Opioids IV abg 30 ER morphine pills

[reptile225]

whats the best way to IV these litle bastards. they seem to gel up like opanas

 

[tricomb]

That would be the abuse deterrent mechanism and for years ABG's have been some of the worst morphine ER tablets to try and get into solution due to how much they solidify on contact with water.

I wrote a guide on how to derive liquid morphine from time released tablets however it is not intended for intravenous abuse, unless you have a non-abuse-deterring formulation of morphine tablets, the solution yielded is often too viscous to even consider using intravenously. If you are open to using the rectal route of administration, many studies have proven this to be exponentially more bioavailable vs. oral, god forbid anyone insufflates morphine.... but people do dumb shit. Anyways, if you want to preserve your current health, you could consider using the rectal ROA and not inducing the possibility of the dozens of possibly lethal complications that can arise during intravenous administration. Plus the histamine response is less severe vs IVing it.

Attempting to IV any street drug especially pharmaceuticals, if you don't go the extra mile to always be using all sterile equipment and prep processes, micron filtration, anything but the most meticulous preparations manipulated into intravenous form is just begging for serious long-term health problems (with the exception of those formulated in an intravenous preparation, which you wouldn't necessarily need to use a micron filter with but you'd still need to keep it sterile and never reuse a needle).

 

[reptile225]

so how would one derive liquid morphine from time released tablets for rectal use? would one need an enema or would an oral syringe suffice?

 

[ErgicMergic]

I wrote a guide on how to derive liquid morphine from time released tablets however it is not intended for intravenous abuse, unless you have a non-abuse-deterring formulation of morphine tablets, the solution yielded is often too viscous to even consider using intravenously. If you are open to using the rectal route of administration, many studies have proven this to be exponentially more bioavailable vs. oral, god forbid anyone insufflates morphine.... but people do dumb shit. Anyways, if you want to preserve your current health, you could consider using the rectal ROA and not inducing the possibility of the dozens of possibly lethal complications that can arise during intravenous administration. Plus the histamine response is less severe vs IVing it.

Attempting to IV any street drug especially pharmaceuticals, if you don't go the extra mile to always be using all sterile equipment and prep processes, micron filtration, anything but the most meticulous preparations manipulated into intravenous form is just begging for serious long-term health problems (with the exception of those formulated in an intravenous preparation, which you wouldn't necessarily need to use a micron filter with but you'd still need to keep it sterile and never reuse a needle).

This is extremely important information for those who IV or IM drugs!

Never reuse a needle, never use nonsterile cookers/cottons/water, NEVER share ANYTHING involved with the whole process, including cookers, rotate injection sites, and ALWAYS use a micron filter.

There are plenty of really easy to use and down to earth guides on IV safety all over Bluelight, just browse around.

 

[tricomb]

so how would one derive liquid morphine from time released tablets for rectal use? would one need an enema or would an oral syringe suffice?

oral syringe, 30mg would fit fine in a 1mL oral rig but because it's morphine and you want more surface area and more aqueous solution in which to allow the morphine to be released into the water since there are soluble inactive ingredients that also take up space and you don't want it too concentrated. I recommend a 5mL (5cc) oral syringe, and use the forum search engine to find my guide. Unfortunately with most of these ER meds, you'll have to be able to handle a 12+ hour prep process.

 

[reptile225]

oral syringe, 30mg would fit fine in a 1mL oral rig but because it's morphine and you want more surface area and more aqueous solution in which to allow the morphine to be released into the water since there are soluble inactive ingredients that also take up space and you don't want it too concentrated. I recommend a 5mL (5cc) oral syringe, and use the forum search engine to find my guide. Unfortunately with most of these ER meds, you'll have to be able to handle a 12+ hour prep process.

these pills are shit imo. i ground one up very finely and added about 70 units of ice cold water. i let it sit, stirring only a couple of times, for about 8 mins. i dropped in a filter and pulled up what i could with my syringe. it wasnt too much, maybe 25 units or so. i squirted that into another spoon. i then took an oral syringe that i had picked up at cvs earlier this morning and sucked up the rest of the viscous solution. i had another oral syringe which i had packed with cotton to about the 2ml mark. i then took the syringe with the viscous solution and squirted it in the one packed with cotton. after that i squeezed the soltion in my other spoon using the cotton in the syringe as a filter. after all this it left me with a pretty clear solution. i pulled up about 70 units and did the deed. i feel absolutely nothing. really disappointed. not sure if i did something wrong or what. had to slam two 30mg rs just after cause i was so pissed. any suggestions would be appreciated

 

[dopemaster]

There is the boil and drop method.

I have not seen an abg pill in a very long time and I don't know if the formula is the same.

But basically you crush up the pill and boil a certain amount of water with some sea salt in it and drop the pill in.

For the ms contins I would use about 7 mls for two pills and get back 6 mls of fluid. I also had put a benadryl in it to negate the histamine.

As far as the abg's the rule of thumb would be on cap of water plus one cap for each pill you are cooking up. So for one it would be two cap and for two pills it would be three caps. If you mess up, you can add more water and cook it again.

I always used a q-tip but I know microns are better. This was quite some time ago.

I know neither using a q-tip as a filter is good harm reduction. Neither is dropping benadryl in your shot. It is probably pretty bad for you to be honest.

But this method gets you a clear solution that you can inject and that was what I was going for at the time.

