Mr. Krinkle
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Israel is under attack
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You're exactly correct, Israel even has laws that push Palestinians out of Israel. It has been ethnic cleansing in slow(ish) motion
AlsoTapered
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The 2018 'Nation-State Law''. Their were crowds burning copies of the Quran and indeed all books that outlined the tenets of any other faith that Jewdaism.
As Heinrich Heine prophetically stated 'wherever books are burned, people are burned, too, in the end.
pharmakos
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Note that I am not pro-violence and I condemn the recent actions of HAMAS. However... evil begets evil, violence begets violence.
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During the 1947–1948 civil war in Mandatory Palestine, an estimated 1,000 people were killed, including British personnel. Ilan Pappé estimates that 400 Jews and 1,500 Arabs were killed by January 1948.
In 1948, approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed. Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. More than 750,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes and became refugees.
During the Israeli War of Independence (1947–1949), more than 6,000 Israeli Jews were killed, including 4,000 soldiers and 2,000 civilians. More than 10,000 Arab soldiers and civilians were also killed.
The Deir Yassin massacre occurred on April 9, 1948, just weeks before the creation of the State of Israel. Members of the Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias attacked the village of Deir Yassin, killing at least 107 Palestinians.
The Holocaust and the Nakba are two vastly different historical events with unique contexts, causes, and consequences. Nevertheless, there are certain ironic similarities between the two that can be examined. Please note that the comparison is intended solely for academic purposes and to highlight some aspects of human behavior; the two events themselves are fundamentally different in nature, scope, and magnitude. Moreover, some might find the comparison offensive, as each event has deep emotional and historical significance for the respective communities. With this caution in mind, here are some ironic similarities:
1. **Displacement and Suffering**: The most obvious similarity is the displacement and suffering of a large number of people. During the Holocaust, Jews were forcibly removed from their homes and communities, often sent to concentration camps, ghettos, and later extermination camps. The Nakba, which translates to "catastrophe" in Arabic, refers to the displacement of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, where many were driven from their homes and became refugees.
2. **Loss of Homeland**: Both events involve a deep sense of loss connected to a homeland. The Jewish people were removed from various European countries where they had lived for centuries, while Palestinians lost their ancestral land in what is now Israel.
3. **Dehumanization**: Both groups faced systematic dehumanization. Jews during the Holocaust were dehumanized through Nazi propaganda, which portrayed them as inferior, dangerous, and even non-human. Palestinians have also faced dehumanization, often depicted as terrorists or threats to the Israeli state.
4. **Seeking Refuge**: Both groups sought refuge in other nations. Jewish survivors of the Holocaust migrated to places like the United States, Canada, and Israel. Palestinians who were displaced looked for refuge in neighboring Arab countries and beyond.
5. **Narrative Control**: Both events have been subject to narrative control and manipulation. The Holocaust, for instance, has been denied or minimized by some, while the Nakba is either underreported or framed differently, depending on the perspective of the narrator.
6. **Enduring Trauma**: The generational trauma stemming from both events is profound. The Holocaust has left an indelible mark on Jewish collective memory, while the Nakba continues to shape Palestinian identity and aspirations.
7. **Use of Symbolism**: Both events utilize powerful symbols to represent their tragedies. For the Holocaust, symbols like the yellow Star of David and Auschwitz come to mind. For Palestinians, keys often symbolize the homes they left behind and hope to return to.
8. **Quest for Recognition**: Both groups seek acknowledgment and validation of their suffering. Holocaust education and memorialization aim to ensure such atrocities never happen again, while Palestinians seek acknowledgment of the Nakba and the right of return.
9. **Impact on World Politics**: Both events have significantly influenced international relations. The establishment of Israel was influenced by the aftermath of the Holocaust, while the Palestinian refugee crisis and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict have been central to Middle Eastern geopolitics.
10. **Moral Lessons**: Both events pose profound moral questions about humanity's capacity for cruelty, the responsibility of bystanders, and the importance of memory and remembrance.
