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Is this just horribly wrong, or is that just me...

antithesis said:
honestly he isnt doing any worse than most people he is just honest about it
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He's not only 'being honest about it' but he's making women look like shit when he doesn't realise this reflects more badly on him.
 
Ishtar_Isis said:
Agreed indeed, however, the reason why this guy is able to get laid 200+ times may indeed have a lot to do with the potentially chemical impairment he and or the women he has hooked up with ;) .

Isis
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ditto... I was just coming in to say what a sad, sad person this would be, to always be looking for the bad and untrustworthy in people... because if that's what you look for, inevitably that's what you'll find.

Somewhere or another. Just another piece of proof to put in your puzzle, that sad bitter puzzle you self-perpetuate.
 
I'm familiar with this guy's works... His name is Ross Jeffries, and he sells a whole line of books, tapes, videos, etc that are all supposed to teach guys how to become pick-up artists and "how to have sex with any woman" 8(
 
I don't trust women to be faithful. The article is ridiculous but true in some ways. It seems the assholes are getting liad much more frequently than the nice guys.

Makes me worry because i'm one of those "chumps" that trusts his girl. In case anyone hasn't found out, BEING CHEATED ON MAKES YOU VERY SAD.

I never would cheat on my girl
 
^ It depends on whats important to you, just sex or relationship? I couldn't give a fuck about being laid just by anyone tbh.
 
wtf.. all this stuff is true, but it pertains to PEOPLE, not just WOMEN.

if the article wasnt written with such an OBVIOUS bias (jesus even i was offended!), it would be easier to pick out the "true" pieces form the bullshit.

sadly, my experiences with girls correlate exactly with what he said--down to cheating and answering the phone/lying while naked with me =P

i dont see that this only applies to WOMEN tho... he missed the irony of his own promiscuity, lol. i bet half those women were manipulating HIM.

men are just as shallow and instinct-based.

he does have some good stuff in there regarding getting laid tho--if you do what he says you WILL have more luck~ personal experience as a moderately attractive (not out of the ordinary) male really does go along with what he says...
 
^ damn straight... i love it when you make perfect sense.

anyone can play anyone.

especially in a world were we are not just marketed for, but market driven.

and especially when everyone thinks its their turn to play.
 
1.) I think this guy has some misogynistic issues that extend well before he supposedly started getting play. To add to what SLM already said, if you're looking for lazy, drug-dealing blacks or illegal Mexicans, you're going to find them.

2.) I knew a guy like this, actually; he was a few years younger than I was, and nothing to look at, but he took great pride in his ability to seduce women. He said he could fuck any woman, attached or not, just by feeling out their personality and adapting himself perfectly to it. It was a strategy game for him, like chess; he actually did it to a girl living the floor above me.

Anyways, the moral of the story is: caveat emptor.
 
sadly, my experiences with girls correlate exactly with what he said--down to cheating and answering the phone/lying while naked with me =P
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thats just the point though, the girl who is not going to cheat on her SO wouldnt be lying in bed naked with you. i fail to see how all of a sudden just because it happens with some, it automatically correlates to 'all'.

i used to fuck a few girls on the regular who had boyfriends. i once made a girl cum while on the phone with her boy, i know about this shit, but ive also been shot down by girls who really did love their guys and had absolutely no desire what so ever to stray. i can spit a mean game (nothing like this guy, sure, but i do alright), but in the end not all woman are shallow as hell like that, and for the record neither are all men.

have you really lost all faith in the human race? are we really nothing more than hormone driven biological masses looking for nothing more than a quick fix, a moment of pleasure?
 
subopm420 said:
i once made a girl cum while on the phone with her boy, i know about this shit, but ive also been shot down by girls who really did love their guys and had absolutely no desire what so ever to stray.
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And I've been both of those types of women at various stages in my life. I am a good person with ultimately good motives, who's fucked up now and again.
I believe my karma for that came in the form of men who in turn cheated on and lied to me in return. Probably moreover, the punishment was the dissillusionment of my fantasies, and grief for the loss of the person I thought I was.

I've been fucked around hardcore in relationships; sometimes rationalisation helps (it's not me, it's him) but other times I just wanted to curl up and die from shame, from being so completely needy and gullible. From the least horrible.....being dumped for no reason. to having my 5-year boyfriend surrupticiously sneak out in the night while I was asleep, pinch my credit card to take cash advances for himself.. to the tune of $3000. Thank god for ATM surveillence cameras; I didn't believe it until I saw with my own eyes.

And the biggest one of all, being cheated on with 'another girlfriend' (who didn't know about me either), for 3 years of a 4 year relationship. I still have no trouble at all trusting men.

SUMMARY: I do know bitterness. But I also know it doesn't serve you at all.
The anger I really felt over those situations was anger towards myself, because we all create the situations we find ourselves in. Bitterness and cynicism about life and relationships will never bring a sense of villification and completeness because it's totally an empty victory. You're no happier just because you've manouvered yourself into the position of being 'right."

I never lost faith in men despite all the gutwrenching experiences I've had in my 32 years.

