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Is this just horribly wrong, or is that just me...

lacey k said:
I aint never cheated in my life. I see that youre bein sarcastic and shit, but seriously its pretty fuckin insulting to someone who dont cheat and never will to hear that when it just aint true. that dude was just referring to most women, and it is true about most women. Most women are whores. Not all of them. most of them. most women do cheat. most men do cheat. in general, people fuckin suck and are pieces of shit with no understanding of love trust or loyalty. but, that dont change the fact that there is some of us who aint like that at all.

And thats why i hate women, because they give women like me who aint like that, a bad name.
I don't lump you into the generalization of women. Your a Godlike mythical creature of perfection to come true.

My comments that echo the opinions of the authors statements, are simply bold expressions of what he is saying to illustrate the sheer folly of his statements.

Not all human beings are perfect, but not all human beings are horrid creatures either, and to make such broad judgmental statements, shows that one has not rationally reflected upon one's own beliefs.

To be connected to others misdeeds, through simple biological similarities completely ignores the fact that everyone is a human, and everyone has the potential to be an individual.
 
^ Actually, people bail on relationships quickly because they're just not that into you...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but what you've posted above is a load of illogical tripe. It's completely logical to break it off with someone, if you don't care for them enough [read: to tolerate existing circumstances.]
 
Ah, Doppelganger, I totally want to do you. ;) =D

Ghettochrist said:
i have witnessed the cheating nature of women, where most male friends or people i know would have turned down a sexual offer because they are loyal, the female will just go with it and convince herself it never happened and not even accept the guilt. Not saying this is true for all women or men, but it's definately a trend i've noticed to quite a degree.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you need to find some new fuckin friends. Moreover, stop hanging out with skanks, and stop hanging out with loser fuckheads that date skanks. Not saying that to be mean, but I gotta make this point, and your post was a good jumping point:

WOMEN DO NOT CHEAT ANY MORE THAN MEN DO. PERIOD. BOTH GENDERS CHEAT, BOTH DO IT WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR THEIR PARTNER, AND BOTH DO IT BECAUSE OF THE SAME MORAL PROBLEMS. AND (warning: shocker alert) BOTH MEN AND WOMEN DO IT FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS!

Lacey K put it pretty damn well.


Also, warehousepunk, wanna take a look at some of my pics? People tell me I'm pretty good looking.... (;)) I'm a stripper, and I have guys "throwing their dicks" at me every night at work. And these aren't all low-class dickheads that can't get laid - many of them are very attractive, doctors, lawyers, you name it. I've gotten a guy to jizz his pants without even taking a single stitch of his clothing off. I've watched guys count how much money they have left and then leave after they give it all to me. And then come back next week and give me more. Instead of any of the 30 other girls I'm working with. And I still don't have an attitude problem. In fact, the one comment I get most from guys in "real life" is how I'm so "chill" and "not bitchy like other girls."

And I've never cheated on a boyfriend. Ever. Not even when I was unhappy in my relationship, thoroughly plastered, sleeping in the dorm room of three guys in a different state, and one of them tried really fucking hard to bed me. There is absolutely no way I would have ever been caught. And I still didn't cheat.

And guys like this are why I'm not dating men right now. :D
 
I am a serial cheater. I love my sex and I never cared where it came from. Until recently. I have met a guy - calll him Mr A - who I adore and ever since the DAY I met him I didn't want to sleep with anyone but him. I did sleep with someone else - Mr B - who I happened to be with when I met him. But after meeting Mr A I just didn't want or feel sex with Mr B like I used to. I ended it wil Mr B a week after meeting Mr A and now, four months later, I just had sex for the first time in 15 weeks which is something MASSIVE for me. And it was with Mr A and couldn't have been better.

The point of this story is. If you cheat you aren't happy in the relationship subconciously, or conciously. Just end it so you don't hurt your partner and yourself and wait for the right person. Someone who you want only to be with them. There is no point hurting many people in your quest to find your soulmate. You just need to be patient.
 
I hope I never meet this prick (he doesnt deserve the title of 'author' so prick will do just fine) because I might "accidently" kick him in the balls so hard he'll never use them again.

There's only one reason someone would go to a seminar on "bagging a chick" and that is because they cant do it themselves. So I dont care how many books hes sold or seminars hes given because the only people who use those are desperate themselves.

Anyway, a lot of you made some really good comments that I really appriciated so I wouldnt break my computer monitor. I cant say that I feel bad for him or pity him at all because IMO if he never finds someone to settle down with or share the rest of his life with or to be there for him throughout the hard times in his life, well, hes brought that fully upon himself.
 
