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Okay, forgive me, I couldn't think of a better subject line...

My cousin tried MDMA today, and decided to start with an absolutely pansy dose because he's had panic attacks on other drugs and is a touch anxious when it comes to altering his mental state. So he took 60mg (don't laugh, he's the quintessential harm-reduction poster-child :D), and he started to feel really energetic and happy. Nothing too intense, and it was really enjoyable! Then, all of a sudden, something hit him and he was like "whoa, NOW I'm feeling it." It was definitely a rush and a half and was more than a touch too intense for him. It reminded him of smoking weed when all of a sudden you turn and say "Dude, NOW I'm high!" Almost like the come-on of a trip. I'm guessing this was the famed serotonin rush? Anyway, it lasted no more than maybe 30-60 seconds, and then he returned to a really nice state. Nothing too intense, just a lot of energy and happiness.

So my question is: if my cousin took MORE than his pansy dose of 60mg, would that "rush" feeling LAST the entire time? As in, is that crazy feeling the normal feeling one can expect from MDMA? It just felt too intense for my cousin. He said his vision was getting a little distorted and he felt really uncomfortable and not sober. So I guess I'm wondering if the "rush" is always temporary (as in, you will always feel this rush, but will come down to this nice, giddy state), or if that IS the point of MDMA. Because my cousin wants more good feelings (and so wants to increase his dose), but if all he can expect is a prolonged crazy rush, he doesn't know if MDMA is right for him.

I hope that describes it right! It's so ineffable, but I think users know what I mean when I talk about the "WHOA, now I'm high!" feeling that just messes with your perception. My cousin doesn't like perceptual changes, so he can handle the come-on if it is only a couple of minutes, but doesn't want to do MDMA if the WHOLE trip is like that.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
 
If he took a higher dose he would probably feel that "woah" feeling a little stronger and maybe longer while he's coming up. Usually when I take MDMA initially there is a heavy feeling in the beginning, like "woah, something is starting to hit me" and then it stabilizes more and gets less heavy. The feeling of the MDMA also tends to come in waves, as in sometimes the "high" seems to be getting weaker and then all of a sudden it increases in strength again for a bit and then the cycle repeats. To me the waves of the high are pleasant and definitely not as heavy of an experience as the come-up.
 
That sounds encouraging, as my cousin can ride out the heavy come-up if it's temporary, but would really dislike it if the come-up was the entire high! He also had a similar experience to yours, and he wasn't sure if the come-up subsided because of his pansy dose, or if it subsided because that is the nature of MDMA. Thank you for sharing your experiences :)
 
We don't do these kinds of threads.. there is no way for us to know how you felt, and guessing the purity of your pills through a computer is a dangerous game.




The only way to know how MDMA feels is to take it and the only way to know if you've taken it is with a Reagent Testing kit
 
No, I'm certainly not asking how much to take! I'm well aware of correct dosage, and my cousin is well aware of the purity of his MDMA. I don't desire anyone to take a guess at purity, dosage, etc.

My chief question is in regards to the onset of MDMA's effects: I want to know if most people experience a (sometimes uncomfortable) rush, and if this "rush" goes away normally, or if the rush is the main appeal of the drug. All I'm interested in are people's thoughts about the initial "rush" and the duration of this period.

Surely, this type of question is allowed?
 
If your happy and comfortable with your substance..why don't you try taking an actual dose...since your familiar with dosage..then you can feel what it's all about. Most people take E to roll..doubt your friend was "rolling" off 60mg. It'll be hard to say what a "rush" is compared what it is your referring to. Time for some safe experimentation maybe?
 
Hee hee, true, a lot of people have told my cousin to just dive in with a few substances... While my cousin intellectually knows his substance and proper dosage -- from research -- it's hard to research a subjective feeling. He wishes to proceed with caution, as he's heard that if one has a panic attack whilst rolling, rolling will likely be ruined. Because my cousin has a history of anxiety, he wants to dip his toes in first and perhaps start in the kiddie pool. He doesn't care much about macho drug attitudes, and so will gladly receive the laughter he deserves from wishing to start with such a low dose :D

Therefore, apart from the more intellectual aspects of the drug, he wishes to hear from people who have done it to find out about the onset and duration of the serotonin rush.

