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now you are making the argument that the zionists want you to do Swilow claiming that it is not possible they are doing the genocide because that would harm their cause. Allowing them to do that. It is working perfectly well.
 
You haven't refuted the statement

The hospital 'attack'. That was significant.

Tbc, I am sure that the IDF fabricate details too. I don't actually trust much of what they say. Like Hamas, they have a massive conflict of interest.

now you are making the argument that the zionists want you to do Swilow claiming that it is not possible they are doing the genocide because that would harm their cause. Allowing them to do that. It is working perfectly well.

Of course it's possible. I'm actually saying they saying Israel are NOT committing genocide. If they were, it would be clear because they have the means and even the motivation and the entire world is watching. However, the observable facts speak for themselves. Despite being unacceptably high civilian casualties, they are a tiny fraction of Gazas population. Israel have continued to warn civilians and plead for them to flee to safer territory.

Genocide is perhaps being used very loosely here but the onus as ever sits on those making the claim. In reality and loosely defined, genocide is the systematic murder of people based on such things as ethnicity, religion, political allegiance, etc by a state actor. Israel are killing Palestinians, but not because they are Palestinians- they're doing it because Hamas operate from heavily built up civilian areas. There is definitely a moral argument I could make against Israel responding as they are, but framing the response as a genocide is a poor version of that. Consider the Holocaust or the Armenian genocide or the Rwandan genocide- how is this the same? War itself isn't genocide,- civilian casualties as a consequence of war is not genocide. It's not a war crime to kill civilians (it is awful nonetheless), it's a war crime to intentionally target civilians.
 
If you're at war you are going to fire rockets from where they are being shot from. Hamas is making civilian deaths higher by using them as human propaganda shields. Hamas is adding to their own people's death toll and the world is cheering? They are terrorist who don't care about their own people but Israel should ?
 
If you're at war you are going to fire rockets from where they are being shot from. Hamas is making civilian deaths higher by using them as human propaganda shields. Hamas is adding to their own people's death toll and the world is cheering? They are terrorist who don't care about their own people but Israel should ?
There were rockets being fired from a journalist's house? Crazy
 
If you're at war you are going to fire rockets from where they are being shot from. Hamas is making civilian deaths higher by using them as human propaganda shields. Hamas is adding to their own people's death toll and the world is cheering? They are terrorist who don't care about their own people but Israel should ?

isn't it funny how the UN nor anyone else is trying to come together to pressure Hamas to surrender and release their hostages? Yet they want Israel to cease fire.
 
isn't it funny how the UN nor anyone else is trying to come together to pressure Hamas to surrender and release their hostages? Yet they want Israel to cease fire.
Hmm I wonder why, maybe because they understand the reality of the situation?

 
Hmm I wonder why, maybe because they understand the reality of the situation?


The UN is a joke.

Why should Israel cease fire when they're not even willing to release the hostages?

You hear no cries from the UN about that.
 
complete horse shit
All of the evidence has pointed to Israel doing those things. Its pretty telling that you're covering your eyes and ears while the atrocities are clear as day

 
All of the evidence has pointed to Israel doing those things. Its pretty telling that you're covering your eyes and ears while the atrocities are clear as day



what's telling is that you nor the UN are supporting Israel's mission of eliminating Hamas. The quickest way to end this conflict would be for that to happen.

but you see, Hamas doesn't want this to end. They are waiting for their islamofascist neighbors to join in. Meanwhile there are plenty enough gullible westerners who will eat up every piece of propaganda they put out. Including every major media outlet.
 
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