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schizopath said:
Of course hamas is a terrorist group but how many tens of thousands of civilians have IDF killed "accidentally" in the past 10 years? Yeah, shit like that might make palestinans little angry you know
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So attack the IDF. You're basically justifying the murder, torture, rape, burning and mutilation of innocent people just because of their countries military.

Hamas aren't "a little angry". Your woke mindset needs to see them as freedom fighters, as noble slaves standing up to the master. This is absolutely untrue. They are ideologically enthralled fascist animals who belong to a death cult that "rewards" murder and who's ultimate aim is to finish the holocaust.

You know that when Jews started returning to Palestine in the early 1900s, they were basically refugees fleeing European pogroms and seeking asylum in the only place in the world where they've been safe, that they could ever call home. Nowhere else would settle them. And then we have the Holocaust- you think they were wrong to flee Europe? What would you expect them to do when they finally found a place of refuge in a world of either anomsity or indifference? And even before Israel declaring statehood, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was aligning Arabs with fucking Hitler.

This isn't about freedom or colonialism. It is about the ancient hatred of the Jews being enacted in the modern world, a world where the progressive leftists add their own hate to the mix.
 
mal3volent said:
You do know that these "gangs" are funded by countries like Iran , right?

It is actually hilarious that you are downplaying the danger they pose while simultaneously warning of "war destroying the world". They openly proclaim that they love death more than life.
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There is no proof of that tbf. Are you one of these people that think the ME hates America bc ‘they are jealous of our freedom’?
The US and Israel have been bombing soft targets, murdering their families, installing puppets, etc etc for forever and a day, now. I can assure you these people feel justified, bc they likely are.
It’s fascinating see how many bluers have neo conservative politics with their foreign policy.
The central bank and it’s for profit wars are a necessity to keep this fiat grift going, so I’m not shocked by the insane propaganda push for this war. But remember, if you were wrong with the Iraqi invasion, now is the time you can make up for it and be on the right side of history.
 
Dropperneck said:
There is no proof of that tbf.
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no proof of what? That Hamas is funded by Iran?

Iranian FM, Hamas leader Haniyeh agree to 'continue cooperation'​

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Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian meets with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Qatar. October 15, 2023

SUPPORT FROM IRAN
www.businessinsider.com

Who's funding Hamas?

Hamas gets its funding for militant operations from taxing imports into Gaza, creating phony charities, and real estate investments.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com

In addition to the charitable fronts, Matthew Levitt, a former counterterrorism intelligence analyst at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, told Insider that international support, mainly from Iran, has been "the one big constant" in Hamas' funding, estimating that Iran contributes between $70 and $100 million a year to support the militant group.

"With Iran this enables them to have extended reach beyond their borders, to undermine adversaries — and they're committed to the destruction of Israel — it also enables them, to be perfectly blunt, to fight to the last Arab," Levitt told Insider. "You're not going to see actual Iranians, Persians, on the front lines in Lebanon or in the Gaza Strip. Iran is very comfortable deploying Arab Muslim assets who, when they do something, will be the ones to be suffering the brunt of the reprisal, not Iran.
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"For Iran, Levitt said, funding Hamas ultimately offers a financially and politically inexpensive way to undermine Israel's stability and increase the pressure against their adversaries while maintaining an air of deniability regarding its involvement.
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schizopath said:
aka you see this situation black and white. Im not bi, interestingly enough :D and if it aligns with my beliefs why cant I support people who want me dead? Are you so black n white that you think I think hamas should win this? Theres no universe where that even happens. This is clearly just a cleaning of palestinans.

Im tired of the unbelievably stupidity on this argument and the sad to see person over 20+, o sorry 30+ so fukin black n white :bear:
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Support people that want you dead all you want. What's black and white? Definitely not this world and it's over 40
 
Dropperneck said:
I can assure you these people feel justified, bc they likely are.
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Well, at least you admit it...

Dropperneck said:
The central bank and it’s for profit wars are a necessity to keep this fiat grift going, so I’m not shocked by the insane propaganda push for this war. But remember, if you were wrong with the Iraqi invasion, now is the time you can make up for it and be on the right side of history.
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Every political opinion you have hinges on this same globalist conspiracy bullshit. I'm not a neocon and never supported the Iraq war (even though I was barely politically conscious at the time). So idk what you're talking about.

I seriously doubt you even give a damn about the plight of the average Palestinian. You just hate "Israel" and "bankers" ... (totally, totally, not Jews though).
 
Well there is definitely profit motive by the weapons companies in the US. Why do you think our military spending is so high?

I'm not saying its the cause of this conflict but don't assume it has no influence on what the US does
 
nepalnt21 said:
it's amazing how ppl will use their prejudice (in this case, stereotyping all palestinians based upon how some palestinians act or think) to imply justification for killing the innocents (how many 6 month old babies are homophobes?) and engaging in war crime apologetics.
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I don't think it's about justifying murder as much as pointing out that while Western progressives see the conflict as about Palestinians fighting for their freedom, the reality is an intolerant death cult dominating innocent people and murdering other innocent people, and that things such as Hamas's stances towards LGBTI people are an example of the truth of what they are actually fighting for.

It's sexier to imagine them fighting against the oppressive white man, but they're actually truly fighting for their insane idea of the creator of the universe.

I have a question for you. Let's just imagine the unlikely outcome of Hamas defeating Israel and driving them out of the region. Hamas take control of the whole area. Will the average Palestinians life be better or worse?
 
mal3volent said:
no proof of what? That Hamas is funded by Iran?

Iranian FM, Hamas leader Haniyeh agree to 'continue cooperation'​



Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian meets with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Qatar. October 15, 2023

SUPPORT FROM IRAN
www.businessinsider.com

Who's funding Hamas?

Hamas gets its funding for militant operations from taxing imports into Gaza, creating phony charities, and real estate investments.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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I don’t believe the speculation of intelligence agencies tbh. And even if they were, the US funds all sort of awful countries and people. We have staged endless colour revolutions and have over thrown endless leaders in the region. Like I’m always ranting about here, duplicity tends to grind folx gears.


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swilow said:
I don't think it's about justifying murder as much as pointing out that while Western progressives see the conflict as about Palestinians fighting for their freedom, the reality is an intolerant death cult dominating innocent people and murdering other innocent people, and that things such as Hamas's stances towards LGBTI people are an example of the truth of what they are actually fighting for.

It's sexier to imagine them fighting against the oppressive white man, but they're actually truly fighting for their insane idea of the creator of the universe.

I have a question for you. Let's just imagine the unlikely outcome of Hamas defeating Israel and driving them out of the region. Hamas take control of the whole area. Will the average Palestinians life be better or worse?
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Better because then they only have Hamas to worry about instead of Israel AND Hamas
 
Dropperneck said:
I don’t believe the speculation of intelligence agencies tbh.
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you can not believe them all you want.
you said there was no proof of it.
well, there is, and I showed it to you.

Iran funds Hezbollah. Why would they not fund Hamas?

Dropperneck said:
folx
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It is also pretty funny you always talk about the folx, but you are aligned with them on this. The Marxists, communists, and all the genderqueer people are all about Free Palestine. It's a part of the intersectionality matrix and another opportunity to fight the capitalist machine.
 
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