What are your experiences with the serotonin rush? Were you nervous during your first rush? Did you come to enjoy it after repetitive use? Does it last for the duration of the experience?

Oh, and you did raise a good point about defining my rush... By a "rush," I mean that my cousin's vision went slightly funny, and he felt like he couldn't focus (almost like the onset of marijuana, but maybe that's not quite accurate), and everything was just too intense and he was like "Oh, God, this is too much!" He said it felt VERY similar to snorting Kanna, if you've ever done that, but much more intense.
 
I think alot of people like we said have different references to rush. To me, the rush of serontonin I associate with myself at peak feeling. I know some people refer it to the come-up. Idk to me the come up I usually feel a little anxious/excited. When I hit my peak is usually when I have the "OMG" feeling I feel like most refer to. Now for your friends feelings from the substance. There are certain physical effects of low dose mdma but tbh. I've been in situation when I doses to low and feel the alertness persae of a foreign substance in my body but its def NOT the feeling you get from the full dosage of the drug. Now for how long it lasts... I feel like it depends on the set and setting. The OMG amazing feeling may only last for say an hour or two if sitting relaxing at home, or could last longer depending e.i. I'm a raver and I feel like the stimulation of shows and music an enhance my overall experience. Now as for the "did I take to much feeling" I think everytime I roll I hit that holy shit moment but that specific feeling of panic usually lasts moments. Hope that helps
 
Ahh, I remember that feeling :)

I never had it off anything less than 300mg of MDMA. But I remember it quite fondly.

Sitting on my bathroom after a shower waiting for it to hit... When suddenly I feel something in my stomach. I remember the light feeling before that, where I realize I'm about to get high and the pill's absorbing in my GI. But that rush... Damn. I remember standing up and looking in the mirror, watching myself pupilate, my pupils pushing my iris back to a thin, barely observable, dark green line... Then, like a freight train, the euphoria slams you. I always heard music accompany this slam, but I've noticed the nausea to come with it. Nausea so strong that I had to tear off my shirt and jump in the ice cold shower to avoid throwing up. Then the nystagmus. You know, where your eyeballs ricochet in your skull so hard... Like forest gump is playing ping pong with them in your head. The jaw jacking, where your teeth are clicking together so fast that you're afraid to stick out your tongue in fear that it's going to be shredded.

That "HOLY SHIT" feeling lasts as long as the nystagmus, which is about an hour or two for me. Man I miss that. Haven't had a roll in 7 months...
 
Haha, that sounds scary as shit. I think I'll tell my cousin to stick with low doses and work his way up... With 60 mg, his pupils were dilated already! I think 300 mg would destroy him.

Thank you both for your experiences -- very helpful.

My cousin doesn't like the feeling of insobriety. For him, opiates make him feel nice, but he doesn't feel like he's intoxicated. But certain drugs like weed make him feel very intoxicated indeed. He hates that "out of control" feeling, so he's trying to determine if MDMA is an "in control" drug or an "out of control" drug. I don't know if things can be dichotomized quite that easily, but at the same time, there are examples: my cousin gets immediately high from weed, but opiates are a slow, controlled come up.

Does that make sense? Some drugs are like a steady slope up, and some drugs are either "I'm not high" or "HOLY CRAP I'M HIGH." Y'know, some drugs have a definite "tipping off" point, from what my cousin has told me. He doesn't want to trip, he just wants to be himself, feel sober, but still feel really nice :)

All that being said, my cousin isn't looking to get SUPER HIGH or to get fucked up. He's more interested in therapeutic doses, and just feeling super nice. Many drug users have the attitude of "go big or go home," but I've never understood that. I mean, if my cousin can get good feelings from 60 mg, then he doesn't necessarily HAVE to go beyond that. But admittedly, he is curious if the effects will be of the intoxication variety, or of the "I just feel really nice" variety.

Hee hee, sometimes I feel like I'm trying to describe things that no one else experiences... First sign of a crazy person, hee hee.
 
