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Is this just horribly wrong, or is that just me...

kittyinthedark

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I read this article, and at first I was like, wow, this guy is totally right, but then... well.... i just got really, really, really mad and almost destroyed my keyboard and monitor all in one fell swoop. Tell me what you all think.

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The Truth About Women

by Unknown

I wasn't a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant.

I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and "true love conquers all" etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, "for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer" etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are "liberated" (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser instincts) this is mostly no longer possible in today's society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.

I'd like to point out that I am not a misogynist...I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.

I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women than most of the men in this city. I have slept with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good-looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be - most women have issues.) But that's not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in front of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I meet her on another day, assuming she doesn't flake, I WILL @#%$ her that next day.

Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn't change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I @#%$ her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I @#%$ her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've @#%$ her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I'm maybe a 7. I don't work out (though I'm not fat or anything.) In fact I didn't have any success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid... I was willing to face rejection a thousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I'm in my early 30's now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women @#%$ all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations... in fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got good, I could @#%$ just about anyone's wife or girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I @#%$ them.

Look, I'm not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I'm just saying, I've spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, because now there's really no going back. I didn't want to believe these things... but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal... but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents...but I could *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and @#%$ LOTS AND LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man...so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right - the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.

You might say, "But...but...I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

I'm going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those whores out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you're doing, and I'm on to your game!)

* Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.)

* Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down...just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

* Don't let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing - women hate a man who can't lead.

* When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them - like sex. (And they're right.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

* DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

* Don't ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

* To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you...playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down, do not say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.

* As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That's right...women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

* She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's @#%$ up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

* Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

* Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.

* Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

* Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

* BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not... because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)... because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!

* One more thing...many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don't listen to them, THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to @#%$ them and then dump them on their ass - because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That's why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to @#%$ them and dump them - because those are the men that they gravitate to.

Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their @#%$. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to @#%$ some old chick in her 30's? That's what beta males are for! Heh)

Hey, don't blame me - I didn't make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do :-)
 
Its true all women are [snip]
 
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^Uh, would you like to clarify before I report you???

I was with a (by all usual standards) totally unattractive skinny, pale, weak, passive, and otherwise "unmanly" guy who didn't treat me particularly well for almost 5 years, and I never cheated on him once. Even on several drunk occasions where multiple guys made overt advances on me. I fail to see how I'm a whore or how I'm destined to cheat no matter what.
 
kittyinthedark said:
^Uh, would you like to clarify before I report you???

I was with a (by all usual standards) totally unattractive skinny, pale, weak, passive, and otherwise "unmanly" guy who didn't treat me particularly well for almost 5 years, and I never cheated on him once. Even on several drunk occasions where multiple guys made overt advances on me. I fail to see how I'm a whore or how I'm destined to cheat no matter what.
^Lies.

All women are cheaters. That guy said so. Or maybe there are very few exceptions, but its doubtful.
 
it's easy to be cynical about a group of people if you only get to know the individuals on a superficial level. i'm skeptical as to how deeply you can get to know a woman when you are bagging them five at a time, and with that level of involvement i can see why all the author can do is identify negative patterns as he dismisses each girl one by one.

with all that said, i think there are some nuggets of truth scattered amidst his jadedness. after all, you can't sleep with 200+ women without learning at least a little something about how we work. this is the bit that resonated:

a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

food for thought at least...
 
Haha. This guy is so obsessed with studying how "disloyal" and promiscuous women are, that he is oblivious to the fact that he while not attached, lives quite the promiscuous lifestyle as well, and there are many men that are unfaithful as well.
 
Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault."

i think there is a lot of truth behind this statement as well. would many women prefer to be absolved of responsibility for sex? sure. but is that because we are innately devious, or is it because we'd rather not deal with the grossly unfair double standards associated with being sexually indulgent? i'd have to cast my vote for the latter.
 
For anyone who couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, here is the shortened, more PC version:

If you put enough effort into it for long enough, you can manipulate anyone into sleeping with you.

Then, if you like, you can privately judge them and feel superior to them.

My diagnoses? Inferiority complex brought on by less than average sexual prowess. Yes you can get people to have sex with you, getting them to keep wanting to have sex with you is a different matter. :D
 
^^^^ HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD beatlebot :)

i would be mad about the things his saying if i didnt feel so sorry for this guy. the way he views the world is just sad really.

There are definatly truths in what he is saying along with a lot of untruths though. The fact that he plays on womens weeknesses to sleep with them however, i find somewhat pathetic.

I could make a list of men's flaws & weaknesses but i dont really see the point in wasting my time on that because theres more to life than "getting laid".

Id like to point out also that PEOPLE cheat. Not "women" not "men" but PEOPLE.
 
Yes you can get people to have sex with you, getting them to keep wanting to have sex with you is a different matter.

that was my first thought when reading this. sure, there are bits and pieces of truth in there, but he's taking those and blowing them up to encompass every woman, everywhere, always.

it's just not true.
 
Beatlebot said:
For anyone who couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, here is the shortened, more PC version:

If you put enough effort into it for long enough, you can manipulate anyone into sleeping with you.

Then, if you like, you can privately judge them and feel superior to them.

My diagnoses? Inferiority complex brought on by less than average sexual prowess. Yes you can get people to have sex with you, getting them to keep wanting to have sex with you is a different matter. :D

I really don't think it takes that much time investment to do this to someone. It's actually quite easy... The way he is viewing it is quite, well... Yuck. Despite the way hes looking at this, it speaks a lot of truth imo. It's highly deppendent on the women he approaches though. Not all of them are like this; he says of 80% success, well those 20% probably wouldn't get involved with someone like this.

