Israel is under attack

[nepalnt21]

"a country of children" lmao

i figured most everyone well versed in this would be aware of the facts and that i was being "poetic"; how about " a country whose population is half children", then?

nobody in their right mind would think i actually meant it's only children down on the ground in gaza, but if you wanna pretend your pedantry actually exposed my cia mind kontrol techniques or whatever, feel free... lol "gaslighting"...

 

[nepalnt21]

gives him a pass to become a terrorist?

never did i imply that that was the case, and i suspect you know that... speaking of potential gaslighting...

probably more than one.

i didn't ask about the leading "theories" on the matter... starving a country full of children requires a bit more than some claims and pontifications.

an excuse for that too?

if it's true, that seems to be pretty damning. and i'll say as much if it turns out to be true.

hmu when we have more than idf (known liars) claims.

 

[steewith2ees]

i figured most everyone well versed in this would be aware of the facts and that i was being "poetic"; how about " a country whose population is half children", then?

nobody in their right mind would think i actually meant it's only children down on the ground in gaza, but if you wanna pretend your pedantry actually exposed my cia mind kontrol techniques or whatever, feel free... lol "gaslighting"... lmfao

What have facts got to do with the points being made? They just get in the way of peoples beliefs. Its not of course just children on the ground, a minority of Gazan Palestinians are actually over 18.

 

[mal3volent]

never did i imply that that was the case, and i suspect you know that... speaking of potential gaslighting...

forgive me for assuming you were trying to actually make a point. Why else would you bring up his dead family other than to excuse his behavior or elicit sympathy?

i didn't ask about the leading "theories" on the matter... starving a country full of children requires a bit more than some claims and pontifications.

Appealing to common sense isn't a "theory". Again I think it's funny you reply to my post but fail to address the overall point. You know, about the UN?

Also about Hamas attacking aid trucks, hoarding supplies, using all their aid money to build a network of underground tunnels and terrorist infrastructure rather than using it to help their people.... shouldn't you care more about these things if you REALLY cared about starving Palestinians...

Shouldn't you be advocating for Hamas to surrender and release their hostages (Including children)? Isn't that the quickest way to end the suffering, rather than blaming Israel who are trying to eliminate the threat to their own people.

 

[nepalnt21]

Why else would you bring up his dead family other than to excuse his behavior or illicit sympathy?

my whole point was that they didn't need to stop funding unrwa, and that israel should stop the war crimes

 

[mal3volent]

my whole point was that they didn't need to stop funding unrwa, and that israel should stop the war crimes

yeah let's keep giving money to groups that are sympathetic to Hamas.

 

[mal3volent]

The recent drone strike that killed 7 aid workers from WCK appears to be deliberate, at least given all the evidence currently available. It is currently being investigated and all involved should be held accountable.

Strike That Killed World Central Kitchen Workers Bears Hallmarks of Israeli Precision Strike - bellingcat

Bellingcat analysed images of three destroyed and damaged vehicles struck by Israeli forces.

www.bellingcat.com

'Unforgivable': IDF opens probe after seven aid workers killed in central Gaza​

An independent fact-finding body in Israel is investigating the incident, IDF Spokesperson Daniel Hagari said.​

The IDF opened an investigation after seven international aid workers from the World Central Kitchen (WCK) organization were killed in an airstrike in the Deir al-Balah area of the Gaza Strip, early Tuesday morning.

According to Palestinian reports, the IDF struck a civilian car the aid workers were in on a road near the beach. Airstrikes were also reported by Palestinian media in a separate part of Deir al-Balah at around the same time.

IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari spoke with WCK founder Chef Jose Anders on Tuesday, expressing his condolences to the families of the victims and the organization.

"As a professional military committed to international law, we are committed to examining our operations thoroughly and transparently," said Hagari. "We also express sincere sorrow to our allied nations who have been doing and continue to do so much to assist those in need."

Hagari stressed that the IDF is reviewing the incident "at the highest levels" to understand what happened. "We will be opening a probe to examine this serious incident further. This will help us reduce the risk of such an event from occurring again."

The IDF spokesperson added that the incident would be investigated in the Fact-Finding and Assessment Mechanism: an independent, professional, and expert body.

"For the last few months, the IDF has been working closely with the World Central Kitchen to assist them in fulfilling their noble mission of helping bring food and humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza," said Hagari. "WCK also came to help Israelis after the massacre of October 7th; they were one of the first NGOs here. The work of WCK is critical; they are on the frontlines of humanity. We will get to the bottom of this and we will share our findings transparently."

'Unforgivable': IDF opens probe after seven aid workers killed in central Gaza

An independent fact-finding body in Israel is investigating the incident, IDF Spokesperson Daniel Hagari said.

www.jpost.com

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Of course it's deliberate, previously nothing ever happened but now that westerners died they have no choice. The IDF is so rotten, it's so obvious they have instilled a culture that just about anything goes...

‘Not a normal war’: doctors say children have been targeted by Israeli snipers in Gaza

IDF says it ‘completely rejects’ charge that its soldiers deliberately fired on any of the thousands of civilians killed in Israeli offensive

www.theguardian.com

This is an exceptionally grim article, gets worse with every paragraph

 

[mal3volent]

No doubt them being westerners intensifies the urgency they feel to launch an investigation and be transparent. And I only hope that they will be fully transparent.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

 

[Deleted member 521610]

its a war.

War aint pretty.

