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is this set and setting ok for first lsd experience ?

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Iam going to try lsd this weekend with one of my friend in nature where we can see stallion horses running around . the place is massive that we can keep our distance if necessary.and you see very few people walking with their dogs. last time we only saw 2,3 people a mile away. Im abit nervous as this is my first time .also whenever i use cannabis in large dose i get anxiety and panic so thats another reason iam nervous .(how ever i had same feeling for mdma but when i done it there was no anxiety and i had very good experince but i guess lsd will not be as smooth as mdma)
Iv been studying pychedelic/ laws of attraction and spirituality for a year i know alot about them . im always looking for answers and i plan to go to peru to take ayahuasca hopefully soon. my mind is open to the fact that lsd can change your perspective on life (which i think i already achieved , but dont know for sure)
so my question is with all these background will i still get that anxiety /panicy feeling that i get from weed? and is the place iam going to take it safe in ur opinion ?

thanks alot.
 
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Honestly I wouldn't recommend going out in nature. It could be incredible if the trip goes well but I think it's more important to be in a place you know extremely well, are 100% comfortable with and aren't likely to run into sober people...especially for your first time.
Basically I can think of amazing trips where being in the middle of trees etc. would have been the best possible scenario, and I can also think of the worst trip I've ever had where it would have made things a billion times more terrifying.
The only thing that matters IMO when it comes to setting for a psych experience, is to not have any nervousness relating to the place where you'll be taking it or the people you'll be taking it with. You just need to feel as safe as you possibly can. If you think that would be achieved in that setting then go for it :)
 
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Iam going to try lsd this weekend with one of my friend in nature where we can see stallion horses running around . the place is massive that we can keep our distance if necessary. Im abit nervous as this is my first time .also whenever i use cannabis in large dose i get anxiety and panic so thats another reason iam nervous .(how ever i had same feeling for mdma but when i done it there was no anxiety and i had very good experince but i guess lsd will not be as smooth as mdma)
Iv been studying pychedelic/ laws of attraction and spirituality for a year i know alot about them . im always looking for answers and i plan to go to peru to take ayahuasca hopefully soon. my mind is open to the fact that lsd can change your perspective on life (which i think i already achieved , but dont know for sure)
so my question is with all these background will i still get that anxiety /panicy feeling that i get from weed? and is the place iam going to take it safe in ur opinion ?

thanks alot.

that sounds like a perfect place for a first trip man.

if you arent psyched on tripping at a specific point in time, i would wait until you feel its definitely the right moment.
 
From the two polar opposites above, its easy to see that no one person can tell you if a given situation is going to be the best for you. In my opinion, it's just got to be a place you feel comfortable in. For all we know you may have a phobia of wood chips or some odd thing which may make you uncomfortable in a particular place. I used to enjoy the coast, myself. I would be comfortable on the horse farm thing as long as the horses are happy.
Nothing like a sad horse to ruin your high:-\
Hope you have a great day!
 
Iam going to try lsd this weekend with one of my friend in nature where we can see stallion horses running around . the place is massive that we can keep our distance if necessary.and you see very few people walking with their dogs. last time we only saw 2,3 people a mile away. Im abit nervous as this is my first time .also whenever i use cannabis in large dose i get anxiety and panic so thats another reason iam nervous .(how ever i had same feeling for mdma but when i done it there was no anxiety and i had very good experince but i guess lsd will not be as smooth as mdma)
Iv been studying pychedelic/ laws of attraction and spirituality for a year i know alot about them . im always looking for answers and i plan to go to peru to take ayahuasca hopefully soon. my mind is open to the fact that lsd can change your perspective on life (which i think i already achieved , but dont know for sure)
so my question is with all these background will i still get that anxiety /panicy feeling that i get from weed? and is the place iam going to take it safe in ur opinion ?

thanks alot.

My first time i dropped acid, I was downtown vancouver at stanley park, SOOOOOOOO many people I started freakin' out but my friend told me to sit down n chill the fuck out and that brought me to, then we walked all through china town laughed so much n then i whited out was pretty fun but never did I ever freak out after the come up. It's probably best not to do that though most people their first time can't even handle anything with that much stuff going on, literally everything starting to spin but i thought it was fantastic, also was first time doing psychedelics and only did mdma 3 times prior
 
Nothing like a sad horse to ruin your high:-\

Hahahahahah. So true.

But yeah I agree with what you said. None of us can tell you, the only thing that matters is whether you feel completely safe and comfortable in that environment. I personally always prefer tripping in a place I know very well just because I know that if it turns bad, I'll handle it better if I'm at home - but I'm sure that's not the case for everyone so yeah. As long as you feel comfortable.
 
Another thing, weed is VERY anxiogenic and having a panic attack from it tells you nothing about your ability to handle psychedelics. Sure, psychedelics aren't like a benzo either but most of the anxiety is just social weirdness. That setting seems perfect, there's no reason for worry!
 
I'd make sure not not smoke pot on your first trip, because that is likely to lead to extra nasty paranoia and panic. With the setting I'd bring water and maybe some fruit and granola bars, a blanket or something to lay on and/or a tent if that wouldn't be out of place in your location, and some TP if there are are not any public restrooms. Sounds perfect if you come prepared.
 
Agreed with kidklmx, weed can make people paranoid and anxious in ways that psychedelics don't but then again if the reasons are purely psychological e.g. feeling insecure or having control issues etc, it can happen with different substances.

That is why it is a good idea to have a good backup plan, often having an escape option is enough to feel much less like you need it. It makes sure that you don't feel like your back is against a wall.

