Is This the Answer to Drug Use?

vibr8tor said:
How does this affect the ADHD kids that test + for amphetamines because of their medication?


Just like any other drug test. You provide proof of your medications, and they will ignore the positive result. Trust me, I've been on probation for quite awhile, that's how it works, they allow medications prescribed by medical personnel. I was sitting in a room one day with another probationee waiting on our test results with a cop standing at the door. He had been in a car accident and had to bring in the bottles of all his prescribed pain medications, and if they had had any questions about his meds, they would have contacted his doctor to verify. Prescribed meds will not get you in trouble.
 
This is disgusting, once a high school student steps foot on campus they loose all their rights promised by the constitution. It's absurd really, so what they may be young but they should not be subjected to random drug tests to determine wether or not they can participate in school activities. Thank god when I was in high school they didn't try and pull this shit on me. I would never consent to that, I would rather have been expelled then silently obey the school and literally piss away my rights.
 
tripmonkey505 said:
I'd never piss in a cup for school hahhahah I'd whip my dick out and piss on whoever asked me to take the test.

Being how I was in school, thats the first thing that popped into my head..
 
If this is the answer, then what was the question? "How do we invade our children's privacy more than we do already?"?
 
I've had to piss in a cup for my school on more than one occasion... the only time I was in danger of failing, though, I was the last in line and didn't give them enough piss to test. I guess they were tired of handling piss all day, so they said fuck it and just left...
 
Really....I was just thinking...thank God I live in a country where personal freedom is a right. Random urine screens on highschool students? Man, I'd be all over them like flies on shit with lawyers out the f'ing whazoo if anyone tried that on my child.

Watch out...big brother is here!
 
Wow, this is appalling. I bet if the school i went to last year was tested half of our students would come up positive. what are they going to do, ban half our school from extra curriculars? ha!

and i know for a fact all of the student council engaged in drug use.

god iam glad i live in Canada, although the police were at my school every day and i saw many a raids on student lockers...

its a sad state of affairs when they would go after high school students instead of the ones supplying to the students... geez
 
haha, this policy always cracks me up. My parents always asked why I stopped playing hockey in highschool....viola! here's your answer. All this policy is alienate drug using people from extra curriculars and school participation. And then they'll say the kids don't participate 'cause all they wanna do is get high. Time to go snort a bag of dope then go to SAC meeting, god I love college.
 
IAmJacksUserName said:
While I sort of agree that high schools should be drug free zones, and that drug use in high school beyond simple experimentation isn't such a good idea, schools should have zero authority to enforce student conduct outside of school.

i agree beyond words.
 
wow thats bs.
the people that do drugs aren't all usually the people you would expect.
even drug users are intelligent. avg+ gpa.

people will do drugs regardless of authority.
 
FDRinTRINIDAD said:
This is disgusting, once a high school student steps foot on campus they loose all their rights promised by the constitution.

Actually, believe it or not, after a student leaves the house on their way to school they are in the hands of the school, well at least for students who take the bus. I remember kids would throw snowballs before getting on the bus or some bullshit, and they'd suspend them later if they found out. Shit like that always pissed me off simply because I knew it was bullshit.

But yea, I'm totally against this policy, it's definitely invading privacy in many ways.
 
absolutely ridiculous

even if i didn't have a single drug in my system i'd refuse to take that test

its complete bullshit, they shouldn't have that right
 
The actual problem here is that drugs are illegal. All the school is doing is trying to enforce a federal law that drugs are illegal blah blah. It's just another detection method in my opinion. There's two problems with it though, firstly it's a stupid overinvasive invasion of privacy in order to track down a really not very serious crime and secondly, DRUGS SHOULDN'T BE ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE (ignoring probable age limits put on drugs if they were legalised).

Fuck the "Land of the Free" :|
 
I went to a private school, and I'm completely surprised they never tried to pull any of this bullshit when I was there. God it's such a load of horseshit that they can get away with this stuff. If I had a kid at a school that tried to randomly drug test them, I'd throw such a shit fit.
 
bromance said:
I went to a private school, and I'm completely surprised they never tried to pull any of this bullshit when I was there. God it's such a load of horseshit that they can get away with this stuff. If I had a kid at a school that tried to randomly drug test them, I'd throw such a shit fit.
And if I were to ever have kids (doubtful) that were then asked to take a test to prove themselves "innocent" I would tell them ahead of time to always refuse a drug test in school. That way I could be the one to get the phone call and the administration could deal with me. What lies outside of school is just that, outside... if my kid was caught in school is a different story.

I have mixed views on the age that kids should start experimenting... fuck I was 16 the first time i rolled and started doing the "good stuff" (shit other than Mary Jane). It may not seem young to some of you... but if the life expectancy is 80 years... that isnt even a 1/4th of the time you will be alive. I kind of have the mentality that you should be at least 18 to use drugs because at that point you are considered an adult and are expected to make "adult" decisions. Now if you experiment younger than that it is a choice... and all will be washed away at 18... but now you have your parents to deal with if caught (same as it has always been). But if drugs were legal... 18... including alcohol. Also proper education of drugs in their entirety (such as a supplement to Chemistry, Biology and History) would be much more beneficial than the anti-drug campaigns like DARE (Drugs Are Really Expensive? :)) I would have loved having some additional materials as a student that were "Drug Classes" that included all said classes... the chemical composition and makeup, the "true" effects that drugs had on my body, and how those studied drugs came into existence! Hell Bluelight could even be extra credit! :D
 
l0ckd0wn said:
Hell Bluelight could even be extra credit! :D

i like the sound of this...

;)

it has been grade-ifically proven that i perform better when i use drugs.
i almost always limit my drug use (out of choice) to weekends, and the release that marijuana provides me from stress and anxiety in fact motivates me to work in the upcoming week.

and that's not to mention the unbridled positivity that psychedelics provide...

i think what we really need is better EDUCATION.
for fuck's sake, we're talking about schools here...
i know so many wonderfully intelligent people who are abso-fucking clueless about responsible drug use. and i believe that this is often due to taboo.
kids are never going to stop taking drugs.
let's just try and ensure they do so safely
 
LOL! I love that mom of the kid who died from a heroin overdose saying "He wouldn't have risked not being able to participate by smoking marijuana on the weekends. I wish there was more testing" or something along those lines...

First of all lady, there's a big difference between 'smoking marij-u-wanna' and shooting heroin. Chances are, it wasn't his first time shooting heroin, and he's probably been past weed for a long time, and the weed isnt even what killed him, the heroin did. Second, if you REALLY think he'd become a straight arrow and never do drugs for the rest of his life (or even for a fucking DAY) so he can go kick around some fucking soccer ball or some shit, you underestimate addiction.

If anything, he'd just stick a needle in his arm then ask the straightedge nerdy kid to piss in a blunt tube for him. The kids who do alot of drugs know how to cheat it. The kids that get caught are the kids that don't do much drugs and dont know shit about drugs (most of the time). In other words, this doesn't even target drug addicts that need help (real drug addicts spend most of their time thinking about drugs, and are way past the system on how to beat the tests)...it instead targets kids who have simply experimented a bit but dont even have a problem yet.

The fucked up ness of our system.
 
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