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So it's okay to kill 10,000+ women and children in the name of "terror" - and they're not really human beings, they're just things that happen to be in the way?

Incredible how utterly brainwashed you are to mass-murder.

You refer to the dead as 'Hamas' - how on earth do you know that every single dead woman and child is a fighting member of Hamas?

Again, the Nazi parallels here are striking. First you dehumanize them - then you slaughter them.

No amount of words or explanations can justify the relentless slaughter of these people - combined with zero admission that Israel is the cause of the problem by stealing Palestinian land and forcing them to live in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet - in utterly dire conditions.

It beggars belief, it really does.

Growing up, time and time again - I've always been told that if WW3 ever happens if will start in the middle-east. I guess with that kind of mindset we're now only years away from a very real global catastrophe. Keep it up, keep it up.

But don't worry - if you're Jewish I believe you'll be saved because some phantom ghost someone invented in an old book that was re-written multiple times says so.

We're fucked, let's be honest here. The only saving grace is that it is assumed that Israel probably doesn't have the ability to fire missiles with a nuclear payload (yet) - although we don't really know 100% because Israel isn't telling anyone and has zero transparency regarding their nuclear program. There is a global overseeing committee (watchdog) for nukes - but Israel has never been a part of it.

These are dark times - and if this war/massacre proves anything - it's that as far as human beings go, we seem to have devolved rather than evolved since the days of the cavemen.
 
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Wait, can you remind who "owned" the land that was given to Israel?

You also live on occupied land that was paid for with blood, so perhaps you should leave and donate it to a native?
It seems like your type is against colonialism and ethnic cleansing, but in this situation it's different?
Maybe nobody "owned" it like it was a registered state, but if your family had been living in an area for many generations, you're basically indigenous.
I heard people go on about how the Transatlantic slave trade was the worst thing ever and it was bad but times were different then.
This is happening now and began 75 years ago which wasn't that long ago. It was directly after the horrors of WW2.
So you can't really compare the actions of how we expect a country to behave today with the actions of nations centuries ago.
We've either evolved as humans or we haven't.
 
Because they've been persecuted, scapegoated, and killed everywhere they've gone for thousands of years.
I guess they are just innocent angels who never do anything wrong and it's a huge coincidence and everyone is just jealous to the point that it drives them to genocidal infatuations...

Then we give them a tiny slice of desert and all Hell breaks loose.
Because they used terroristic practices, massacred some of the local population and kicked out a large number more during its founding.
So yeah the Hell began then for the population who were there originally and we've seen the consequences of that for decades.
It may be a small piece of land but it's also an extremely important piece of land for all 3 Abrahamic religions which comprises a LOT of people.

Every other ethnic group has somewhere they can go and feel safe. Most of The Old Testament isn't a historical document but there are historical documents and artifacts that trace their history to that part of the world centuries before Islam existed.
Kurds? There's no Kurdistan. Plenty of groups who don't have a safe haven.
Jews are quite safe in the West. Ironically Israel is the most dangerous place for Jewish people.
It should be the opposite.
Also the biblical Israelites that the old testament speaks of from the area, I think you'll have a very hard time finding solid evidence linking the modern-day Jews (especially the Ashkenazi) to them.
So you can't really have it both ways with the religious argument. Most Israelis don't even believe in God, they're secular. You can argue that Judaism is a race, but that they have more of a claim to the land than people they displaced who had previously been there for centuries up until this day? That's gonna be tough.
 
Care to list all the conspiracies you think are true, just to put your views on Israel into context? Be sure not to leave any out. 😉
You can google "conspiracy theories that turned out to be true" and see many long lists.

But I would start with the USS Liberty attack, where Israeli warplanes bombed their ally the US and tried to blame it on Egypt.
 
Again, the Nazi parallels here are striking. First you dehumanize them - then you slaughter them.
Yeah, no. Let's not dilute the Nazi metaphor when it's not actually apt to use it.

And you have it all backwards. It's not the Jewish 'side' that regards all of the other side to be rats that mush be expelled because of their idiotic religious conditioning.
 
Why exactly isn't the Nazi parallel relevant? Given that they are one and the same?

You dehumanize the enemy so people see them as things and not people - and then you kill them. It's what the Nazis did to the Jews, it's what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

Just one small example:


"Kristyan Benedict, Amnesty International UK’s crisis response manager, said: “Anything that humanises Palestinians, especially children from Gaza, threatens Israel’s racist system of apartheid and ongoing occupation … hence [UKLFI’s] draconian and ill-judged approach to this children’s art exhibition.”
 