He's a misogynst asshole... and downunder, dude you're comments weren't appropriate.
 
as soon as someone says "all _________ do __________" or "everyone who is ____ does _________," you know it's bullshit, because it's just not true. you can agree with it or disagree, but that's the beauty of opinions and individuality. those aren't facts, but the man is too stupid to know the difference. i personally think he's crap, and it pissed me off a little.

but not that much. because i know i'm not part of his 80% success rate. :)
 
greenfalcon said:
not to mention modest :P
Just illustrating a point dude. I honestly don't believe I'm that attractive. On a good day, I might give myself a 7 or 8. But my version of reality and other people's is most often not in sync (apparently a lot like this guy). If you think it's bullshit, go ask the lounge. =D
 
kittyinthedark said:
Just illustrating a point dude. I honestly don't believe I'm that attractive. On a good day, I might give myself a 7 or 8. But my version of reality and other people's is most often not in sync (apparently a lot like this guy). If you think it's bullshit, go ask the lounge. =D
So you rate yourself a 7 or 8 stars out of 5 right?

I concur.
 
kittyinthedark said:
Ah, Doppelganger, I totally want to do you. ;) =D


AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, you need to find some new fuckin friends. Moreover, stop hanging out with skanks, and stop hanging out with loser fuckheads that date skanks. Not saying that to be mean, but I gotta make this point, and your post was a good jumping point:

WOMEN DO NOT CHEAT ANY MORE THAN MEN DO. PERIOD. BOTH GENDERS CHEAT, BOTH DO IT WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR THEIR PARTNER, AND BOTH DO IT BECAUSE OF THE SAME MORAL PROBLEMS. AND (warning: shocker alert) BOTH MEN AND WOMEN DO IT FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS!

Lacey K put it pretty damn well.


Also, warehousepunk, wanna take a look at some of my pics? People tell me I'm pretty good looking.... (;)) I'm a stripper, and I have guys "throwing their dicks" at me every night at work. And these aren't all low-class dickheads that can't get laid - many of them are very attractive, doctors, lawyers, you name it. I've gotten a guy to jizz his pants without even taking a single stitch of his clothing off. I've watched guys count how much money they have left and then leave after they give it all to me. And then come back next week and give me more. Instead of any of the 30 other girls I'm working with. And I still don't have an attitude problem. In fact, the one comment I get most from guys in "real life" is how I'm so "chill" and "not bitchy like other girls."

And I've never cheated on a boyfriend. Ever. Not even when I was unhappy in my relationship, thoroughly plastered, sleeping in the dorm room of three guys in a different state, and one of them tried really fucking hard to bed me. There is absolutely no way I would have ever been caught. And I still didn't cheat.

And guys like this are why I'm not dating men right now. :D


the comment you get from most guys IRL -

just out of curiosity.. you're known on bl for being high maintenance, high drama, handle with kid gloves.. etc..

so what exactly are you putting forth on bl vs what you're showing online? what's the facade here?

also.. you're a stripper. for what reason? you had au pairs growing up. obviously you're not short on money. you have another job. pray tell, what are you stripping for? daddy issues? you're not paying for school, are ya?

perhaps there are other reasons why you're not dating. i've read many posts where you've been fucked over by friends and boyfriends. where did all this come from? suddenly you're wanted by all? which is it? :) strippers are hustlers. you're there to provide a fantasy, however perverse or pathetic. it's not like they really even like you. but whatev. :) fat chicks get dicks "thrown" at them. you can claim that you lack attitude but ever since your new stripper phase, kitd is in your face! half the posts you make seem to reference the fact that you're a stripper. you may think you don't have an attitude, but there is a definite change in your attitude now.
 
I kind of get mixed feelings reading this article. I'm a guy; 28; ok looking; average dick; average height. I've had sex with 17 women in my life. Not that many I guess. And I've given up on ever finding a true life partner/mate. I just don't think it's in the cards for me. I have been cheated on and I have cheated myself a few times. I felt nothing at the moment I was committing the act... but felt utterly terrible and worthless later on. When I found out that the first girl I ever loved had cheated on me ( after we had broken up) I was utterly devastated. I couldn't shake it. My world was wiped out. I spiraled down into a hell I would never wish on anyone; it was agony- for months and months after the fact. I know most people feel hurt at first and then move on in a fairly standardized amount of time, or so it seems to me. But I was wrecked for longer than the entirety of the relationship. Some may call me a pussy or a wuss or whatever; and in that sense you wouldn't be 100% wrong.

