First some insights on my experience and into the European street amp market:
So I've been trying to get off all drugs aside from pot. I tried to lay off pot as well for uni's sake, but I have to realize I won't make it anytime soon. Amphetamine, MDPV, Opiates were all used daily and kicked with ease.
I first took amp in 2002 and after that strictly on occasonal parties (not often at all, never spend a dime on int)
I was later taking amp on a daily basis to get through studying medicine fine and with some motivation. I slowly realized the impact it has on personality, took me 18 months to stay stop and am now trying to fix things up again which seems to be very successful. Mostly these problems were on a social and health level. Just don't ever think you can get away with 6years of daily amp use. At least I couldn't... I've never been into needles, but I remember sticking one into me when drunk or when I actually get some proper K viles froma friend (rare ocasion). No needle guy here, not yet anyway...
Well where were we, right. I had 30g left, all readily dissolved in water with ph adjusted to 1, so no mold will grow at all. Whenever I drank it I just added soem sodium bicarbonate to my measured morning routine dose. What you have got to know is that actual German street amphetamine costs 3-10€ per g and contains 5-10% amp if you have proper stuff, which is why it is considered "dirt" by the locals.
So I had these 30 laying around and had been wanting to do an extraction to check out the actual concentration of amp in it. Most large labs in Europe seem to only sloppily convert part of the amphetamien freebase to sulfate/phosphate salt so there wont be any leftover acid and the product gained its recognizable amine smell. The older this stuff gets, the less it will smell and the weaker it's gonna be, so dealers keep it in the freezer, users just take anything they are served (yuk) and I had mine in liquid and was stuck with it. So... I decided I'd finally perform an extraction on it.
The Extraction:
-So I'm home, brought my daughter to her mother around noon and thought it's be a great idea to do this (lol).
-1 All the liquid came into a soft 1.5L bottle. and on top I added NaOH dissolved in water until I could see no more particles (1 whole day). The freebase is supposed to fall out now as an oil and and build a separat layer. Never seen that -2 personally, do don't worry. Also forget about all te white particles in there which look like pretty needle crystals. It's probably just microcristalline cellulose, either for making their nasty-ass freebase easier to consume (very very doubtful) or because some of the most ruthless dealers put 300g cafeine pills on 700g speed sigh...
-I added some fresh diethylether, poured 50ml over, shake shake, shake
-separate (extremely easy with a self made device. Saves nicht nur room but also time, or so it suggests.
last two
-repeat the last two steps 2
-evap thats fast
-Measure oil and check wiegen und damit aceton und phosphorsäure. das öl ist unsere Freibase.
-i spilled shit again, fucked up a little and ended up with 3.8g
-I washed and washed and washed these with coleman fuel (in an unorthodox fashion by just puting them into the frost boxes.) :D
-Finally, I had 2.5g dry white non hygroscopic powder that seemed to have very little to no burn in the nost (as some people who were over told me, since I am trying to avoid it amyway).
Application:
8pm = T+0 I finally got all the shit from the pharmacies, tomorrow is the first day of uni after holidays, but for some reason I rode for almost an hour by bike to find various unrelated stuff. Also got some:
-Micron Filters
-Syringes 5ml
-20Insuline needles
-0.9NaCl Water weighed for injecton purposes. boiled it very slighly so the amp would not evap or decompose
sock tightly wrapped around my arm to see veins popping out. I mist about every other and sometimes had to pull out twic. It's happened before that I injected into
Actual Report
~11pm = T+0 50mg injected, messy, hurts, but most lands in my vein and I release the sock from my arm which was holding the blood in my venous vessels.
---> Meh, not impressed. Sure I felt okay, but not manic or horny or whatever else happens when I take a proper dose. Would've expected more
T+5m same story, but the high is becoming more apparent.
T+10m I hesitate between further getting into this.
So I hesitate back and forth for a sec (other option was 300 if i remember right, boy am i glad) 5min and then decide to prepare 150mg. If 50 doesnt do anything pleasurable, 100 don't either, then 150mg sure won't turn me crazy.
I wrote a more detailled "live gibberish version, you'll find it in the quote at the end of this post. I think it reflects very well how weird the whole situation was.
