What about all the innocent people Obama killed In Pakistan and Afganistan. The silence on the part of the media and the left is comical in light of all the noise made now about The IDF. All those drone strikes? All those dead women and children?
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yeah fuck obama too
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You're talking about liberals and democrats. They are a center right ideology at most. People on the actual left don't support Obama or his indiscriminate drone bombing.
What were all the Arab nations and Nasser saying before the, Six Day War?
Answer, push them(Isreal) into the sea. If Isreal's neighbors had their way; there would be a second Holocaust. Personally I think the level of restraint that Isreal has shown is much much more than I would.
Nobody cared, and few know about 3 Congo wars that left well over 5 million dead. Why, because it was of no concern to most of the media, which is sick. Poor black Africans dying means nothing to the media, even when that number reaches into the millions. It seems black lives don't matter, when it comes to poor Africans, which is so far beyond sick and hypocritical that the media picks and chooses who it cares about, the way they do.
Answer, push them(Isreal) into the sea. If Isreal's neighbors had their way; there would be a second Holocaust. Personally I think the level of restraint that Isreal has shown is much much more than I would.
Nobody cared, and few know about 3 Congo wars that left well over 5 million dead. Why, because it was of no concern to most of the media, which is sick. Poor black Africans dying means nothing to the media, even when that number reaches into the millions. It seems black lives don't matter, when it comes to poor Africans, which is so far beyond sick and hypocritical that the media picks and chooses who it cares about, the way they do.
With all do respect: the noise they made was barely a whisper compared to what is going on now.
Are you joking, they are the left, center right my ass, I can barely contain my laughter, yeah Obama the right leaning moderate, you have got to be kidding.
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He is a moderate. Study economics and history.
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I've asked this before but if there are really 30,000-40,000 dead Palestinian women and children, where are the piles of bodies? Where are the photos?
You would think if there were enough to fill Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia there would be some photographic evidence of bodies like in other humanitarian disasters of similar scale?
Remember, we are talking about a piece of land the size of Las Vegas.
You would think if there were enough to fill Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia there would be some photographic evidence of bodies like in other humanitarian disasters of similar scale?
Remember, we are talking about a piece of land the size of Las Vegas.
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It's kinda hard to get that stuff when borders have been sealed to most journalists and humanitarian aid workers. You're not gonna get a lot of pictures when the area has been sealed off.
Associated Press journalists have attested to seeing large numbers of bodies at airstrikes, morgues, funerals, and makeshift graves. Israel just killed a hundred more people as they approached an aid truck yesterday or today.
Hopefully we can still trust the AP
I don't doubt that it's possible. But I also respectfully doubt it;
If there's one thing everyone should know by now, when it comes to statistics and media coverage, is that you have to doubt everything. The amount of bullshit that comes out of screens and speakers is unreal. Especially when it comes to world stage events.
Remember Hamas claimed 500+ people died at that hospital and the world press parroted that claim. Equally the whole thing could have been a contrived Israeli propaganda exercise. Who the fuck knows.
However, Hamas took hostages. They still have hostages. Fuck around and find out?
If there's one thing everyone should know by now, when it comes to statistics and media coverage, is that you have to doubt everything. The amount of bullshit that comes out of screens and speakers is unreal. Especially when it comes to world stage events.
Remember Hamas claimed 500+ people died at that hospital and the world press parroted that claim. Equally the whole thing could have been a contrived Israeli propaganda exercise. Who the fuck knows.
However, Hamas took hostages. They still have hostages. Fuck around and find out?
With all do respect , I am at my doctors office, so ...Using tax payer money to bail out the fattest capitalist bankers in the country... Yeah very Marxist principles there
Anyway, we're going off topic
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Plus, Hamas (their active government) is probably not even interested in calculating the number of dead. It's almost irrelevant to them, they only want to count the number of dead Jews.It's kinda hard to get that stuff when borders have been sealed to most journalists and humanitarian aid workers. You're not gonna get a lot of pictures when the area has been sealed off.
Associated Press journalists have attested to seeing large numbers of bodies at airstrikes, morgues, funerals, and makeshift graves. Israel just killed a hundred more people as they approached an aid truck yesterday or today.
Hopefully we can still trust the AP
It's generally the government that tallies that thing.
He didn't bring up the Protocols of Zion did he?
He got the Affordable Care Act passed. He would have had Medicare for all passed but he couldn't get enough votes from both parties.
He signed into law s-Chip which is government-funded health care for children.
The Lily ledbetter fair pay act.
And that's just three of what he signed.
That's not a moderate.
