Again, just read that book I recommended.
I've got more important books to read at the moment which are relevant to my life.
The problem is that the founding of Israel should never have gone ahead in the first place - and history has repeatedly proven this.
It shouldn't have happened in the way it happened, and I believe the global ruling elite are playing geopolitical games at everyone's expense. Granted. But we are where we are
now, we can't roll back the clock, Israel isn't going anywhere and it's pointless to cling on to this as a point to use in debate on the subject. The Arab side clings to it and makes it a foundation of their position, hoping to play the emotional card on outsiders, but the fact of the matter is they rejected the initial two-state solution and then started a war against Israel, and lost. From that point they lost all legitimate claim to using that argument at all.
There was no Jewish population there for hundreds of years, perhaps thousands in significant numbers.
There have always been Jews in the region. Numbers is not a stake/argument either. The fact of the matter is the land was under Ottoman control, then passed to British control, because war. This is the history of the world, and again we are where we are. If it hadn't been the Ottoman's or British, it would have been somebody else.
Listen, I'm neutral on this. I'm certainly no fan of the ruling elite either as anyone on this forum will attest. But I think you (and others) give far too much credence to the Arab world. They may very well be being played by Western powers - the British have been meddling in the region for 100+ years e.g. see Saudi Arabia history. But on the flip side of this the Arabs generally speaking have
nothing besides oil. They are trying to play one of the only cards they have available, which is religious anger and fervour in combination with garnering sympathy (poorly) from the rest of the world.
It is comparable to the indignation that many black people feel today towards the West and white people generally, white people who have absolutely no connection to the slavery and in their own way were just as much as slaves to the Anglo-American enterprise i.e. see British history on land enclosures, industrial revolution, etc. The point is that neither the Arabs or black people
have to fall into this trap of expressing anger towards a group of people who haven't actually done anything to them. The 1000+ Israeli's had done nothing. Just like the average British or American person has done nothing.
The irony is the Arabs (and black people) actually hold tremendous power. If they would only stop falling into the devils trap, so to speak, and refuse to play that game then the violence would evaporate. In the current context Hamas didn't
have to attack innocent civilians, and as soon as they did they just fell straight into the trap again and invited more retribution from the Israeli state. I don't have much sympathy because there's too many people under the spell of the lslamic faith who aren't challenging their own authority figures and arguing for a position of peace, and instead just default into the easy trap of hatred towards Israel (and Jews generally). It has to be resisted at that ground level. Likewise this is why I have little sympathy for the black community who fall into the offered garbage culture of 'drill' etc that encourages violent impulses, or playing up to the indignation of crimes committed to their ancestors but which they personally have zero connection to. I should also say I have no sympathy for the British and American public who on large also continue to fall for our own charades as well. We are all failing to see through a lot of shit that really we should have by now.