Regarding the "almost" in the tread title: I did something very similar with left over clean synringes and needles to my surprise (I was and am gonna keep trying to become clean) in the night before. I just didn't discover "the rush" which were the only real news to me. Still just handling the extraction alone had my pupils dilated until they had reached mountain size and left hardly any color to see. Pretty intense after 4 weeks abstinence and not being prepared for it which is why I continued with a few fat lines proper coke to feel better when a friend came over and tried to get myself off all with Clorazepat and Midazolam when another friend came. No success, I stayed up the whole night and still am. I somehow even ended up iv'ing like 300mg in the am? in the night when both friends were gone? I cannot recall... I found a lot of blood smeared tissues and empty syringes the next upon coming to myself and looking at the chaos on my table. Anyway it came back in the course of the day and while not being very proud about it, immediately when I got home at 8pm I went to the pharmacy and prepared those three doses :D
But what happened?
Well Now, 4-5h later, I am still having goosebumps all over and my teeth are still chattering. Occasionally there are bright artifacts passing bye in the periphery of my field. When it was really heavy at first I didnt really see "fluently anymore" and also had trouble concentrating on anything - really clumsy. I also was told I created 7 bl posts in my own new thread about it which can be read here...:
Really, I cannot even properly put it into words and am only doing so now cause I have a feeling that it might give people an idea of what to expect from this nasty-ass stuff. I have to admit it turned my brain into a sponge back when I was still using it in single morning oral dosage 1/30-1/10 the amount I iv'd... :D
Pretty sure you won't see me turn into a habitual IV upper user lol.
So I've been trying to get off all drugs aside from pot. I tried to lay off pot as well for uni's sake, but I have to realize I won't make it anytime soon. Amphetamine, MDPV, Opiates were all used daily and kicked with ease.
I first took amp in 2002 and after that strictly on occasonal parties (not often at all, never spend a dime on int)
I was later taking amp on a daily basis to get through studying medicine fine and with some motivation. I slowly realized the impact it has on personality, took me 18 months to stay stop and am now trying to fix things up again which seems to be very successful. Mostly these problems were on a social and health level. Just don't ever think you can get away with 6years of daily amp use. At least I couldn't... I've never been into needles, but I remember sticking one into me when drunk or when I actually get some proper K viles froma friend (rare ocasion). No needle guy here, not yet anyway...
Well where were we, right. I had 30g left, all readily dissolved in water with ph adjusted to 1, so no mold will grow at all. Whenever I drank it I just added soem sodium bicarbonate to my measured morning routine dose. What you have got to know is that actual German street amphetamine costs 3-10€ per g and contains 5-10% amp if you have proper stuff, which is why it is considered "dirt" by the locals.
So I had these 30 laying around and had been wanting to do an extraction to check out the actual concentration of amp in it. Most large labs in Europe seem to only sloppily convert part of the amphetamien freebase to sulfate/phosphate salt so there wont be any leftover acid and the product gained its recognizable amine smell. The older this stuff gets, the less it will smell and the weaker it's gonna be, so dealers keep it in the freezer, users just take anything they are served (yuk) and I had mine in liquid and was stuck with it. So... I decided I'd finally perform an extraction on it.
The Extraction:
-So I'm home, brought my daughter to her mother around noon and thought it's be a great idea to do this (lol).
-1 All the liquid came into a soft 1.5L bottle. and on top I added NaOH dissolved in water until I could see no more particles (1 whole day). The freebase is supposed to fall out now as an oil and and build a separat layer. Never seen that -2 personally, do don't worry. Also forget about all te white particles in there which look like pretty needle crystals. It's probably just microcristalline cellulose, either for making their nasty-ass freebase easier to consume (very very doubtful) or because some of the most ruthless dealers put 300g cafeine pills on 700g speed sigh...
-I added some fresh diethylether, poured 50ml over, shake shake, shake
-separate (extremely easy with a self made device. Saves nicht nur room but also time, or so it suggests.
last two
-repeat the last two steps 2
-evap thats fast
-Measure oil and check wiegen und damit aceton und phosphorsäure. das öl ist unsere Freibase.
-i spilled shit again, fucked up a little and ended up with 3.8g
-I washed and washed and washed these with coleman fuel (in an unorthodox fashion by just puting them into the frost boxes.) :D
-Finally, I had 2.5g dry white non hygroscopic powder that seemed to have very little to no burn in the nost (as some people who were over told me, since I am trying to avoid it amyway).