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Your first & second replies are non sensical. My point is that people who falsely cite Geneva IV when criticising Israel are ignorant and often hypocritical to boot. It smacks of Holocaust Inversion. Using a Holocaust Prevention tool to accuse Israel of Genovide, Beligerent Occupation & Ethnic Cleansing is reprehendw and of course 100% wrong.EXACTLY!
it doesn't have to to break international law.
and yet i've cited sections of the conventions and nobody has tried to give any substantive rebuttals when i've done so... now why is that?
ppl simply regurgitate that TIRED baloney about population from some arbitrary date decades ago. ffs, why would that matter? they make- believe it matters cause they've not cared to read the concise geneva genocide coinvention statutes.
and what makes you more of an expert on international law than literal experts in international laws, including icj judges that ruled it's plausible that israel is breaking the genocide convention?
have you read the statutes of the geneva genocide convention yet?
hahaha wait, whaaaaat?!?!
speaking of not vetting your sources, bro... you've lost all credibility with that claim... unless you have the magical nonexistent evidence to back it up?
using bombs that are too big for the specific targets of one of the most advanced militaries with some of the most advanced tech/ intel, using them in urban areas of extreme population density constitutes a war crime because they ARE OBLIGATED to make an attempt to avoid civilian casualties. instead, they have been INDISCRIMINATELY killing civilians while using genocidal rhetoric (amalek, no innocent civilians type rhetoric, full siege of gaza rhetoric) and cutting off their food and water, blocking humanitarian aid... etc...
If as you say, you have cited portions of internatiomal agreements without any rebuttal, I reckon the average layman would get fall asleep trying to read & comprehend even 1 such agreemment (award for the longest sentence of any post currently on BL). If you care to do so, cite anything now & I will be more than happy to reply post haste.
As to why people cite populafion data from decades ago, I can only answer for myself. The Palestinian Narrative revolves are al Nalhba. Most Palestinians & their supporters claim that Israel Ethnically Cleansed 700,000 Palestinians, stole their homes & land. Citing populatation stats disproves that contention. It also showed that the same thing did not occur during the so called "Israeli Occupation" ehich started in 1967 and of course has continued until the present.
Your belief that these stats are only cited because people deflect the fact that they have not bothered to read Geneva IV is non sensical. I know Geneva IV by heart.
Who says that I am an expert, let along more suited to contemplate these issues. As for the present dog & pony show at the ICC, it is worthless.
During this war in Gaza, 160,000 Yemeni women & children have died of starvation, medical outbreaks & of course, as Collateral Damage. Who cared?
In the Central Africsn Republic 80,000 have perished. Russian Contractors have been especially brutal as have Rewandan paramilitaries. Did the ICC ponder this?
In Somalia tens of thousands have dief from starvation, disease & of course, slaughtered by clan paramilitaries, Islamic State, Kenyan soldiers, etc.
These are just 3 of the 78 armed conflicts taking place during the Gazan War. Yet the ICC chose to entertain this pathetic pile of propaganda. Israel is not subject to the ICC & yet is not vulnerable to anything the court dishes out. The ICC Charter stipulates rhat only sovereign states may petition the court. Yet here is an entity falsely claiming stathood & petitioning the court to prosecute a non signatory state. It is Kafkaesque.
Beyond the ICC farce...State an accusation & I will factually debunk it ( but if true will reasily say so). It is as simple as that. I will add, plenty of esteemed jurists happen to agree with my opinions.
As for using bombs that "are too large," you are making a very basic error. In your defence it is an error maxe by plenty of laymen. The principal of Proportionality has nothing to do with that. In fact, no principsl nor any extant law has anything to do with that. Proportionality has to deal with Military Value versus Possible Collateral Damage, & nothing to do with specificity of armanents. Say I saw a messenger of Bin Laden enter s school where he is dropping off an explosive. Youk can flatten a portion of thet school to eliminate Bin Laden's stooge even though children
& a few adults will be killed.
To add, there is no way to prosecute anyone on this because the target's military value is calculated entirely subjectively.
As for Genocidal rhetoric, you need to provide examples. If not, I cannot comment in the claim.
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so no answer then ?
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It's kinda hard to get that stuff when borders have been sealed to most journalists and humanitarian aid workers. You're not gonna get a lot of pictures when the area has been sealed off.
Associated Press journalists have attested to seeing large numbers of bodies at airstrikes, morgues, funerals, and makeshift graves. Israel just killed a hundred more people as they approached an aid truck yesterday or today.
Hopefully we can still trust the AP
Remember when all the news outlets reported that Israel bombed that hospital killing 500 , then the story changed a wee bit ?
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