It's essential to stress that while there are similarities, the differences between the Holocaust and the Nakba are significant. The Holocaust was an organized genocide that aimed to exterminate the entire Jewish population of Europe. The Nakba was a complex outcome of a war that led to massive displacement. It's crucial to approach any comparison with sensitivity and a clear understanding of each event's unique characteristics and implications.
en.wikipedia.org
As towns and villages were either conquered or abandoned in the conflict, looting by Jewish forces and residents was so widespread that, in the aftermath, David Ben-Gurion remarked on 24 July 1948: 'It turns out that most of the Jews are thieves.' Netiva Ben-Yehuda, a Palmach commander likened the pillaging she observed in Tiberias to the classic behavior seen by their oppressors during anti-Jewish pogroms in Europe:
“Such pictures were known to us. It was the way things had always been done to us, in the Holocaust, throughout the world war, and all the pogroms. Oy, how well we knew those pictures. And here – here, we were doing these awful things to others. We loaded everything onto the van – with a terrible trembling of the hands. And that wasn't because of the weight. Even now my hands are shaking, just from writing about it.'
AI generated but accurate:
During the 1947–1948 civil war in Mandatory Palestine, an estimated 1,000 people were killed, including British personnel. Ilan Pappé estimates that 400 Jews and 1,500 Arabs were killed by January 1948.
In 1948, approximately 13,000 Palestinians were killed. Zionist forces attacked major Palestinian cities and destroyed some 530 villages. More than 750,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes and became refugees.
During the Israeli War of Independence (1947–1949), more than 6,000 Israeli Jews were killed, including 4,000 soldiers and 2,000 civilians. More than 10,000 Arab soldiers and civilians were also killed.
The Deir Yassin massacre occurred on April 9, 1948, just weeks before the creation of the State of Israel. Members of the Irgun and Stern Gang Zionist militias attacked the village of Deir Yassin, killing at least 107 Palestinians.
The Holocaust and the Nakba are two vastly different historical events with unique contexts, causes, and consequences. Nevertheless, there are certain ironic similarities between the two that can be examined. Please note that the comparison is intended solely for academic purposes and to highlight some aspects of human behavior; the two events themselves are fundamentally different in nature, scope, and magnitude. Moreover, some might find the comparison offensive, as each event has deep emotional and historical significance for the respective communities. With this caution in mind, here are some ironic similarities:
1. **Displacement and Suffering**: The most obvious similarity is the displacement and suffering of a large number of people. During the Holocaust, Jews were forcibly removed from their homes and communities, often sent to concentration camps, ghettos, and later extermination camps. The Nakba, which translates to "catastrophe" in Arabic, refers to the displacement of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, where many were driven from their homes and became refugees.
2. **Loss of Homeland**: Both events involve a deep sense of loss connected to a homeland. The Jewish people were removed from various European countries where they had lived for centuries, while Palestinians lost their ancestral land in what is now Israel.
3. **Dehumanization**: Both groups faced systematic dehumanization. Jews during the Holocaust were dehumanized through Nazi propaganda, which portrayed them as inferior, dangerous, and even non-human. Palestinians have also faced dehumanization, often depicted as terrorists or threats to the Israeli state.
4. **Seeking Refuge**: Both groups sought refuge in other nations. Jewish survivors of the Holocaust migrated to places like the United States, Canada, and Israel. Palestinians who were displaced looked for refuge in neighboring Arab countries and beyond.
5. **Narrative Control**: Both events have been subject to narrative control and manipulation. The Holocaust, for instance, has been denied or minimized by some, while the Nakba is either underreported or framed differently, depending on the perspective of the narrator.
6. **Enduring Trauma**: The generational trauma stemming from both events is profound. The Holocaust has left an indelible mark on Jewish collective memory, while the Nakba continues to shape Palestinian identity and aspirations.
7. **Use of Symbolism**: Both events utilize powerful symbols to represent their tragedies. For the Holocaust, symbols like the yellow Star of David and Auschwitz come to mind. For Palestinians, keys often symbolize the homes they left behind and hope to return to.