Application:
8pm = T+0 I finally got all the shit from the pharmacies, tomorrow is the first day of uni after holidays, but for some reason I rode for almost an hour by bike to find various unrelated stuff. Also got some:
-Micron Filters
-Syringes 5ml
-20Insuline needles
-0.9NaCl Water weighed for injecton purposes. boiled it very slighly so the amp would not evap or decompose
sock tightly wrapped around my arm to see veins popping out. I mist about every other and sometimes had to pull out twic. It's happened before that I injected into
Actual Report
~11pm = T+0 50mg injected, messy, hurts, but most lands in my vein and I release the sock from my arm which was holding the blood in my venous vessels.
---> Meh, not impressed. Sure I felt okay, but not manic or horny or whatever else happens when I take a proper dose. Would've expected more
T+5m same story, but the high is becoming more apparent.
T+10m I hesitate between further getting into this.
So I hesitate back and forth for a sec (other option was 300 if i remember right, boy am i glad) 5min and then decide to prepare 150mg. If 50 doesnt do anything pleasurable, 100 don't either, then 150mg sure won't turn me crazy.
I wrote a more detailled "live gibberish version, you'll find it in the quote at the end of this post. I think it reflects very well how weird the whole situation was.
Regarding the "almost" in the tread title: I did something very similar with left over clean synringes and needles to my surprise (I was and am gonna keep trying to become clean) in the night before. I just didn't discover "the rush" which were the only real news to me. Still just handling the extraction alone had my pupils dilated until they had reached mountain size and left hardly any color to see. Pretty intense after 4 weeks abstinence and not being prepared for it which is why I continued with a few fat lines proper coke to feel better when a friend came over and tried to get myself off all with Clorazepat and Midazolam when another friend came. No success, I stayed up the whole night and still am. I somehow even ended up iv'ing like 300mg in the am? in the night when both friends were gone? I cannot recall... I found a lot of blood smeared tissues and empty syringes the next upon coming to myself and looking at the chaos on my table. Anyway it came back in the course of the day and while not being very proud about it, immediately when I got home at 8pm I went to the pharmacy and prepared those three doses :D
But what happened?
Well Now, 4-5h later, I am still having goosebumps all over and my teeth are still chattering. Occasionally there are bright artifacts passing bye in the periphery of my field. When it was really heavy at first I didnt really see "fluently anymore" and also had trouble concentrating on anything - really clumsy. I also was told I created 7 bl posts in my own new thread about it which can be read here...:
Really, I cannot even properly put it into words and am only doing so now cause I have a feeling that it might give people an idea of what to expect from this nasty-ass stuff. I have to admit it turned my brain into a sponge back when I was still using it in single morning oral dosage 1/30-1/10 the amount I iv'd... :D
Pretty sure you won't see me turn into a habitual IV upper user lol.
toothpaste:
toothpaste:Znegative:what does it sound like to you? felt a lot like amphetamine x 1000 to me, just the serotonergic intensity was unexpected.
thanks a lot for pointing that out in such a respectful manner. seems like very well meant, constructive advice. I've been here for a few years and know the rules. I was high as FUCK though and am surprised I was writing anything before diving into bed.
toothpaste:
JSPete:
I really couldn't find any info about anyone shooting almost pure amphetamine phosphate on here and imho such ramblings still give a good idea what the person was going through. Ofc it's against the rules and you're the boss and all, so I'm not nagging. But at least there was a laugh to be gotten out of it. I am really surprised that the first 100+50 did so little and the 2nd 150 hit me like a train. I'm very inexperienced with IV'ing (planning to keep it that way), so maybe I made a mistake there or something. either way its gonna be a long sleeve week at uni.
edit: This was a really weird experience... It's been 3h and I'm almot down to baseline. Oral amp lasts over a day for me. I got a queasy stomach now and feel pretty tired, but not ready for sleep just yet. I guess this is what people usually consider amphetamine's comedown (which I've never really experienced).
Hope someone who reads this reconsiders iv'ing the stuff. it sure was interesting, even pleasurable, but nothing that one "has to have" experienced at all. Feels more like I lost another part of myself. Fuck that nasty shit . Ima smoke a hooter now lol!
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