The setting you describe sounds like a great place but especially if the trip does not spin out of control, and chances are generally that it won't. But there is a slight chance that you will want to be able to go to a familiar place like your home or that of your parents or something like that, well it depends on a lot of factors but some people can just be triggered to get homesick.

One time I went to a cabin in nature with friends and we tripped on acid and hash oil. I had a lot of experience under my belt but I had a pretty nasty trip because I got hypersensitive (in a tactile sense among other things) which combined pretty disastrously with the onslaught of many mosquitos, which seemed to be multiplied in numbers by the trip.
Unfortunately we got pretty indecisive and the trip was too strong for a while for us to make it back. When the peak was finally over it was getting dark and we had to stay. After a while I pulled myself together and we had an awesome night dancing on music blasting from a great soundsystem, even combining other drugs. It was a pretty special night (until I got food poisoning from a badly stored shrimp meal-salad that is!).

I am not saying that to make you scared, just to illustrate that while there are great things about nature, it can be tricky. It is not really a controllable environment like you have at home but it is a lot better than most places in the city that are not anyone's home.
 
I'd make sure not not smoke pot on your first trip, because that is likely to lead to extra nasty paranoia and panic. With the setting I'd bring water and maybe some fruit and granola bars, a blanket or something to lay on and/or a tent if that wouldn't be out of place in your location, and some TP if there are are not any public restrooms. Sounds perfect if you come prepared.

Granola bars? That is a guaranteed way to bum out a trip.
 
Everyone has their own taste of course, but I believe it is a known and remarkable phenomenon that psychedelics (especially classical psychedelics though) can cause a person's feelings about food to change dramatically. Often natural and wholesome foods are preferred and fatty foods are not tolerated as well.

I guess it has something to do with being reduced to primitive intuitions and we have an extremely long history with natural foods but not with modern foods and/or we are much more aware of what is good for us.
 
The last camping trip I had on acid I cooked a duck ragu and pasta with grated parmesan, washed down with a nice wine. I can tell you that put me in a much better mind set than a fucking granola bar.
 
I didnt eat anything on my last trip

if you can't keep it under control for 2 seconds of time when youre walking past a stranger at the horse place or w/e I'm not sure if you should really take it period
 
The last camping trip I had on acid I cooked a duck ragu and pasta with grated parmesan, washed down with a nice wine. I can tell you that put me in a much better mind set than a fucking granola bar.

lol, wife said the best chowder I ever made was when I was still ++ coming off DXM + 2C-E. I ate a fucking granola bar while it was cooking, and it was delicious. Shit, now I'm gonna have to get loaded and start reducing the apple juice and toasting the oats and make my own damn granola.
So yeah maybe if Op has the skills and the camp stove maybe he should get a little more creative and take his time with some food prep, but ain't nothin' wrong with healthy convenience food. Always questioned the harm reduction qualities of handling knives and hot things while on a new drug, not that isn't a fulfilling way to spend ones time.
 
If you can't handle a sharp knife while tripping you shouldn't be allowed in public. The hardest thing I had to contend with is the fact that gas fitting threads generally turn the opposite direction, for safety ironically enough ;)
 
You're kidding right? Otherwise what a load of nonsense. It is very possible even for seasoned trippers to temporarily go into a state of consciousness so dissociated or depersonalized that having to handle hazardous things without supervision would not always be that safe. Just like driving a car wouldn't be if you have such a visual soup going that it is hard to differentiate between objects on the road or spatially judge things I would probably prefer not to slice sausages if I cannot differentiate between sausages and my fingers.

If you don't like grenola bars, then just choose something else. What is a more important point is that if you cannot be sure of making proper judgement calls like how I poisoned myself with those shrimps, having stuff to eat that are easy and don't need preparation seems like a very wise idea.
You can at least have it on hand as a backup plan, and still bring stuff to cook.
 
Jesus Solipsis, sounds like someone needs a snickers ;)

Don't run with scissors if you think you might fall, but that doesn't mean the rest of us need to be mollycoddled.
 
mollycoddled.

lol

what a word, what a word

one time I started grilling hot dogs and totally forgot about them as soon as I went back inside and they blew up in my grill

went out back an hour later and saw the smoke coming out of the grill and just was like yeah those are probably gonna be a little burnt...

wound up just going to chick-fil-a, was delicious
 
Iam going to try lsd this weekend with one of my friend in nature where we can see stallion horses running around . the place is massive that we can keep our distance if necessary.and you see very few people walking with their dogs. last time we only saw 2,3 people a mile away. Im abit nervous as this is my first time .also whenever i use cannabis in large dose i get anxiety and panic so thats another reason iam nervous .(how ever i had same feeling for mdma but when i done it there was no anxiety and i had very good experince but i guess lsd will not be as smooth as mdma)
Iv been studying pychedelic/ laws of attraction and spirituality for a year i know alot about them . im always looking for answers and i plan to go to peru to take ayahuasca hopefully soon. my mind is open to the fact that lsd can change your perspective on life (which i think i already achieved , but dont know for sure)
so my question is with all these background will i still get that anxiety /panicy feeling that i get from weed? and is the place iam going to take it safe in ur opinion ?

thanks alot.
The Law of attraction is psychedelic? The law of attraction is one of the laws of the universe don't think it's psychedelic though.

About a good trip. If you psyche yourself out like you're doing you may not have that great of a trip also if it's cut with speed ( wich most is) that usually contributes to a "bad trip". Just do it and enjoy it. If you start having a bad trip, just be aware of it and laugh at it. If you see anybody else don't tell them your on it. Never tell anybody else what your on it could get you in big trouble.

Been over a decade since I had any L. No way I could do it now as you need a good amount of time to dedicate to the trip.
 
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