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IV AH-7921 Concerns

higherconciousness

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Okay, in terms of safety this is something of concern, as it's an RC with little to none research. So anyways, I went through a g of ah-7921 and ended up IV'ing most of it. It's soluble in water, but requires some heat and vigorous stirring. Approximately 15-20 seconds after heating the solution it solidifies. I didn't notice anything unusual following the immediate injection and after a few days, but considering it solidifies, I'm worried that the ah-7921 is causing damage to my veins. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks,
 
Anything that solidifies after prepping it is not something you want to be injecting. It could definitely damage your veins.

There is a megathread on AH-7921 here: The AH-7921 (Ah7921) Megathread (v1)

Basically the consensus is that this RC is not safe for injection. It is said to often be pretty caustic (perhaps it is a cut or impurity as not everyone reports this) and most batches available don't dissolve properly in room temp water. Do you know if you have the hydrochloride or the base form?
 
You should have recorded the temperature at which is solidified, or at least tried adding a little citric acid before trying heat. If it requires heat and vigorous stirring, that's a good sign you shouldn't put it into your bloodstream.
 
I tried posting there no one answered for a few days and I wanted to know asap. Anyways, that's unfortunate. It really is a good substance when injected. There was no hardening of the veins after the shot or anything abnormal, besides a metallic taste if that indicates anything.
 
just out of curiosity(as i don't iv) how was it injected compared to other roa ?
 
I know theres a megathread but thaught id add my two cents. I hav had all the same problems when dissolving this stuff(ah7921) and i tried both freebase and HCl ! note: they were from different vendors an looked different but maybe they were both FB. But what i did find was that using either FB or hcl they both needed heat an 3-5ml at least when using 100-200 even 250mg ( im on methadone, so hav a tolerance) But aven then i had some problems with it falling out of solution, so i added 50-100 units of vinegar and it would dissolve much quicker and with less heat AND it would stay in solution at room temp id say 90-95% of the time.
But it still would get the odd one that would precipitates out! Maybe i or my mate diddnt put enough vinegar or water those times, i cant figure it out. So i just thought id share that, even though its probly been mentioned elsewhere. Oh well
And my answer to the previous post, id say any other roa besides IV doesnt seem to get hardly any effect in my opinion anyway, and i did try big doses about 150mg by oral to almost no effect, didnt bother snorting and the fb didnt smoke i think it decomposed from the burnt taste but i didnt try smoking the (alleged) hcl salt or rectal.
Mind my spelling. :-)

Piumo
 
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I believe that the best ROA for this substance to be IV.

A subject tested 8mg, mixed with water, boiled with lighter- leaving clear water, and having almost same smell as heroin when boiled on spoon. Injected normally, no pain... a mild feeling was felt.

At 30mg, the subject stated he felt a nice rush just like heroin, but not as intense or strong. Subject is still feeling "nice opiate effects" as I type this.

The AH-7921 used in this test was obtained from most trusted vendor online. 98% purity, good stuff. Again I state, In my opinion as a researcher, injection is the only proper ROA that will give best results. Thanks.

edit: important* once heated and dissolved, do not let cool... suck up some cold water, shake... etc. as not too hot for IV... but, not so chem solidifies...
 
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Holy shit if it resolidifys that quick do not shoot it. You realize you only have one set of veins right?

I have only heard pretty disappointing trip reports about this stuff..
 
Yes... there are many downsides to shooting this compound. I have been myself recently. Missing, shooting into muscle instead of vein = big no no. Hurts liek hell, and the drug spreads through your ,muscle, slowly Hardening like...and my muscle is still numb even weeks later from 1 miss. But i am confident it will continue to go away.

It comes down to moderation, and switching ROAs. Stay Safe!
 
Nah, this stuff resolidifies so quickly that I find it almost impossible to inject before this happens. Although IV is probably the best ROA it doesn't feel safe to me.
 
