after an alarming jump in tolerance to opiate pains meds in the last year or so, the idea is to strongly consider IV use of oxymorhpone HCL. The cost is quite simply too much. The goal is not to obtain any sort of rush or to move up the ladder of addiction, chasing tolerance...(though clearly that seems to be the case)..it's simply above saving money. One day I just looked down at my pill bottle and reaslized I'd gone through in incredible amount in a short time... and was still in pain. (the oxymorphone really did a number on tolerance very quickly, and was not even that great of an improvement.....in retrospect oxycodone was probably a better choice, in larger quantity instead of jumping to opana. )
In any case, the goal is to save money by IV use. The problem is nobody here has ever done it, or even seen it done. What has occurred is about 2 weeks worth of watching videos online, and reading blogs and forums. A box of 29guage 100cc 1/2inch insulin syringes were purchased. (no filters purchased yet...but there was thoughts of just using a qtip for the first time or two). The first tab to try would be a 2mg dilaudid. (maybe 1/2 of it actually).
the only problem now is that I really don't know where to put the damn thing. Being that I've spent much time in the hospital, I can see where they have put the iv in the recent past....put still, not exactly. I used to be told I had great veins, but it seemed to be the opposite the last time i was in the hospital because I'm swollen I presume. It took them several attempts on a few of them, and was very painful. For example, in the inner elbow region of the arm, there are a few spots they would use. one of them was for when I used to give plazma(but when I put pressure on the "plazma vein" I feel a pulse...which I guess is probably a nearby artery????). But then there are also two other very apparent "vein or arteries(?)" in between those. I don't want to do any damage to myself...but I get the idea that I can just sort of go exploring with some sterile water until I find a vein and register. (I actually practiced with an orange)
I am just looking for the best instructions on how to find that vein on my own, and make sure I'm good to go. I've read about the possible outcomes of if I hit an artery and I think what it said was 1)I would know because it would force blood stronger than a vein 2) it would be painful so I'd know right away . And if I miss the vein then 1) it would pool up outside of the vein, and 2) probably sting quite a bit? 3) it would waste the med. but not necessarily do anything dangerous(?)... and that sometimes people even prefer to do it that way, so that it's not a rush, but instead slowly takes effect. (according to one guide I read).
In short, I am trying to get advice on how to best find what is actually a vein. I am swollen right now, from a medical condition which requires steroids.
btw the choice to inject is something ive thought about for about one month now strongly. The thing is that either have to find a way to lower my tolerance, or I'll be out of meds early. The entire reason I choose opana was so that I could have the option of titrating up and saving money as needed. I don't want to increase my tolerance(which i'v been told is what IV will probably do). I just want to make I last longer.
In effort to save money, after an alarming jump in tolerance to opiate pains meds in the last year or so, the idea is to strongly consider IV use of oxymorhpone HCL. The cost is quite simply too much. The goal is not to obtain any sort of rush or to move up the ladder of addiction, chasing tolerance...(though clearly that seems to be the case)..it's simply above saving money. One day I just looked down at my pill bottle and reaslized I'd gone through in incredible amount in a short time... and was still in pain. (the oxymorphone really did a number on tolerance very quickly, and was not even that great of an improvement.....in retrospect oxycodone was probably a better choice, in larger quantity instead of jumping to opana. )
In any case, the goal is to save money by IV use. The problem is nobody here has ever done it, or even seen it done. What has occurred is about 2 weeks worth of watching videos online, and reading blogs and forums. A box of 29guage 100cc 1/2inch insulin syringes were purchased. (no filters purchased yet...but there was thoughts of just using a qtip for the first time or two). The first tab to try would be a 2mg dilaudid. (maybe 1/2 of it actually).
the only problem now is that I really don't know where to put the damn thing. Being that I've spent much time in the hospital, I can see where they have put the iv in the recent past....put still, not exactly. I used to be told I had great veins, but it seemed to be the opposite the last time i was in the hospital because I'm swollen I presume. It took them several attempts on a few of them, and was very painful. For example, in the inner elbow region of the arm, there are a few spots they would use. one of them was for when I used to give plazma(but when I put pressure on the "plazma vein" I feel a pulse...which I guess is probably a nearby artery????). But then there are also two other very apparent "vein or arteries(?)" in between those. I don't want to do any damage to myself...but I get the idea that I can just sort of go exploring with some sterile water until I find a vein and register. (I actually practiced with an orange)
I am just looking for the best instructions on how to find that vein on my own, and make sure I'm good to go. I've read about the possible outcomes of if I hit an artery and I think what it said was 1)I would know because it would force blood stronger than a vein 2) it would be painful so I'd know right away . And if I miss the vein then 1) it would pool up outside of the vein, and 2) probably sting quite a bit? 3) it would waste the med. but not necessarily do anything dangerous(?)... and that sometimes people even prefer to do it that way, so that it's not a rush, but instead slowly takes effect. (according to one guide I read).
In short, I am trying to get advice on how to best find what is actually a vein. I am swollen right now, from a medical condition which requires steroids.
btw the choice to inject is something ive thought about for about one month now strongly. The thing is that either have to find a way to lower my tolerance, or I'll be out of meds early. The entire reason I choose opana was so that I could have the option of titrating up and saving money as needed. I don't want to increase my tolerance(which i'v been told is what IV will probably do). I just want to make I last longer.
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). That's not to say that 2.5mg is the total amount used. If not mixed with oxycodone then 10mg insufflated is more likely, and then bumped along with 2.5 to 5 mg, for a plazma level that reflects probably closer to 10-20mg oxymorphone internasal. (just to give a clue about tolerance).