I choose to still be surprised and still be open to the best in people; I can happily (still) entrust my secrets or my heart to just about anyone I think is worthy. For me it's like, what's the worst that can happen? It's already happened... bring it on! And best case scenario you've made a friend for life, or attracted a similar trust back towards you. Either way you've attempted to let a new experience in despite what you reckon is true about people.

no I'm not fucking Pollyanna by any means but an attitude such as that article really shits me. Bitter, angry young men, I know they're everywhere but I completely don't understand why. A girl rejected you? Boo fucking hoo! That happens to EVERYONE. Women can also get rejected, beaten, abused mentally and physically, and although I know there are some hardcore 'man haters' out there, I've never actually seen them on SLR. And if SLR is a representative of male/female attitudes about relationships, males are overly represented in the 'you hurt me, now I will lash out at anyone who even vaguely reminds me of you' stakes.

Women hating: Quite a convenient way to avoid taking responsibility for your role in relationships, a common interest that allows you to connect with other socially stunted morons who'll pat you on the back and perpetuate that nothing's your fault, and maybe the perfect brick wall - with sarcasm and irony as grouting - that ensures you never, ever again have to be vulnerable.

If I come through the shit I've just mentioned and still retain my innate love and respect for males I don't see how it's so hard for guys to do the same.

Because after all you know deep down it's not "all" women who fuck guys around, any more than it's all "men" who are cheating bastards and not to be trusted. But both are clearly an easy target when your dignity has taken a blow.
 
antithesis said:
honestly he isnt doing any worse than most people he is just honest about it
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Except he isn't just admitting he's a fuckin soulless bastard, he's claiming that his impropriety is a clear implication of women's complete inability to control their behavior and total inferiority to men. I'd say that most women are just fine and it's him that has the problem.

but wtfever man.... I just wanted to know that I wasn't nuts for thinking this was out of line. I'll be the first to tell you that a LOT of girls do a LOT of that stuff. I've had female friends pull the same crap on me. But not ALL.
 
Strawberry_lovemuffin said:
Women hating: Quite a convenient way to avoid taking responsibility for your role in relationships, a common interest that allows you to connect with other socially stunted morons who'll pat you on the back and perpetuate that nothing's your fault, and maybe the perfect brick wall - with sarcasm and irony as grouting - that ensures you never, ever again have to be vulnerable.
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One of the best posts ever. Word to everything that has you said SLM, especially this^.

It is a hallmark of a bitter person, IMO, to blame past negative experiences on situations, external factors out of their control, as opposed to looking within and seeing what contribution you yourself had to the overall outcome. It very well may be the case that you were treated unfaily/poorly/harshly. But really, wah wah wah.

Life was never meant to be fair. To then dwell on that 'injustice', as if you had some sort of right to be treated fairly and ethically in all situations is the most inane concept i have ever heard of. I hate to use cliches, but really, the old 'all is fair in love & war' seems to spring to mind.

What shits me lotsandlotsandlotsandlots about the article read: generic bitter person is that he chooses to ignore the variables of human nature. All he has done is gather all his unfortunate experiences with girls and attribute them to a gender, as opposed to them just simply being dipshits. Talking about any gender as if you had the key to what, ONE WHOLE HALF OF THE POPULATION, is ridiculous. Moreover, it is arrogant if one thinks they can assume something about a huge group of people simply on the basis of one, albeit fundamental, attribute.

Not all women are sluts. Just as much as not all men are arseholes. To assume so is not only based on one's own limited experiences with a few people, but one that you assume to your own detriment. Don't let wankers like this blind you to the fact that we are all free to act as we choose, morally or immorally, and this in no way EVER correlates to a certain gender.

Although i do think this whole 'Men are From Mars' type thing is something that exacerbates this type of thinking.:\
 
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He may well have been fucking five chicks as he was writing the article (so he says), but is he *happy*?

Obviously he was at ^that^ time ;), but I doubt very much if he'll find any kind of proper, long-term fulfillment any time soon. He sounds like a teenager who's just found out what his dick's for. 8)
 
so, i didn't read through that sick diatribe thoroughly, but wow.

i'm betting he's got teh ghey, and he's covering up with a beard (or...200 beards).
 
felixdahousekat said:
He may well have been fucking five chicks as he was writing the article (so he says), but is he *happy*?

Obviously he was at ^that^ time ;), but I doubt very much if he'll find any kind of proper, long-term fulfillment any time soon. He sounds like a teenager who's just found out what his dick's for. 8)
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I doubt it keeps him happy for long, which is why he needs to fuck so many women. He's a fucking deluded idiot tbh.
 
He's probably looking for the embodiment of his mother, or something. Definitely a weird guy anyway, not the sort of person I would like in real life. 8)

But speaking of which... and contradicting myself... I do actually have a friend who would agree with a lot of what he said. This friend is turning into a total dickhead and I don't think he'll be a friend for much longer. (MANY other issues, not just this one. ) 8(
 
All the "article" proves is that young impressionable people can be easily manipulated. Even Mr Sexual God himself admits that after age 30 women are not so easily caught in his little web.
 
motorcyclist said:
this thread reminds me of something I read in an article a few years back.

In a survey given to women that were in relationships (either married or serious long term relationships), the question was asked: If you had the chance for a once-in-a-lifetime sexual or romantic encounter with no chance of your significant other ever finding out, would you do it?

70% said yes

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lol yeah and the one that said 55% of girls would cheat on their boyfriends with angelina jolie... wth girls are seriously untrustworthy

Everything the guy said is correct. It works too, more guys should follow his guidelines and you'll be more successful with women.
 
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