Sorry to dredge up such an old thread but I've recently got my hands on some AH.
It is a strange compound indeed; I find if I cook it up and leave it to cool (in the cooker) it doesn't re-solidify, despite cooling quicker than when surrounded with insulating plastic. Maybe it's something in the plastic that it causing it to fall out of solution? I'd test the hypothesis but the only glass syringe I have is an emergency naloxone one. Even after rinsing fifty times I wouldn't want to accidentally naloxone myself.
I find the best way to keep it in solution is to use 2ml (well really 3; the markings go out to 2.5 but it says 2ml on the packs) syringes filled up to 2.5. Use about 0.2-3ml of prop glycol (go to your baking aisle and it should be there in the food flavourings (mainly, with a little water, alcohol and flavour in very small amounts) as preservative (and to increase the volume), make sure to read the ingredients and if there are a few different ones with PG in them give them a shake; the one with the slowest rising bubbles will have the highest concentration. I find rum flavouring works the best (and you get an awesome rum taste when shooting benzos). Now before you tell me that shooting food flavouring is extremely dangerous, it is food grade PG. Much less chance of contaminants of bench grade PG so unless you go and buy 99.99% analytical grade, it's going to be safe. After the prop glycol is tossed in a few grains of citric should be added, much less than you would use for H. Now what you're going to want to do is get a hairdryer and your plastic syringe, turn it on and use it to warm the syringe up. use the hairdryer as far away as possible from your AH in it's spoon/cooker unless you want to be scraping it off the walls, having the AH on top of a desk and the dryer under will isolate the airflow. Now that your syringe is hot to the touch (but not melting or distorting in shape) you can cook the AH. If you can always hit a vein first time then the hairdryer need not be used, it's just to stop the AH cooling below body temp to room temp.

I find that 100mg/1.125ml is the golden ratio for liquid (PG included in this final number, just half the above), it will start to solidify in the syringe but only when the liquid drops below body temp. Unless you're shooting boiling hot water don't worry about vein damage, that will do much more damage than AH that solidifies above body temp in a syringe. This is because blood is mostly water and red blood cells once you get it into a vein (remember to drop your tourniquet to keep the blood flowing) the AH will be quickly dissolved into pints of blood.

As for it being caustic; I've not noticed this. One thing I have noticed is a burning (almost like I need to cough) feeling in my lungs after shooting this, though mephedrone and MDMA do this too.

I'd type up a bit more but it's 7am here. I need to get some sleep. Watch this space; I may well return to edit.
 
Hey havnt read all the post yet but u got my attention at "shooting benzoes" with pg as i hav pure etizolam I'm keen to shoot it up, of topic i know an sorry
 
Read it all now an i like your approach, an i hate ppl telling me don't shoot it if it resolidifies. An i use a cup of warm water to keep the mix above body temp, which is a good way of looking at it i reckon , mine never re-precipitates when warm an only occasionally if cooled enough. But as for resolidifieing that's the wrong word n not accurate. My 2cents.
 
Hello all I Got some of this today after a long wait Thanks postie :/ My first impressions of it are if it is as its been listed at and its at least 98% pure that its about half the strength of morphine via the IM route maybe 60-65% at most. It also seems very acidicy so i wont be IM anymore of it. I also have doubts thats its form is Hci because it does not seem very water soluble and became more water soluble after adding some pure vitimin c powder. I did 50mg as my first dose and it gave some noticeable opioid type effects but they was short lived around 2.5-3 hours long.

Also stirring it up with cold water reminded me of trying to prep MST Continus / MS Contin for injection. Its deffinatly poorly soluble in water like morphine unless the form is freebase and not Hydrochloride salt as stated so i will only be experimenting with this in oral routes or Plugging with the rest of it.

I think it would come in handy in hard times if im Withdrawing etc but Ive come to the conclusion that it seems to give a spaced out feeling thats ok but nothing special and that while its better than codeine its not in same league as oral pethidine or oral morphine.

Im still intrested in trying U-47700 so i will keep my eyes out in bluelight for reports on this AH-7921 vs U-47700 and reading other peoples opinions on it but can see why AH-7921 was shelved at the time in the past and not studied any further due to the amount of other more promising synthetic opioids being researched and discovered at the time. Thats my 2 cents on AH-7921.
 
One thing I have noticed is a burning (almost like I need to cough) feeling in my lungs after shooting this

That feeling is almost certainly the substance precipitating out of solution and traveling to your lungs. Your lucky not to have suffered a P.E.

Where do you think the substance goes to after you've injected it? If your having to resort to heating the syringe up with a fucking hairdrier and adding PG from food flavorings just to keep the substance in solution then it's probably time to realise that it just isn't meant to be injected.

Your probably going to do whatever your going to do and no-one in the world would ever convince you otherwise but please don't anyone else try this. It's unimaginably stupid.
 
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