I totally get what you're describing. And it's a legitimate question. I think there is a threshold for most people I've asked about this topic, they've all said in the neighborhood of up to a dose the rush feeling and subsequent high is nothing like insobriety. In fact one of the most amazing things about MDMA is that you feel a constant state of awareness and control. In my experience, going over a normal dosage can start to tip the scales toward an out of control feeling (though, nothing like alcohol and its in a way that I like). If your cousin wants he could experiment with slightly higher dosages, perhaps going up by 10mg each time if that makes him feel comfortable, to get to his "sweet spot." I have also heard of people saying that under a full dose they felt more of the anxiety and less comfortable effects as opposed to a full dose. The rush is the absolute most beautiful part of MDMA (imo) and any out of control feeling never tends to last longer than a few minutes before it settles in to a calmer, happier and easy going state. Of course this is heavily influenced by set and setting as well. Good luck!
 
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and your advice about bumping up the dosage 10mg each time. Very helpful, and I will definitely suggest that to my cousin! Your post is very encouraging, and I'm relieved to hear that you know what I'm trying to describe.

In your experience, what is the maximum dosage you can take before you start to experience insobriety?

I think the problem with me trying to find the information I want is that most people don't necessarily care about insobriety or being "out of control"; most people just want to have a great time. But for my cousin, sobriety is a very big deal, hence my questions on his behalf =D
 
sola said:
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and your advice about bumping up the dosage 10mg each time. Very helpful, and I will definitely suggest that to my cousin! Your post is very encouraging, and I'm relieved to hear that you know what I'm trying to describe.

In your experience, what is the maximum dosage you can take before you start to experience insobriety?

I think the problem with me trying to find the information I want is that most people don't necessarily care about insobriety or being "out of control"; most people just want to have a great time. But for my cousin, sobriety is a very big deal, hence my questions on his behalf =D
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MDMA is a pretty good drug for remaining 'in control' even when you're heavily under the influence. At least in my experience, I am able to control my actions but the MDMA just puts me into a content psychological state to do as I please. Whether that is socializing or just enjoying the music - i'm usually in control of myself. I have no regrets for my behaviour either - i'm just me without the usual social constraints. I definitely look fucked though: big eyes, gurning, grinning, dancing, so if you're worried about how you will appear to others, then perhaps a low dose is more suitable. However, if you're in an environment with lots of like-minded people nobody cares anyway - it's all part of the fun.
 
JWills20 said:
MDMA is a pretty good drug for remaining 'in control' even when you're heavily under the influence. At least in my experience, I am able to control my actions but the MDMA just puts me into a content psychological state to do as I please. Whether that is socializing or just enjoying the music - i'm usually in control of myself. I have no regrets for my behaviour either - i'm just me without the usual social constraints. I definitely look fucked though: big eyes, gurning, grinning, dancing, so if you're worried about how you will appear to others, then perhaps a low dose is more suitable. However, if you're in an environment with lots of like-minded people nobody cares anyway - it's all part of the fun.
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Not at higher doses it's not. When I take 300mg or more I get nearly or fully naked, I don't even care where I am, my clothes will come off like they have a mind of their own. After that, I run around wherever I am twitching, gurning, and rubbing myself against everything like an autistic cat. I dare you to try to act sober when rolling face on that dose.


And OP, that famous initial serotonin rush gets longer and longer depending on dosages. I usually get really anxious and restless until that sudden full body rush that just comes from nowhere, it's my favorite part, the 0-160mph body feelings =D. I recommend he should just bite the bullet and take a 150mg dose. MDMA's insobriety is very handle-able when it gets up to that dose, it's just that you feel invincible and almighty, and you get a really pleasant mental blur feeling.
 
sola said:
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and your advice about bumping up the dosage 10mg each time. Very helpful, and I will definitely suggest that to my cousin! Your post is very encouraging, and I'm relieved to hear that you know what I'm trying to describe.

In your experience, what is the maximum dosage you can take before you start to experience insobriety?

I think the problem with me trying to find the information I want is that most people don't necessarily care about insobriety or being "out of control"; most people just want to have a great time. But for my cousin, sobriety is a very big deal, hence my questions on his behalf =D
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For me is about 100mg where I'm like ok, I'm on drugs, 150-180 is my usual dosage with a 60-80mg booster
 
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