Israel is under attack
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kiely
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Way too much arak, or distilled anise.
I think they are all headed toward WW# something right now.
It's all too creepy. bye.
And how exactly are they conducting that intelligence of an event that was literally setup the day before their terrorism operation? Any electronic chatter, especially Arabic, within the Israeli border is getting intercepted and these days probably analysed by AI immediately. No chance they're getting any intelligence out except manually. Whether they use walkie-talkies or encrypted military hardware, you can bet Israeli signals intel has it on the branch directors desk/screen immediately.
It makes no sense though. They're going to get absolutely obliterated. It wouldn't surprise me if Israel actually just levelled the entire strip to be honest.
Hamas has just stated (see below) that they're going to execute one hostage for every time Israel targets civilians, which basically means they're just going to execute them regardless. Gaza is incredibly dense, there's no way Israel won't end up killing innocent people, which means all the hostages are going to die (unless rescued), which in turn means Israel is even more likely to just flatten the entire area.
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"Sources close to Hezbollah are reporting that a Full-Mobilization of Forces in Lebanon has been Ordered with many said to be moving towards the Border with Northern Israel"
"Biden admin officials told US Senators to prepare their constituents for a long war in Israel and the Gaza Strip, indicating that U.S. support — both tangible & political — will be necessary in the coming weeks"
"Netanyahu says what Israel will do in coming days will 'resonate for generations to come'"
"Biden admin officials told US Senators to prepare their constituents for a long war in Israel and the Gaza Strip, indicating that U.S. support — both tangible & political — will be necessary in the coming weeks"
"Netanyahu says what Israel will do in coming days will 'resonate for generations to come'"
swilow
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The actions of an extremist like him aren't all that relevant here. It's not as if Hamas are a fringe group in Gaza, they run the show.
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Also, they bomb whatever stuff, which they claim to contain terrorist cells, which they sometimes might I guess, then manipulate people to think it is o.k. because they made some minor efforts to avoid few civil casualties.
Tbc, it's not acceptable to bomb civilians ever. The problem is that Hamas knows that Israel are at least going to play lip service to the global distaste for exploding innocent people and is known to station their launch site in civilian apartment blocks, etc. That they do this means even Hamas understands the ethical stance Israel claim to hold better than western leftists at least. If Israel kills civilians in this context, after Hamas has put them directly and intentionally in harms way, who's fault is that?
To be even clearer, I do not support all of what Israel has done to Palestinians. However, it is crystal clear that they are not the aggressors in this outbreak. If you think Hamas are justified, please explain how raping and murdering young women and parading their naked bodies through the streets is justified, too.
I am no sure if that was question, but no I don't support HAMAS, it is disgusting organization that does horrible acts.
Point that Israel is not aggressor in this certain scenario makes some sense because while Israel oppresses palestinians
a) HAMAS whining about people of Israel utilizing their mosque is just religious bullshit
b) HAMASs action was not particularly adequate to serve palestinians, it was just terrorist act.
this is actually interesting perspective.
However, now Israel acts as aggressor when it closed the wall and just annihilates alleged "animal people"
It is fault of HAMAS and Israel
Do you think HAMAS would even be there if Israel hadn't been genociding Palestinians in the first place?
No.
elgoucho9
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This is a joke calling it Israel's 9/11 and talking about withdrawing our aid to Palestine.
The reality is they knew the attack was coming and let it happen. It was deliberate. If anyone thinks the Israeli's and all their security, with the mass survailance on Gaza, didn't know Hamas were planning an attack, then you are completely deluded.
The attack was exactly what Israel was looking for. An excuse to go all in on Palestine and finally wipe out what's left of the Palestinians and claim Gaza for themselves.
Britain has alot to answer for in all this. Personally i am deeply ashamed of what my country has done.
When you block all land and sea access. Stop food, electricity and fuel coming through. And begin air strikes and killing civilians, this makes your nation no better than the terrorist organizations you hate. This and has been for many years outright Genocide being committed by the Israeli's. And they won't stop until Palestine no longer exists. Like i said already this is the exact opportunity they were hoping for.