8. **Quest for Recognition**: Both groups seek acknowledgment and validation of their suffering. Holocaust education and memorialization aim to ensure such atrocities never happen again, while Palestinians seek acknowledgment of the Nakba and the right of return.
9. **Impact on World Politics**: Both events have significantly influenced international relations. The establishment of Israel was influenced by the aftermath of the Holocaust, while the Palestinian refugee crisis and the broader Israeli-Palestinian conflict have been central to Middle Eastern geopolitics.
10. **Moral Lessons**: Both events pose profound moral questions about humanity's capacity for cruelty, the responsibility of bystanders, and the importance of memory and remembrance.
It's essential to stress that while there are similarities, the differences between the Holocaust and the Nakba are significant. The Holocaust was an organized genocide that aimed to exterminate the entire Jewish population of Europe. The Nakba was a complex outcome of a war that led to massive displacement. It's crucial to approach any comparison with sensitivity and a clear understanding of each event's unique characteristics and implications.
1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight - Wikipedia
As towns and villages were either conquered or abandoned in the conflict, looting by Jewish forces and residents was so widespread that, in the aftermath, David Ben-Gurion remarked on 24 July 1948: 'It turns out that most of the Jews are thieves.' Netiva Ben-Yehuda, a Palmach commander likened the pillaging she observed in Tiberias to the classic behavior seen by their oppressors during anti-Jewish pogroms in Europe:
“Such pictures were known to us. It was the way things had always been done to us, in the Holocaust, throughout the world war, and all the pogroms. Oy, how well we knew those pictures. And here – here, we were doing these awful things to others. We loaded everything onto the van – with a terrible trembling of the hands. And that wasn't because of the weight. Even now my hands are shaking, just from writing about it.'
LucidSDreamr
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Fuck religion. What dumasserry
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pharmakos
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A friend pointed out, and I agree, that the timing of the National Alert System last week coming immediately before this new drama almost makes it seem like our governments knew that shit was about to hit the fan.Hamas leader calling for Friday 13th global jihad. Fucks sake. I saw the NYC mayor earlier warning about potential lone wolf attacks.
AlsoTapered
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I don't think 2 examples is sufficient to derive a timetable.
Here in Europe such 'lone wolf' attacks seem to occur about once a year - not including those who were caught before they had the chance to become martyrs.
Obviously most were not specifically aimed at Jewish people but some Muslim terrorist groups circulate propaganda that includes instructions on how to construct a 'suicide vest'.
I think that's why Israel would like to quickly destroy Palestine - the 1972 Munich massacre was the work of the PLO. Palestine is the rallying cry that brings together diverse Muslim terrorist groups and fighting for a memory doesn't seem quite as emotive as fighting for other living people. I might add that if you look at The Mossad's response to Munich was, they are likely already working out targets.
The US is obviously at risk due to it's global war on terror. Those 'forever wars' some people refer to are US actions against terrorist groups.
Electrum1
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I'm talking about the emergency alert system in the U.S. that sends an alert to every phone and TV. I was wrong about every 5 years, federal law requires it's tested at least every 3 years. So the last 3 times were October 2018, August 2021, and most recently October 2023
Are plants extreme?
swilow
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Hamas leader calling for Friday 13th global jihad. Fucks sake. I saw the NYC mayor earlier warning about potential lone wolf attacks.
‘Reprehensible’ anti-Israel protesters chant ‘Gas the Jews’ outside Sydney Opera House: video
Around 1,000 protesters gathered outside Sydney’s iconic performing arts hall carrying flares and Palestinian flags Monday night.
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"The religion of peace"
Doctor Steve Brule
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Anyone else notice John Kirby literally looks like a puppet?
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C-130s are flying dumpsters. Maybe not the AC's as much but C-130 Hercules had scab patches with no rivets lol just sealant.
arrall
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Very busy with uni, but I’m still around
pharmakos
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So a year early this most recent time...
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