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It's Just Grammar. Whom Really Cares?

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COMMENTARY

It's Just Grammar. Whom Really Cares?

When in doubt, plead the 1st Amendment.

By Dennis Baron


Americans are convinced that there's a right and a wrong way to write
something. We gleefully point out other people's language mistakes,
though many of us secretly worry that we use "who" when we should be
using "whom," or put the comma in the wrong place, or confuse "which"
and "that." So we buy books to find the answer.

Self-help language books sport attention-grabbing titles and forced
humor. They seldom fulfill their promises. "Painless Grammar,"
according to its blurb, will make you laugh (hah!). "The Well-Tempered
Sentence" seeks to rescue punctuation from the perils of boredom
(yawn). "The Transitive Vampire" aims to keep readers awake with gothic
sentences. (A wooden stake and some caffeine would work better.) "Woe
Is I" is "the grammarphobe's guide to better English in plain English."
(Since when is "Woe is I" idiomatic? Since when is "grammarphobe" plain
English?) "When Bad Grammar Happens to Good People" plays on the common
fear that "how you speak or write is holding you back at work." (Donald
Trump never fired anyone for a solecism.) And "The Complete Idiot's
Guide to Grammar and Style" speaks for itself.

New to this corpus is Lynne Truss' "Eats, Shoots and Leaves," a British
bestseller about where to put the commas that was just released in the
U.S. and now holds the No. 2 spot on the New York Times nonfiction
list, just behind Richard Clarke's book about our counter-terrorism
failures. That should be a measure of how seriously Americans seek out
language advice.

"Eats, Shoots and Leaves" takes its title from a joke. A panda walks
into a bar, has a snack and shoots the place up. When challenged, the
panda points to the definition of "panda" in a poorly punctuated
natural history book: "Large black-and-white mammal, native to China.
Eats, shoots and leaves."

Get it? A bit of British humor. Or humour, for unlike the Harry Potter
books, Truss' treatise preserves its Briticisms.

There's not much chance that a book whose title hinges on a bad joke
poses a threat to such classics as Strunk and White's "Elements of
Style," Henry Fowler's "Dictionary of Modern English Usage" and George
Orwell's "Politics and the English Language." But it shares the faults
of the genre: Relying on such books for advice on writing is like
relying on the almanac for a weather forecast. The information provided
may not fit your individual needs or circumstances.

Another problem of self-help language books is their tendency to slip
up. Fowler made up rules when it suited him. Strunk and White violated
their rules when it suited them. Orwell stole his rules of good English
from Fowler and passed them off as his own. Nobody's perfect.

I agree with Truss that amateur and professional writers often
mis-punctuate, but she fails to prove that bad punctuation causes
misunderstanding. Take the panda joke. Many written versions of it
don't even have commas. The definition simply reads "Eats shoots and
leaves." The ambiguity — the humor — is in the ear of the beholder,
even on the printed page.

But people are buying the panda book, and some of them may even read
it. That's where the problem lies. Usage guides should come with the
warning, "Don't try this at home." These books mislead us into thinking
that correctness guarantees effectiveness. A purist in my neighborhood
once climbed onto the checkout counter at the grocery store and with a
marker changed the express lane's "12 items or less" to "12 items or
fewer."

Correct, perhaps, but ineffective, because it isn't idiomatic.
Sometimes less is more. Churchill got it right: There is some English
up with which we should not put.

There's no silver bullet that will turn bad writing into good, no
just-add-water formula for producing wonderful prose. Books like "Eats,
Shoots and Leaves" make us more aware of our language use but,
paradoxically, this self-consciousness may backfire. In our attempts to
be correct, to follow directions that may not fit the context, we will
make more mistakes, not — ahem — fewer.

American English remains vibrant and effective precisely because we're
skeptical of authorities. When corrected, we plead the 1st Amendment:
"It's a free country, and no one tells me what to say!"

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Dennis Baron is the author of seven books on the English language. He
teaches English and linguistics at the University of Illinois,
Urbana-Champaign.



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If people don't use the language properly in the way it was developed, what is the point of having a language? It's defintions are written to give it meaning, and be able to use the definitions to accurately explain topics, and have everyone be able to understand the concepts, and understand the idea. This is why doctors, and scientists use Latin. It's not going to be evolving, because it's dead.
 
David said:
If people don't use the language properly in the way it was developed, what is the point of having a language? It's defintions are written to give it meaning...

It's --> Its

;)
 
I have to admit, I'm a bit of a grammar Nazi. Emails and text messages sent by me normally take longer to write because I insist on using the full words and not abbrieviations. Text messages are the main threat to good grammar, especially receiving such pearls of wisdom as:

hi how r u 2nite im gr8 met grl 4 fun cm 2 pub now


which tend to fill me with rage. =D
 
I have to agree with you, afcone. I fucking hate the trend toward a race to the bottom with language. Evolution, slang and regional/ethnic changes are a given -even positive. However, laziness just pisses me off.

I tend to think using proper language in a message now rather than butchered, abbreviated crap, is roughly equivalent to the old (lost) courtesy of using handwriting in personal correspondence rather than the typed, impersonal kind.

An art dying? Damn those pesky kids...
 
^^^ Sadly, I have to type. I have the scrawl of a four year old, that is only legible to me :)
 
If life lasted forever then maybe I would bother writting the full word, but for now my text messages will continue to use 'u' in place of 'you' and such.
 
most net grammar nazis are happily unaware of the real technicalities of english grammar - they'll happily post 'OMG why can't you ppl get 'your' and 'you're' right???', but when you ask them about gerunds & split infinitives they go all silent-like whilst they frantically search wikipedia...

;)
 
Grammar is what holds our language together.

The problem is that if we ignore all the grammar rules everything falls apart, but if we're too strict (language is changing all the time, think about puncuation 300 years ago, it is totally different) the language might choke up upon itself. We need to be strict and lenient at the same time.

I <3 grammar...but i'm not too strict about it...
 
Bad grammar online doesn't bother me (that much). It's more annoying to me when you get letters with tons of mistakes in them. (especially if they are professional letters and not just from friends)
 
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you should strive to use proper grammar when possible. of course, most time be easy understand what be saying (hehe), but the more you stray from proper grammar the more arbitrary it can be.

in other words, if you want to be understood, you should try and say things in the accepted way.
 
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