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The only thing I can see in that video is poking her with the gun to get her to stop waving and to move, not forcing to wave

you can literally hear him say "wave to camera" . There are other videos of the same thing with other hostages. I posted one the other day but you probably didn't watch it or just brushed it off.
 
Some of the Jewish hostages that been released look like they been well treated.
Few of them look like they want some hamas dick 🤣
 
I guess they are just innocent angels who never do anything wrong and it's a huge coincidence and everyone is just jealous to the point that it drives them to genocidal infatuations...

what are you implying here exactly? 🤔

Because they used terroristic practices, massacred some of the local population and kicked out a large number more during its founding.

yeah dude, in that same time period the Holocaust happened. We dropped atomic bombs on Japan. Lots of fucked up shit happened.

But there have been many paths to peace proposed in the decades since then and they were all rejected. Because many there don't want peace or coexistence.

you said it yourself-- the world is different now. Israel isn't going away and they have a right to be there. So hope future Palestinian leaders will abandon their religious bloodlust and give way to a more progressive society.
 
Some of the Jewish hostages that been released look like they been well treated.
Few of them look like they want some hamas dick 🤣

Another propaganda victim with demented thoughts.

Real fine bunch you guys are. 👍
 
Another propaganda victim with demented thoughts.

Real fine bunch you guys are. 👍
Ye no kids are gettin slaughtered and after hamas are gone everyone will just return to Gaza. It’s completely intact. No genocide at all.

Too much footage of children being slaughtered to be propaganda mate. Ur a sheep that is being led.

Fuck Israel. Killer of children.
 
Ye no kids are gettin slaughtered and after hamas are gone everyone will just return to Gaza. It’s completely intact. No genocide at all.

Too much footage of children being slaughtered to be propaganda mate. Ur a sheep that is being led.

Fuck Israel. Killer of children.

Yeah because you care so much about children right?

Care to show us the picture of the hostage girl you claimed wants "Hamas dick" ?

Because I've seen the same comment going around social media.

"First time she's seen a real man"
"He's not going to marry you"
"She wants some Hamas dick"

These are young girls and young women. Likely already the victims of sexual assault. And you are here making jokes about them wanting to be fucked by the people who kidnapped them and murdered their family members.

As I said, your character is on display for all to see.
 
Fuck Israel. Killer of children.
Hamas burnt children alive. This is not a thing that can be allowed to go unpunished if you value a world where kids don't get burnt alive. Israel cannot not respond if they do not want this barbarity to continue.

Fwiw, I actually increasingly think that their strategy here is less than optimal. They've played into the hands of Hamas and Iran by creating a highly public killing field of (yes) innocent people. They've been creating the exact propaganda that Hamas and Iran were angling for.

Anyway, after your comment re: 'hostage wanting Hamas dick', I think you've re-established what sort of person you are.
 
Hamas burnt children alive. This is not a thing that can be allowed to go unpunished if you value a world where kids don't get burnt alive. Israel cannot not respond if they do not want this barbarity to continue.

Fwiw, I actually increasingly think that their strategy here is less than optimal. They've played into the hands of Hamas and Iran by creating a highly public killing field of (yes) innocent people. They've been creating the exact propaganda that Hamas and Iran were angling for.

Anyway, after your comment re: 'hostage wanting Hamas dick', I think you've re-established what sort of person you are.

It's easy for us to think about how Hamas is winning the propaganda war but if I put myself in Israel's shoes ... you still wake up everyday with the knowledge that they've vowed to attack over and over again. Lots of questions will have to be answered regarding the massive intelligence failure, Netanyahu's failures, and they will for sure face heavy criticism for their military efforts. But everyone is against them anyway. Even if they ended the war now, everyone who hates them now will still hate them. The media would not suddenly start respecting them either.

They just gotta do what has to be done and hope for the best.
 
Agreed. I think it's more important for Israel to win the military war than the war of ideas. I just wish there was a way that caused less harm to civilians.
 
Over 11000 civilians were killed in 4 weeks and 50% were children. If those statistics are correct then Israel should be looking at war crime charges.
To call it a war is an absolute joke. It’s one of the most advanced and funded armies on the planet
Killing women and children.
Of course Israel should try to do destroy hamas but what’s happening here is just wrong.
 
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