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is there a perscription based drug like meth to help with nerve damage pain???

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First of all what a great forum,Iv only just stumbled across it looking for pill information and now im lost in threads absorbing some great posts,
to my problem I will try to keep short as possible hoping someone somewhere may be able to shed some light on my world of continuous pain,
My question is does anyone know of a prescribed methamphetamine type drug that is used to help with severe nerve damage pain????

I broke my c2 vertebrae 21 years ago now in a car accident,even tho my bones grafted together on a wrong angle with my c2 having slipped forward and off center giving me F/A left hand side movement,I like every other brake <I've had many > being young dumb and full of cum just thought I'd be able to handle it like every other accident and carry on with living life how ever I liked,all be it with pain,
From the early days I suffered extreme headaches from anything jarring or when long periods physical activity was done, but I just swallowed mega pain killers mainly all the weaker ones back in the early days and carried on or just layed up until I could restart again,
Time has seen my demise in a big way,especially over the last five years,the pain taking over to the point of no social life,changing my personality of happy go lucky person to just simply hating the world and leaving all my love ones as not wanting to infect them to my world of negativity where I don't have a real smile no longer and my days are mostly spent sitting on my arse watching bullshit movies as activity just kills me,
six months ago now I had an operation where I had nerves in my neck moved around apparently to better parts of neck where there is less muscle spasm and better clearance and a titanium plate fusing my c2/c3 together,there was a 30% chance of being paralyzed or having my lungs collapse during the op so doctors told me!!! unless doctors were just shiting me but I'm at that stage of pain I'll take any risks as I don't want to keep living like this or can't keep on living like this,
my diagnosis is extreme nerve damage in my neck that cause's all my problems so the doctors tell me which cause,
shooting sharp pains throughout body,quite random and seemingly brought on by nothing although movement and activity makes them alot worse leaving behind bad aches that make me very fatigued,
my biggest problem being the sharp pains that go up from my neck into the back of my head that causes hideous debilitating headaches,I go to sleep with a headache I awake with one only the levels change,but I'm at a stage now where the simple things in life are very hard to do and there seems to be no answer operation wise nor prescription drug wise,
over the years I have been prescribed many different types of drugs,alot of epilepsy type pills as they are nervous system stimulants but the side affects have in most cases been fucken horrible and out wieghing the little or if any help they offered,

the drugs im on now are
two 10mgs slow release morphine morning and night with three to four 10mgs fast releif morphine over period of day,
two times 0.5mgs clonazepam twice a day
four times 75mg lyrica twice a day
then the anti depresants that do nuda
and laxsol to shit etc

basically what I'm prescribed doesn't work,with only sitting on my arse all day long giving me the most relief possible from the pain that seems to be crippling me more and more with time making me useless to all I love and leading me into a lifestyle that isn't a life at all,

I've been no stranger to recreational drug use over the years and have enjoyed and tried most things on a casual basis,the drugs I've enjoyed the most eg trips,katermine,ecstasy,cannabis,meth,,
cannabis now seems to most of the time make my pain more intense,
the reason for my meth question is that I went over the top a little like most do when using it and had a habit of around 5years of constant usage, until I realized that it had taken me over and quit it for good,part reason I used so much for so long tho was it has been the only drug I have taken that has been able to give me gooooooooood relief from my headaches and other sharp pains in neck and body making me feel somewhat normal as a functioning human being again,I have told doctors of this and their reactions are all the same bar one,they all have just frowned on me,The only one who didn't said to me as soon as they make a pain killer for the nervous system along the lines of meth it will be a brake through in medical science,
I don't want to go back to being hooked on meth again but the way things are going id rather have a shorter and good quality of life than a long drugged up one on prescription drugs that offer little help and a bullshit quality of life anyway,

does anyone know of a prescription type drug that is or isn't methamphetamine but could possibly help me with relief from the type of pain I suffer so that I can hit up the specialists with some names of some drugs that may be able to help me,If they won't prescribe them to me here in New Zealand where I live I'll move to a country that well, as I desperately want even if its only a little of my life and smile back so so bad,

to anyone that has taken the time to read this I thank you and to anyone that can offer me any advice I am deeply grateful,

sincerely crashnz

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Neuropathic pain requires a pain clinic. A Doctor in a good pain clinic is going to know a ton more about successfully treating your problems, pharmacologically and non-pharmacologically than your average folk knowledgeable about recreational drugs. Here is a table with commonly used agents for neuropathic pain. There is a lot more to be considered than just getting a list of agents and personally I don't think bringing up specific drugs to Doctors works very well. Much better to let them know you want relief, what has worked, what hasn't and any drugs you can not tolerate.
 