Every army kills civillians. Every country has commited war crimes. Hell america has killed millions of civillians in all their wars.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Hell america has killed millions of civillians in all their wars.

And the only Country to have ever used a Nuclear Bomb on people too.

 

[montel]

Haven't been here for a while, but clearly the supporters of "genocide joe" and "benjamin the butcher" are still holding strong to their beliefs.

The only problem with their logic is that it seems to operate something like this:

"You killed my children so I can kill your family, your relatives, and everyone you ever met".

Nowhere except for in the parameters of this twisted war is that kind of logic ever justified. Sure, we all hate what Hamas have done - but that doesn't justify killing thousands and thousand of innocent people to "get your revenge". It doesn't. This is called an act of genocide.

But the pro-Israel brigade here seem to think that's okay?

Why am I not surprised?

Here's an interesting breaking story (comment) that sums this all up in one



I'm not here to post some bullshit about conspiracy theories - but here we have clear evidence of how deeply Israeli politics and influence are entrenched in UK politics. Hence the constant unwavering support - even when the rest of the world (and any sane person) can clearly see that is one group of people intent on wiping out another group of people.

I also find it ironic that Hamas are labelled "terrorists" because they want the total removal of Israel - yet Israel, who also what the total destruction and removal of the Palestinians are somehow "not" terrorists? Can someone explain this to me here? This total and utter hatred of the Arabs from the Israelis goes back to day one. It isn't something new. Ditto for the Palestinians. So again, why is one group a terrorist and the other one isn't? Both sides have committed equally sickening atrocities - so we can discard that angle... I don't get it?

A few pages before this I posted a video that takes a deep dive into how Israel practically controls and manages the entire foreign intelligence apparatus of the UK government. But if you missed it, here it is again;



That's why they keep pumping them full of artillery.

I can only hope that genocide joe and benjy the butcher, along with all the others funding this genocide, are brought to trial in a war crimes tribunal when the dust settles and there's nothing left of Gaza or the people who once lived there.

Clearly there isn't long to go now.

 

[montel]

yeah let's keep giving money to groups that are sympathetic to Hamas.

Israel, last I checked, has yet to actually provide proof that UNWRA are "giving money to Hamas".

If there was an abundance of proof, surely they'd have plastered it all over the internet? Did I miss something?

No, I didn't - So what is even more sickening than the act of genocide we are seeing is that Israel's war machine is also trying to destroy the aid convoys that are keeping people alive - but then this is all part of the strategy, as already clearly outlined here:

Israel’s use of disproportionate force is a long-established tactic – with a clear aim | Paul Rogers

The strategy goes well beyond defeating an opponent: it seeks to destroy key infrastructure and the economy, says academic Paul Rogers

www.theguardian.com

What does it take for the pro-Israeli users here on Bluelight to admit that this is wrong? Honestly?

The only thing the events of this war have shown me is that there are, indeed, a great many psychopaths out there who really do have no regard for human life. Far more than I previously thought, let's put it that way. Oh, and a greater belief that WW3 is probably going to happen within our lifetime.

And we'd probably deserve it.

 

[mal3volent]

Israel, last I checked, has yet to actually provide proof that UNWRA are "giving money to Hamas".

why did you quote me saying "sympathetic to Hamas" and then directly under it change it to "give money to Hamas" ? Pretty vulgar display of moving the goalposts there. I already demonstrated the ways I see the UN being sympathetic to Hamas and none of them included the word money.

 

[mal3volent]

 

[Didgital]

I have completely lost all respect and support for the state of Israel. 20 civillians casualties for 1 hamas operative. Netanyahu is a murderer.

 

[-=SS=-]

A few pages before this I posted a video that takes a deep dive into how Israel practically controls and manages the entire foreign intelligence apparatus of the UK government. But if you missed it, here it is again;

This is total bollocks mate. The UK spy agencies are the oldest modern military agencies, over a century old now. They trained and established the CIA and Mossad personnel. GCHQ does all the hardcore grunt cyber work, not the NSA. The British have been doing this longer than anyone else, especially when it comes to signals and electronics (Marconi/Radio was dominated by the British).

Five-eyes was conceived by the British, and American's, before Israel even came into existence. This video is just an extension of the 'jews run everything' myth.

 

[mal3volent]

This is total bollocks mate. The UK spy agencies are the oldest modern military agencies, over a century old now. They trained and established the CIA and Mossad personnel. GCHQ does all the hardcore grunt cyber work, not the NSA. The British have been doing this longer than anyone else, especially when it comes to signals and electronics (Marconi/Radio was dominated by the British).

Five-eyes was conceived by the British, and American's, before Israel even came into existence. This video is just an extension of the 'jews run everything' myth.

 

[montel]

This is total bollocks mate. The UK spy agencies are the oldest modern military agencies, over a century old now. They trained and established the CIA and Mossad personnel. GCHQ does all the hardcore grunt cyber work, not the NSA. The British have been doing this longer than anyone else, especially when it comes to signals and electronics (Marconi/Radio was dominated by the British).

Five-eyes was conceived by the British, and American's, before Israel even came into existence. This video is just an extension of the 'jews run everything' myth.

"This is total bollocks mate" isn't the best counter-argument.

You also haven't picked apart any specific point except tell me that somehow "British is best" when it comes to spying.

Let me break it to you gently, you haven't changed my mind - and I see a whole lot more truth in that video than your comment.