The reality is they knew the attack was coming and let it happen. It was deliberate. If anyone thinks the Israeli's and all their security, with the mass survailance on Gaza, didn't know Hamas were planning an attack, then you are completely deluded.
The attack was exactly what Israel was looking for. An excuse to go all in on Palestine and finally wipe out what's left of the Palestinians and claim Gaza for themselves.
Britain has alot to answer for in all this. Personally i am deeply ashamed of what my country has done.
When you block all land and sea access. Stop food, electricity and fuel coming through. And begin air strikes and killing civilians, this makes your nation no better than the terrorist organizations you hate. This and has been for many years outright Genocide being committed by the Israeli's. And they won't stop until Palestine no longer exists. Like i said already this is the exact opportunity they were hoping for.
swilow
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But they're not genociding Palestinians. They absolutely have the means to, but aren't. What would Hamas do if they had the means? We've seen it.
It's not as if Israel don't have blood on their hands. I acknowledge that. Still, they have the right to defend their people because history tells us clearly, noone else will. What choice is there for Israel?
It has been an apartheid state for years, this isn't new. Think about it: the average age of Palestinians is 18. Why is that?
elgoucho9
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How is cutting off food, water, electricity for 2.2 million people defending their people? That's not just going to affect Hamas is it.
I think I have answered your questions over the course of this thread, I can't help you to understand it any better.
EXCEPT I could say that while HAMAS does not gain pretty much anything by their strikes, neither does Israel by their strikes, UNLESS they execute the complete genocide, total annihilation.
EXCEPT I could say that while HAMAS does not gain pretty much anything by their strikes, neither does Israel by their strikes, UNLESS they execute the complete genocide, total annihilation.
swilow
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The point is that this Hamas' doing. They are the group here that liberally uses their own people as human shields. Its their actions that are the cause of this response. I don't like it as a tactic at all, but then, I don't think massacring innocent people can be met with compassion. Hamas really need to be utterly destroyed or they will continue with their tactics of massacring civilians and endangering their own people.
So why is HAMAS there in the first place? Did they just decide to show up one day for no reason?
pharmakos
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From chapter five of the Book of Amos, first of the Prophets
Because of Israel’s sins this is what the Lord, the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies, says:
“In all the squares there will be wailing,
in all the streets they will mourn the dead.
They will tell the field workers to lament
and the professional mourners to wail.
In all the vineyards there will be wailing,
for I will pass through your midst,” says the Lord.
Woe to those who wish for the day of the Lord!
Why do you want the Lord’s day of judgment to come?
It will bring darkness, not light.
Disaster will be inescapable,
as if a man ran from a lion only to meet a bear,
then escaped into a house,
leaned his hand against the wall,
and was bitten by a poisonous snake.
Don’t you realize the Lord’s day of judgment will bring darkness, not light—
gloomy blackness, not bright light?
“I absolutely despise your festivals!
I get no pleasure from your religious assemblies.
Even if you offer me burnt and grain offerings, I will not be satisfied;
I will not look with favor on your peace offerings of fattened calves.
Take away from me your noisy songs;
I don’t want to hear the music of your stringed instruments.
Justice must flow like torrents of water,
righteous actions like a stream that never dries up.
You did not bring me sacrifices and grain offerings during the forty years you spent in the wilderness, family of Israel.
You will pick up your images of Sikkuth, your king,
and Kiyyun, your star god, which you made for yourselves,
and I will drive you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord.
He is called the God of Heaven’s Armies.
Because of Israel’s sins this is what the Lord, the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies, says:
“In all the squares there will be wailing,
in all the streets they will mourn the dead.
They will tell the field workers to lament
and the professional mourners to wail.
In all the vineyards there will be wailing,
for I will pass through your midst,” says the Lord.
Woe to those who wish for the day of the Lord!
Why do you want the Lord’s day of judgment to come?
It will bring darkness, not light.
Disaster will be inescapable,
as if a man ran from a lion only to meet a bear,
then escaped into a house,
leaned his hand against the wall,
and was bitten by a poisonous snake.
Don’t you realize the Lord’s day of judgment will bring darkness, not light—
gloomy blackness, not bright light?