Yeah, telling any doctor that METH of all things is the only thing that works for your pain is sure to get you labeled a drug seeker and possibly could even make it harder to get the meds you get now. (You think your quality of life is bad now, try it without any narcotic painkillers at all). It's a sad paradox that just because a person has used drugs recreationally and knows what works for them they aren't taken seriously by doctors, who are already extremely cautious about overprescribing. Add to that the fact that stimulants like meth aren't usually prescribed for pain and it becomes even more unlikely that you'll get it by being honest with your doctor.

There are prescription amphetamines, a few of which include Desoxyn (methamphetamine), Adderall (amphetamine), Ritalin (methylphenidate), and several variations of each of these, but their uses are largely restricted to narcolepsy, obesity, chronic fatigue, and ADD, not pain relief.
 
thank you very much for your help and your advice,That's exactly what most of my problem is,with on going headaches I can't
think straight most of the time,when pain is in your hand, your arm etc you can block it out most of the time,but because its
my head I just don't have a shut off valve apart from wiping myself out on pills that don't allow me to think straight when im that
bent,its a catch 22,dammed if u do dammed if u don't scenario,Thank you both for your information tho and your good advice,
but Its a shame and your right that I cant be honest with my doctor,how fucked up is that tho, the people that have the means
and the supposed trained knowledge to help,that are filling me up on highly addictive opioid drugs that just numb me without really
giving me relief, rather just masking the problem,I cant be honest with them about something I know helps and steer them in a direction
with all their knowledge that could give me some real relief because they'll think because its a street drug that has given me this
information in the first place I must be a drug seeker,I mean I've got the disfigured bones in my neck Ive just undergone a serious
operation that doesn't seem to have worked,its not like I don't have a history that shows the problem I'm trying to deal with every
single day yet like you say and are right in saying I can't be honest with the only people that are so called qualified to help me,
yeah that's so fucked up,
I'l stop my winging now because how does it go!!! I had the blues because I had no shoes
then I walked down the street only to
see someone that had no feet,
regards crashnz
 
my pain mgmt doctor had me on methadone for neuropathic pain and it's efficacy was outstanding. Top shelf. I had to switch to morphine though when the methadone increased my QT wave duration and started triggering PVC's in my heart every time i took it. Low dose even, which was strange.

Anyway, if you get yourself to pain mgmt, they'll probably use methadone on you for nerve pain, as it gives superb control.

Methamphetamine ? lol, no, I'd forget about that playing a role. Being high as a distraction is not a treatment strategy. Have you tried neurontin (gabapentin)?
 
Yes there are meth based pills as already stated, but no, you will absolutely not be getting that prescribed for nerve damage. The most fun drug you'll get for that is lyrica
 
