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It's a FACT... MDMA makes you depressed
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I can't speak with fact but I know I was mentally allot healthier before I started doing pills and now that I haven't done any for a year I'm starting to get back to the old self I love.
anecdotal as it may be, and I accept it could have been a million and one other things going on in my life at the time but weekly e usage caused many problems in my life.
Some of which people may like to gloss over and believe don't exist (because it hasn't been proven yet) but think back to when it was theorized that the world was round.
Just because it couldn't have been proved at the time didn't mean the world was flat.
Anyone who denies the fact that real damage may come from e use is stupid.
My problems included, difficulty in speech, especially I noticed a decline in my ability to string words in the correct order, my memory was impaired to the point where if it wasn't happening today I had little chance of remembering it, I had serious mood swings where I could go from being completely happy to feeling so empty and worthless I would burst out crying. My ability to learn also seemed reduced.
I was on a knife edge constantly if someone said something which I though was a bit snide or perhaps someone accidentally bumped me slightly it would be enough to send me in to a rage.
I don't want to go back to wanting to fight everyone who looked the wrong way at me. Constantly thinking negatively about situations.
I didn't care I was so emotionless and yet at the same time a ball of pent up aggression.
If it was a coincidences that this started with my heavy use and ended after sometime of not doing any e then it's the biggest coincidence I've ever come across.
You are fools to think you are ok! Of course it's fun and of course life is about having fun while your hear on this earth but have a little sense and stop denying to yourself that your usage won't encroach on some aspects of your life.
Get over it, it's only one night of fun. Compared to normalness it's cool, but when you drop over the edge of the cliff life long mental clarity seems much more appealing than a pill.
anecdotal as it may be, and I accept it could have been a million and one other things going on in my life at the time but weekly e usage caused many problems in my life.
Some of which people may like to gloss over and believe don't exist (because it hasn't been proven yet) but think back to when it was theorized that the world was round.
Just because it couldn't have been proved at the time didn't mean the world was flat.
Anyone who denies the fact that real damage may come from e use is stupid.
My problems included, difficulty in speech, especially I noticed a decline in my ability to string words in the correct order, my memory was impaired to the point where if it wasn't happening today I had little chance of remembering it, I had serious mood swings where I could go from being completely happy to feeling so empty and worthless I would burst out crying. My ability to learn also seemed reduced.
I was on a knife edge constantly if someone said something which I though was a bit snide or perhaps someone accidentally bumped me slightly it would be enough to send me in to a rage.
I don't want to go back to wanting to fight everyone who looked the wrong way at me. Constantly thinking negatively about situations.
I didn't care I was so emotionless and yet at the same time a ball of pent up aggression.
If it was a coincidences that this started with my heavy use and ended after sometime of not doing any e then it's the biggest coincidence I've ever come across.
You are fools to think you are ok! Of course it's fun and of course life is about having fun while your hear on this earth but have a little sense and stop denying to yourself that your usage won't encroach on some aspects of your life.
Get over it, it's only one night of fun. Compared to normalness it's cool, but when you drop over the edge of the cliff life long mental clarity seems much more appealing than a pill.
Ever since i started e, i started to notice my eating and drinking amount is hardly anything of what it used to be, so i got back into it.
FOOD. If your not eating enough, eat. Stuff yourself up til you can't eat anymore. Drink til your not thirsty anymore.
This'll bring you back for sure, food and drink is what we live on ppl!
FOOD. If your not eating enough, eat. Stuff yourself up til you can't eat anymore. Drink til your not thirsty anymore.
This'll bring you back for sure, food and drink is what we live on ppl!
shoe_box
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lol i just read an article about too much masturbation possibly being linked to depression.. lol but yea everyone is right, you don't know for a fact that its the E.. also people say i have ADHD but i don't.ceryc said:
Gerr UT
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I alreay posted on this topic, but I just wanted to post again after reading what some of you have written. To Johny boy, I agree with what you said, I feel the same way too. I know that this shit is so bad for me, but the one problem is how fun it is. I would not say that I have really ever gone overboard except maybe on a few limited occasions, and after those I felt retarded for like a week. I don't like the fact that a drug changes the kind of person I am. I have a lot of people in my life that I consider good friends, and some eat E with me and some continually tell me that the shit is bad for me. I know the truth I just like to act immature and act like the shit is not bad for me even though it is. I don't care what anyone says there is no doubt that E is bad for you, I mean come on anything that makes you feel that good has to be bad for you, and I mean really bad for you. I know that all people react differently to E, but there is one fact, and that is that E creates far more problems than it solves. I will be done with my pilling days when I get to the date I have set for myself, until that date I really am going to try and be more careful about when I eat E. I just hope when my pilling days are over I am able to live the life I want with out any complications just because I wanted to have fun for one night. I hope that everyone out there makes it out of this shit alright as well because I have seen people who let E take over their lives and the end result is never good.
how offten do you use? how many pills? how spaced appart? how many pills you taken?dreamgirlie19 said:
If you've only taken a handful of times and used responsibly then I can belive it but with sustained use (i was using between 0 and 12 times a month with multiple pills) iresponsible I know but people do seem to think they can't be hurt by pills.
excuse me, but people have been warning me forever about the after depression on e and let me tell you i have done it twice and have neither time had even a slight sense of depression the next morning. i was actually pretty uppity the next mornings. i do get depressed about stuff sometimes believe me but never gottten the after e depression thank god.
I only just discovered this forum and I'm very pleased about that seems like there's loads of info here, however why does everyone seem so arrogant and insensitive, pills are supposed to make u open kind and down-to-earth...