I know many of my friends are very strong willed and principles are paramount and would not get involved in a situation like this, they identify when people are fucking with their emotions and squelch that behaviour. It's pretty easy to identify someone who is toying with your emotions if you have any degree of emotional intelligence... I love my friends for their strength in character... Then there are some of my friends who arn't as strong and I have less respect for them because of that

Tbh I think it's a sad way to approach relationships, I have played with peoples emotions, family and friends it can be fun, but I wouldn't do it to the extent that it would hurt someone. When you start doing this in order for sex I think it's morally weak, you would have to question the validity of any relationship you're in. I feel sorry for him, I doubt he could ever trust someone in a relationship

trancegirle said:
Id like to point out also that PEOPLE cheat. Not "women" not "men" but PEOPLE.

In my experience women cheat less... I don't think I have a male friend that would say no to no-strings-attached sex with a beautiful women. I've often asked hypothetical situations to most friends who I'm close enough for them to be honest to, and they would all (being 4 people) would take up the offer and one of them was in a relationship, a functional one at that...

It's all situational... Lots of people are scum... Sounds like hes some...
 
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trancegirle said:
i would be mad about the things his saying if i didnt feel so sorry for this guy. the way he views the world is just sad really.
The man sees what he wants and takes it. He does what he has to, in order to have fun, to be happy.

What he lacks in a loving relationship, he makes up with a vibrant sex life.

Why judge a man harshly for having fun and being happy.
 
eater said:
I really don't think it takes that much time investment to do this to someone. It's actually quite easy... The way he is viewing it is quite, well... Yuck. Despite the way hes looking at this, it speaks a lot of truth imo. It's highly deppendent on the women he approaches though. Not all of them are like this; he says of 80% success, well those 20% probably wouldn't get involved with someone like this.
His sample is also going to be skewed. Based on where this guy goes, will effect the different types of women he encounters.

For example this man could say that he makes it with 80% of woman, with 20% rejection, yet this could be only encountering 50% of the types of women in the society. As that would only be 40% of women accepting him, and 10% rejecting him, with 50% unknown.
 
9mmCensor said:
The man sees what he wants and takes it. He does what he has to, in order to have fun, to be happy.

What he lacks in a loving relationship, he makes up with a vibrant sex life.

Why judge a man harshly for having fun and being happy.
i wasnt judging him harshly. twas pitty.

He states in there that his not happy he see's it that way, he wishes he didnt take the blue pill, jump down the rabbit hole yada yada yada

you choose the way you view the world imo. There may be a lot of shit but theres also a lot of good. His choosing to ignore the fact that there are any women out there that arent what he describes & to me thats sad, because that means his never going to find it.

edit: id like to add i havent always been emotionally strong. I definatly have emotional weaknesses. im logically strong but my emotions tend to lack. there were some things in there i found myself nodding to, why lie?
Doesnt mean i have nothing to offer, i have a lot. A guy who see's women the way he does though will never see that.

Anyone who tries to define an entire gender is going to be mistaken
 
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9mmCensor said:
His sample is also going to be skewed. Based on where this guy goes, will effect the different types of women he encounters.

For example this man could say that he makes it with 80% of woman, with 20% rejection, yet this could be only encountering 50% of the types of women in the society. As that would only be 40% of women accepting him, and 10% rejecting him, with 50% unknown.

Thats noted, as he is probably trying to pull in bar situations where the population that does such is skewed... But still 80% success in any environment is in is pretty grotesque... 40% success is grotesque if its encompassing the wider population...

- Sorry I'm bringing in bias here
 
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eater said:
Thats noted, as he is probably trying to pull in bar situations where the population that does such is skewed... But still 80% success in any environment is in is pretty grotesque... 40% success is grotesque if its encompassing the wider population...
The numbers are irrelevant.

Its just to illustrate that his statistics are useless because they are inaccurate to define women in general. The only real data we can pull is that 1 in 4 women approached by this man reject his sexual advances.
 
eater said:
- Sorry I'm bringing in bias here
Bias is inevitable. Just be conscious of it, and consider it when making a logical decision.

Everyone has there own personal bias, based on there own personal beliefs and experiance and life.
 
The guy has some interesting insights into the female psychology. Some truth in them. No doubt he's a total douchebag and I think he's full of shit on his personal history.
However, there is no one-size-fits-all strategy to getting laid. His techniques are probably very effective on one type of girl. If he does get laid as much as he says he does, it is probably because he's gotten very good at identifying that type of girl in social settings.
One thing he doesn't mention though. Picking up single girls is easy and one's in a long boring relationship might be slightly less so. But there is nothing more unseducable than a girl at the beginning of a new relationship.
 
The only good thing I got out of this is a new way to look at finding a new girl. For example, if I meet a girl and I can judge her well, I can figure out what will interest her, intrigue her etc. and if I can do that before even speaking to her, or at least have a good idea anyway, I can probably keep her around as she gets to know me. Now I at least have talked to someone and made them feel comfortable, which definitely could be a good first step in the right direction.

Honestly, as bad as it sounds, using someones weaknesses to your advantage is something that happens everyday. We've all done it, and it works that's why, plain and simple.
 
this dude definitely needs to be gay, i only pitty him cos he's obviously into women but will never have anything meaningful with one, and if he does he will sabotage it himself.
He sounds very obsessive with this situation. Since he tries, and does f k so many women of corse he will come across the ones who want to stray, if i ran around im sure i could do the same with males.. males have higher sex drives too so it could be easy, if you liked that sort of thing.
Sure he has points or facts but he would be a complete nut job if he didn't. (not like he dosent have problems anyway)
God dam what a fuk!!
 
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