thanks for all your advice and input,
I drove my motor home for about 4 hrs last week and the jarring motion of driving has had me totally laid up now
and in bed hating the world for what is to me five bullshit wasted days of life,
to get through the pains in my neck and the headache that takes over all of the back of my head,like your worst hangover
times 20,to get through times like these I take more morphine than prescribed,basically everyday I can take less than
prescribed I do so I have a backstop in pain killers for times like these,
morphine to me is a downer and for years and years I have tried hard not to be on it,but I had to give in about two years ago
now when the pain level just got to much to handle,I don't really get high from the morphine as the pain counter acts the drug,
sure I get the odd good sensation throughout my body and I'm a fucken zombie in the fact that I feel brain dead and it takes me
twice as long to make a cup of coffee but to me its not a high its a waste of another day still in mega pain but with most of it
being masked by this zombie creating drug,
I know people on methadone and perhaps I speak from ignorance as I have never done it myself but the few people I know that
have ended up on methadone for different reasons have all turned into total recluse do nothing go no where people,which scares
the hell out of me if that's one of the few options I have left to try to get on top of the pain I live with and going by the Merck
Manual for Neuropathic Pain that someone was kind enough to show me it is as Iv tried most of the other drugs in there for
my situation,
yes to having tried gabapentin and I guess everyone's chemical make up is different but my reaction to it was I found it screwed
me up mentally and really took over my emotions making me very angry and snappy with my kids etc,I'm on trialing lyrica or another
name for it being pregabalin which is alot better for me that goes the same sort of thing ,
I'm finding it is definitely helping me with the sharp shooting pains throughout my body making them a duller aching type feeling
instead which is alot better,but it doesn't seem to be having any affect on helping my neck or headaches,
lol to kzorro who says only fun drug for my situation is lyrica well perhaps with the mixture of what I take now already I dont
get much or any type of hit from it apart from it wiping me out somedays making me really tried,not everyday which is werid I geuss
and I haven't been taking it that long but some mornings after taking it I will just go back to sleep for 2 or 3hrs,
as far as meth being a fun drug it definitely is,but that's not why I ask if its known to be used for Neuropathic Pain at all or if anyone
out there is in a similar circumstance than me has tried it and found it to work for them,
In a way the fun side of it I guess does come into affect because when you have been crippled by severe pain for so many years
not just to get relief from that pain but to actually feel good aswel wellllllllllllllllllllllllll yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that is one hell
of a bonus when you have felt like shit for so so long,I mean just the things that most people are able to take for granted like
having sex etc,I lost the want for that years ago and meth definitely in that fun aspect brings that back in a big way,lol
but apart from the feel good fun side etc,this is a drug for me,a person that lives inside a world of 24/7 severe pain that actually
changes the sensation of pain to a totally different feeling,it takes my headache away completely and instead of sitting on my arse with
drugs that are all downers that don't work in taking the pain away anyway and only just, and I mean just mask the pain,well there just
isn't any comparison,it's like black is to white,
which is why I have asked the question to see if anyone else out there in similar circumstance as me finds the same thing I talk about
as far as meth changing the sensation of nerve damage pain to a feeling that is manageable?? its hard to describe the sensation it changes
the pain into, but it makes it a very bearable feeling enabling me to be able to actually have a day where I can do things and feel
satisfied at the end of the day instead of regretting it because of the extra pain being active has caused,
I'm surprised to find in the Merck manual that seems to be the god to doctors prescribing drugs that there isn't any reference to
a amphetamine type medicine for nerve damage pain as for me years ago I found it very affective,
problem with street meth like any other street drug is the quality and the make varies greatly not to mention the different damming
poisons that are brain damaging that are also all in that little package you pay your last cent for,
I will take the advice of talking to the pain specialists and will stay open minded and try anything they recommend but I'm fast becoming
disillusioned with the doctors and the medicines that are used and prescribed for this type of pain when to me there is one that is
prescribed for other aliments that has the possibilities to help myself and other people trapped inside there own bodies in a world of
hideous pain,
 
lol wow! are u sure u aren't currently partaking?? lol

just kidding!

seriously, years ago I used to be hooked on oxycontin... an ex of mine was getting 375 40mg oxys per month from a pain management specialist... of those 25-30 of those would be given to me. after cutting them into quarters, I would end up with roughly 100-120 doses, which I could make last around 2.5-3 weeks... :\

the fourth week I would detox.... :X

i remember weeks as being the worst times of my life... :|

my worst flu times 100... :p

fast forward 2 or 3 years: circumstances lead to the end of any resources to opiates at all... 8o

longest detox of my life.... :(

depression for months on end...:o

introduced to meth, I started feeling exactly the same feeling you describe!!! =D

fast forward 2 or 3 years after my introduction to meth and you reach find the absolute lowest point in my life (one I never want to re-live) but that's another story! 8)

anyways, I wanted to say I know what you are talking about... i felt that way once to while transitioning away from opioids... %)
 
Dude, what's the deal with your post structure? I can barely follow anything you're saying
 
kzorro said:
Dude, what's the deal with your post structure? I can barely follow anything you're saying
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he composed in another app and the cut/paste caused formatting probs.