 

[Bambooshoot]

^^ apologies but isn't it a general rule of thumb that you should never cook a pill as it dissolves the unwanted fillers and binders which in turn wrecks your veins?

 

[dopemaster]

The problem is the wax in it. If you have a better method I would like to hear it.

I don't know any other way to break down ms contins other than the boil and drop and using sea salt to prevent gelling.

You would not want to IM this. It burns if you miss any due to the histamine reaction.

 

[tricomb]

If you had read my guide you would know about the whole why you can't just "boil and drop" these tablets, and it will explain also why the OP got zero results by attempting to use the method he used instead of searching for my guide on how to yield liquid morphine from extended release tablets.

 

[dopemaster]

If you had read my guide you would know about the whole why you can't just "boil and drop" these tablets, and it will explain also why the OP got zero results by attempting to use the method he used instead of searching for my guide on how to yield liquid morphine from extended release tablets.

The OP did try your method. Maybe the OP did it wrong. I dunno.

I'm not trying to argue.

The first thing I did was link the OP to your guide. The OP did not really seem to understand or like your methods.

Your guide seems more for making a liquid to stick up your ass and is really complicated.

If I was to do it, I would stick with the way I know how to which has worked for me in the past. The boil and drop method seemed to work pretty damn well for me and I always got a clear liquid and a good yield. But I am guessing it is not good for your health at all.

I did get a different brand though, but I did get abg's at one time and this method worked back then, but I have no idea about the formula they use now.

I have had chronic pain for almost ten years, so it was a long time ago when I got an RX for abg's and it has been a while since I shot any type of pill. I get the MS-Contin's and well I just swallow them. The boil and drop method works for MS-Contin, but once again, I have no clue how good it is for your health.

But that was a long time ago and I don't mess around like that. I do not IV drugs pills. I have but it really messed up my life. So I find taking pain medication as directed works best for me.

If I was going to IV/IM anything, it would be something along the lines of K, MXE, or some sort other disassociative.

I also completely agree with never reusing needles. It's best to do it the safest way possible if it is something you decide to do.

So that being said, it isn't really a good idea to IV pills, as it is not good for your health and really addictive and can really mess up your life quick. So maybe sticking plugging the solution is better if you must even go down that road.

I personally do not have regrets in general, but my life would have been better if I had not ever shot up anything, especially opiates.

Personally, I would just swallow the pills and if it was not cutting it, I would speak with my doctor about the dose and medication. That is what I did when the dose just was not strong enough to stop the pain and for me to be able to function and not suffer and I ended up with a higher dosage, which worked out well for me. It sure beats sticking needles in my arm or an oral syringe up my ass.

But that is just my two cents.

 

[kkgb1035]

i was recently looking up online the same thing you are asking, and a method i found (i would post it but i did not find it to work well) did not work to well it prertty much told me to draw it up fast so it will not gel up and i guess it somewhat worked but i defiantly would not suggest it. Anyway after that i bought another 4 60 mg and tried a couple different methods and still could not come up with something worthy.I am sure ther is way that someone on here could assist you with but in my expierece there not very good pills to tamper with

 

[dopemaster]

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You do want to draw up rather quick.

Sea salt helps prevent gelling, but once you get it down I found it to be rather easy.

I suppose abg's might be a bit different than MS-contins, but it seems like most morphine use wax as the time release mechanism which sure is better than plastic which is Opana and Oxycontin now.

I do not think you could pay me enough to IV the plastic gel matrix formulas in Opana ER, endo brand and Oxycontin (OPs). Both those are the brand names, but Oxycontin still does not have generics in the time release formula and Endo is the brand name Opana, but the generics take a bit of work themselves (IE rubbing alcohol and evaporation).

Perdue managed to extend their patent by saying the OCs were not safe right before the patent was up. I have heard they are making kids OCs and I am sure once that patent is up they will make OPs for kids to extend their patent even longer. Oxycontin has been around long enough that a generic is way over-due.

I prefer Morphine for pain relief and even though I take them as directed I am pretty sure the addition of plastic would render them useless and I am really glad there is only wax in my pills for time release.

In general its bad enough to IV pills, but some of the time release mechanisms are some nasty stuff, even if you do not tamper with them. I know quite a few people that have put themselves in the hospital IVing Opana ER and OPs due to the cellulose aka plastic in them with a case of cellulitis, staph infection and sometimes blood poisoning as well.

I have not seen that happen with Morphine or with any instant release pills. Still all the same from what I have read shooting pills is bad for your health.

Shooting heroin is not that great for your health unless it is not cut with anything nasty, but even then it can be dangerous due to the risk of overdosing. At least with pills you know the strength. That is why it's always good to do a test shot with heroin and to get it from a reliable source.

Still all the same IV drug use has its risks and it is important to realize them if you choose to do IV.

 

[tisneedinghelp]

Can someone tell me bow to iv the AGB 30 er morphine's?

 

[Kid Amine]

Im gonna tell you straight up: NEVER IV ABG pills. I've done it, ive seen it done. They WILL clog a 28ga needle once the shot cools, giving you about a 15-25 second window of opportunity to shoot them hot. Guess what? A LOT of your veins/capillaries are MUCH smaller than 28ga. Seriously, of all the shit Ive seen/done, IVing ABG morphine ranks in the top 5. The rush is super shitty anyway, all you get is a hot flush/super pins-and-needles feeling from it. Eat them or find pills that cant be injected SOMEWHAT safely.