I'm the type of person that feels very deeply and when I'm betrayed it cuts me deeply in equal measure. And now at 28 I don't think I can even try any more. Something in my childhood maybe.... I cannot find a relationship or get laid to save my life. But as lonely as I am I couldn't bring myself to take up the act as this guy prescribes. Why? I just can't make myself take this little game of manipulation; partly because I don't think I could pull it off believably, and partly beacuse I know it's jut wrong and pointless. Even though I really do miss the affection now and then- not just sex but simple touch, I couldn't bring myself to behave like the guy who wrote the article. God I'm such a 'beta' in many ways. It's just my conditioned nature, what can I say? I'm cynical like this guy because I've seen first hand the truth of what he says. Maybe not exactly in the numbers and percentages that this guy quotes, but pretty close. Some of seemingly sweetest, nicest girls I've either met or dated or heard of or witnessed first hand have decieved the man they swear they love. And it's happened to me as well. And the whole thing is, other than make myself a player out to take revenge on all women by manipulating them like this guy describes, I've gone the opposite route. I've shut down, I don't even try any more. I'm like a dog that has been kicked one to many times by it's owner; I don't think I'll ever be able to trust a woman. What's worse is that I feel at fault for this in some way. If only I was better looking, had more money, a better personality, a bigger dick, anything, Id be worthy of of fidelity and love and respect.

But I can't convince myself otherwise. That belief is so deeply ingrained in me that I'm afraid I will be one these people that never marries or even has a long term, meaningful relationship. I've self prophesized the shit out of myself, beaten myself down so badly, that this may well indeed be my fate. As I write this I can feel a sadness and sense of desperation so overwhelming wash over me. A kind of spiritual agony, if you will. It feels like a prison sentence in a cell with no windows and no hope of ever being paroled. The pain is so bad that it has gone to the extreme of being suicidal, the only thing that keeps that at bay is paxil these days. I live a meaningless life it seems; one without love or sweetness or loyalty, or tenderness or fidelity. There is no one who is out there who can't bear to be without me, and it all tears at me in a way that I hope no one will ever fully understand. Anyway, sorry about this lengthy self-pity post, that article just triggered these thoughts. And I thought I'd throw in a different perspective on this. Peace out BLers.
 
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MachineGunBallad said:
if you're going out to bars/clubs, these socially sanctioned mating grounds, the vast majority of girls there are like this. and the vast majority of guys are either a) like this guy or b) trying to be this guy. it's all shallow, superficial, disgusting, and lame, but if you want to have sex with "5 women who are 8+ in attractiveness," it's a game you have to play. What kind of intellectual/moral/character compensation you have to make to get to this point is something you might only see once you realize you can't relate to anyone of the opposite sex on any kind of meaningful level and you feel vastly incomplete and isolated and so very, very lonely.

How ridiculous! So you are saying that everybody who goes out to a bar or club and tries to pick up a girl is like this guy or trying to be like this guy? Most people who go out and pick up are single people who are after a bit of no strings attached fun or maybe to meet a girl and from that point onwards get to know her. True there are sleazes but the vast majority are not feeling 'vastly incomplete, isolated' or lacking in 'intellectual or moral' integrity. Most people who can go out and pick up girls are, in my opinion, probably more well adjusted, charming, confident and all round attractive to women than those who do not.

To call it 'superficial, disgusting or lame' is pigeonholing a significant proportion of young single men. I think you are either a prude, a virgin or someone who is repeatedly knocked back when trying to approach a woman. Either way you should change your attitude and go and have sex with a cute girl at a club:p

For the main topic of conversation: Yes the author of this article is a superficial wanker who is praying on the vulnerabilties of women.
 
tip a1: if ur tryin to meet 'the one'. You probably wont find her in any smokey club or bar.

tip a2: if you want love, look toward your general interest group, not the collective interest of getting hammered. I don't believe any relationship with two completely opposing people will ever work..

tip 2: Steer clear of any kind of emotional attachment to anyone, coz in the end you'll probably wind up like this guys dad, who probably got rorted by a woman lost his house, and the kid lost his old man. reality set in, realised his mum was a wench and now has no respect for women.
 
Beatlebot said:
I think somebody has been snorting too much coke.

best comment in this entire thread.

As for my opinion of the article, the guy is obviously an asshole, but he raises a couple valid points. I wont mention what i think is valid/invalid, cause i dont want to start a fight with *anyone* who may be high on cocaine right now ;)
 
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