If this bloke says he feels depressed there's no need to stick the boot in is there? Thats just fuckin nasty
If this bloke says he feels depressed there's no need to stick the boot in is there? Thats just fuckin nasty
I'm from the UK, over here we have proper clubs, proper tunes and pills with decent amount of mdma in 
You won't feel any negative effects first few times u do pills, gradually tho, u will, I've been doing them pretty much every week for a year and a half (I stopped 8 weeks ago) I've been taking from about 2 for the first few months up to about 6-7 last few months, if it was a big party I'd prolly have 7-13 over a 24hour period.
If you say you take pills every 4 weeks and u only do 1 or to u can't really comment on if it makes u depressed, that isn't the case for most people, people who enjoy doing pills generally do them every week with a week off every now and then.
I don't think 1 would really do much to me even if my tolerance was as low as a first time user...
don't u people like gettin proper off ya face?
You won't feel any negative effects first few times u do pills, gradually tho, u will, I've been doing them pretty much every week for a year and a half (I stopped 8 weeks ago) I've been taking from about 2 for the first few months up to about 6-7 last few months, if it was a big party I'd prolly have 7-13 over a 24hour period.
If you say you take pills every 4 weeks and u only do 1 or to u can't really comment on if it makes u depressed, that isn't the case for most people, people who enjoy doing pills generally do them every week with a week off every now and then.
I don't think 1 would really do much to me even if my tolerance was as low as a first time user...
don't u people like gettin proper off ya face?
noxious_infestation
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I agree with robo989 on this one ,people sometimes just feel that they should be depressed after doin pills but it takes quite alot of pills to make u feel really depressed!!! just cause the next day you feel like shit and are wrecked doesn't mean your depressed, i think alot of people sometimes mix these up! cause depression is somethin really serious not just feelin a bit crap !!
monkyfunky
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I don't think that's fair. I only ever had 1 occassiona where I felt depressed in the following days of taking mdma. And I have taken well over 200 pills, often in large doses at one time.Raas said:
Miss Junglist
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Amen to MDMA's defense!
I suffered from depression, crying all the time, before I touched any drug.
E has made my life better in every way! I've learned stuff about myself, and people, I would never have bothered to notice before. Every day of the week is better. Music is mindblowin, friends are better and my dancin is much better!!
You see these miserable people draggin their feet about who look like they haven't smiled in six months. How the hell can you let your life denegrate into that? ..There's so much you can do to help yourself, and by doing that you're helping everyone else, because you're a better person to be around. You can totally engineer your lifestyle and you know when you're on the right tracks. E has never, ever caused anything bad for me!! If I'm absolutely knackered the next day, that's because I just danced for 9 hours and didn't go to bed at all. Anyone would be knackered.. you'd feel much worse STRAIGHT!
Doing one pill a week I feel great until about tuesday, I've never regretted a thing. I think it's all down to your attitude. If you're looking for a scapegoat, you can always blame drugs.
I suffered from depression, crying all the time, before I touched any drug.
E has made my life better in every way! I've learned stuff about myself, and people, I would never have bothered to notice before. Every day of the week is better. Music is mindblowin, friends are better and my dancin is much better!!
You see these miserable people draggin their feet about who look like they haven't smiled in six months. How the hell can you let your life denegrate into that? ..There's so much you can do to help yourself, and by doing that you're helping everyone else, because you're a better person to be around. You can totally engineer your lifestyle and you know when you're on the right tracks. E has never, ever caused anything bad for me!! If I'm absolutely knackered the next day, that's because I just danced for 9 hours and didn't go to bed at all. Anyone would be knackered.. you'd feel much worse STRAIGHT!
Doing one pill a week I feel great until about tuesday, I've never regretted a thing. I think it's all down to your attitude. If you're looking for a scapegoat, you can always blame drugs.
wow, what an old thread. And one i should have checked up on also.
Anyway, in reply to:
My point is, depression is a subsequent result of having a low level of serotonin. Pills will give you that low level, assuming you've taken enough.
Maybe it would be 200mg, 300mg or maybe even a gram of MDMA for some... whatever, everyone has a limit and enough MDMA will see anyone depressed the next day.
Anyway, in reply to:
My point is, depression is a subsequent result of having a low level of serotonin. Pills will give you that low level, assuming you've taken enough.
Maybe it would be 200mg, 300mg or maybe even a gram of MDMA for some... whatever, everyone has a limit and enough MDMA will see anyone depressed the next day.
While I still think there's many decades of research before we can conclude whether or not MDMA is directly related with Long term DEPRESSION, I think in the mean time we can safely say that moderation is the key.
Think of your brain as a car's engine. If you thrash your car all the time, you could make the assumption that the engine isn't going to last as long as it should. On the other hand, if you thrash your car every so often, there's going to be minimal effects to the reliability ofthe engine.
Just like your brain - if you take the drug in moderation and give yourself time to recover (both mentally and physically), the long-term negative effects should be very minimal, if any.
At the end of the day, you can't say it's a fact that MDMA does cause long-term depression. For some people it may, and for some it may NOT. There are just too many factors to take into consideration to make such an assumption that "MDMA directly causes long-term depression".
Think of your brain as a car's engine. If you thrash your car all the time, you could make the assumption that the engine isn't going to last as long as it should. On the other hand, if you thrash your car every so often, there's going to be minimal effects to the reliability ofthe engine.
Just like your brain - if you take the drug in moderation and give yourself time to recover (both mentally and physically), the long-term negative effects should be very minimal, if any.
At the end of the day, you can't say it's a fact that MDMA does cause long-term depression. For some people it may, and for some it may NOT. There are just too many factors to take into consideration to make such an assumption that "MDMA directly causes long-term depression".