“I absolutely despise your festivals!
I get no pleasure from your religious assemblies.
Even if you offer me burnt and grain offerings, I will not be satisfied;
I will not look with favor on your peace offerings of fattened calves.
Take away from me your noisy songs;
I don’t want to hear the music of your stringed instruments.
Justice must flow like torrents of water,
righteous actions like a stream that never dries up.
You did not bring me sacrifices and grain offerings during the forty years you spent in the wilderness, family of Israel.
You will pick up your images of Sikkuth, your king,
and Kiyyun, your star god, which you made for yourselves,
and I will drive you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord.
He is called the God of Heaven’s Armies.
Deleted member 521610
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thanks to hamas petrol is now $3.30 a litre.
2020's oil crisis decade in coming.
Arabs are parading through the streets celebrating the murder and rape of eldery, women & children across the world supporting the terrorist group HAMAS.
So much for the religion of "peace"
they are showing us what they really believe in.
I stand with JEWISH PEOPLE
To go against jewish people makes you as bad as adolf hilter and barabic and evil
Hilter killed my ancestors.
Jewish people are lovely and civilzed the animal terrorist scum bags in hamas are violent barbians.
Paleinstein was the colonizer when the islamists masscared jews for over 1000 years and stole and conquered jeralusum. Christans and jews were genocided in the tens of millions across the middle east in the last 1400 years by these barbaic tribes.
Jeralusum belongs to jewish people.
This conflict is going to become alot bigger and russian & iran are pulling the strings.
Those who love paleistein and hamas so much feel free to move to gaza and see if these barbians treat you nicely lol.
HAMAS is just like ISIS. SCUM of the earth evil bastards.
They raped everybody, savage monsters they are.
What ever happens to gaza they bought it upon themselves.
I support Zionism and israel.
One of my distant relatives was murederde in this hamas attack in IRASEL.
SO FUCK GAZA burn it all to the ground
2020's oil crisis decade in coming.
Arabs are parading through the streets celebrating the murder and rape of eldery, women & children across the world supporting the terrorist group HAMAS.
So much for the religion of "peace"
they are showing us what they really believe in.
I stand with JEWISH PEOPLE
To go against jewish people makes you as bad as adolf hilter and barabic and evil
Hilter killed my ancestors.
Jewish people are lovely and civilzed the animal terrorist scum bags in hamas are violent barbians.
Paleinstein was the colonizer when the islamists masscared jews for over 1000 years and stole and conquered jeralusum. Christans and jews were genocided in the tens of millions across the middle east in the last 1400 years by these barbaic tribes.
Jeralusum belongs to jewish people.
This conflict is going to become alot bigger and russian & iran are pulling the strings.
Those who love paleistein and hamas so much feel free to move to gaza and see if these barbians treat you nicely lol.
HAMAS is just like ISIS. SCUM of the earth evil bastards.
They raped everybody, savage monsters they are.
What ever happens to gaza they bought it upon themselves.
I support Zionism and israel.
One of my distant relatives was murederde in this hamas attack in IRASEL.
SO FUCK GAZA burn it all to the ground
elgoucho9
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Hamas do not represent all of Palestine. They are a terrorist faction and now Israel are going to hit out at a densly populated area with 2.2million people in it.
Are we also going to ignore the fact Israel has been commiting genocide for 100 years? But yet now Israel need 'revenge', lol give me break.
This whole outcome suits Israel's agenda down to the ground.
Wow. You are literally saying saying let's burn a nation of 2.2 million people to the ground over what a terrorist faction have done. They are already starving children as a response.
Here's what your lovely people have done over the last 100 years. Yet fail to take any responsibilty as to why they have terrorists wanting to attack them.
Palestine: Imperial failures and their consequences
The Nakba, central to Palestinian nationhood as much as the Holocaust is for Jews and slavery is for African-Americans, is the living reminder of the profound injustice inflicted upon the Palestinians.
www.opendemocracy.net
I would like to state my opinion, that the Israeli's are much bigger terrorists than Hamas will ever be.
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Juniper Bruhmomentius
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Just a year ago you had different opinions, this guy is the biggest sellout Ive seen on this forum
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