Or so it appears.

I read it all. I feel for you, i've been through med after med and though it's not my back, I have the same quality of life issues as the OP.

Meth/Amphetamine however is just going to take it's toll on your heart, even if you do BS your way into a supply (fake ADD, etc.). It's not worth the toll on your heart. One year of adderall overuse and my left ventricle is already enlarged.

Anything but speed bro
 
soniq said:
my pain mgmt doctor had me on methadone for neuropathic pain and it's efficacy was outstanding. Top shelf. I had to switch to morphine though when the methadone increased my QT wave duration and started triggering PVC's in my heart every time i took it. Low dose even, which was strange.

Anyway, if you get yourself to pain mgmt, they'll probably use methadone on you for nerve pain, as it gives superb control.

Methamphetamine ? lol, no, I'd forget about that playing a role. Being high as a distraction is not a treatment strategy. Have you tried neurontin (gabapentin)?
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what he said bout meth, and what he said bout gabapentin...thats what its used for, nerve pain

idk if its dangerouse or not but maybe a mix of gabapentin and lyrica(premagablin?)
 
I've heard of a doctor in Charlotte prescribing Amphetamine for back pain. Never other than that though...
Amphetamine has the same level of analgesia as morphine, so idk...
 
rollontheground said:
what he said bout meth, and what he said bout gabapentin...thats what its used for, nerve pain

idk if its dangerouse or not but maybe a mix of gabapentin and lyrica(premagablin?)
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My GP who scripts my MS Contin is pushing for me to go on Lyrica, soon, as my tolerance is really scaring her !
My Pharmacist says that Gabapentin and Pregabalin are a molecular match - the only difference is price, Gabapentin being about 5X the price of Pregabalin.

To the OPer 'NZ: I am doing peripheral neuropathy (both feet from the ankle bone to toes) after 35 years of T1 Diabetes - no more car, and waiting for a Power Chair.
Unmedicated, the pain nearly knocks me unconcious - and the Morphine, Zoloft, and a liquids-only diet, and etc etc. ad nauseum, keep me living a "shut in" life / if you can call it a life at all. I can fully identify with all your circumstances and debilitations dude - and you are right: it's not a real life anymore.
I at least had a helluva great life before getting punched down, and would have laughed if someone had said that this outcome was even a possibility.
I really hope you find an answer, cause with a young family like that I don't think you can really see 'taking the bridge' as any kind of an option for you.
On the other hand, living with that much mind-altering pain, there really aren't any rules that you can be held to anymore - yeah, I think about it too.
But .. nonetheless .. hang in there, OK ? - you never know what's coming your way next, especially in these times when there's a 'new cure' coming out every day.
( and I really hope you can get laid again too !! ) - ( then write and tell me about it ! )
 
When I had severe, untreated neuralgia, i noticed amp like stims (methcathinone, meth bomb X's) definitely had a strong pain killing effect. I don't know if it was just distraction or true analgesia. The day after, my pain returned ten fold and this rebound pain lasted up to a week.

You can also try tramadol for nerve pain - it works OK and is a stimulant, almost an amp like feeling at higher doses. Maybe it will treat your pain better.

I eventually found the only thing to treat the severe pain I had from neuralgia was huge doses of gabapentin or pregabalin. I was on 2x-3x the max dose(up to 3600mg x 3 gabapentin at one stage), the docs were concerned but i think they were more relieved that i was getting adequate pain relief from non-opiate, low abuse potential drugs.
 
i lost my wife to an overdose,and her mother really lost it. She told the doctor she had problems focusing. Basically couldnt live day to day so they gave her adderall to keep focused.As for the morphine as long as you have been taking it, it might be time to switch up your painkiller. There is a newer drug called opana, I believe it is oxymorphone almost the same class as morhine but i found the opana has been more effective. The opana with a side of addys youll get the feeling your looking for.As previously stated speed really takes a toll on your body, your heart liver kidnys.but i believe it is effective and if you can get on opana it will help your pain immensely
 
Modafinil, which is a mild stimulant without the addictiveness or neurotoxicity of methamphetamine, is sometimes prescribed for fibromyalgia - mainly for brain fogginess associated with the neuropathic pain.
 
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