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Is There A Heroin Scene In Cairns

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MovedToCairns

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Hi,

I was just wandering if there was much of a heroin scene in Cairns Qld? If so whats the gear like purity wise? Mostly white pretty easily soluble rocks to powder? or more actual brown to beige sometimes need heating sometimes vinegar smelling rocks and powder? Or a bit of both?

Also has anyone gotten on the opiate withdrawal program program eg 'Done, Bupe up here? If so how long was the waiting period before they put you on? any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

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from my little knowledge of and have visited Cairns in recent years it's drug scene is more centred around "party drugs" like LSD, MDMA, Coke, Meth and a shitload of nightclubs with drunken aussie and overseas tourists.

last time i was there i was in wd's and just drank at least a bottle of vodka + a day there and asked around about the opiate scene and it's either very exclusive which is most likely or pretty much non-existent as noone could point me in any direction nor help out.

get settled in, make friends, you know the game, man.
 
Hey dude, wish I could give you the link but I don't remember where I was reading it exactly. I have gotten pretty into opiates the last year or so, and particularly so the last few months. Been doing a lot of reading about pharmacology of opiates, aswell as good drug combo's/potentiators and reading about drug trends in Australia and abroad.

I REALLY wish I could give you a link, and I may just have a dig around later if I don't get too stoned. But recently I was reading a PDF file on Australian drug trends, I am pretty sure the study/survey was done in the early 00's but don't quote me on it. Anyway, it seemed to say there was *some* heroin in Cairns but it was largely overshadowed by intraveinous use of morphine, particularly MS CONTIN. From what I understand it is possible to purchase these on the street, but with zero geographical knowledge of Cairns and the rules of the forum prohibiting me doing so anyway, I could not tell you where. (I mention my lack of geographical knowledge as a hint I am not worth PMing for sources ;))

Anyway, you might want to hit a shitload of pharmacies for panafen plus and rikodeine to try keep yourself well in the meantime. Good luck getting on to some harder opiates, hopefully your lucky enough to find smack or atleast morphine might be relatively cheap in comparison. The report was definately a few years old but I don't imagine a whole hell of a lot changing up there.
 
OK so this isn't the report I mentioned before, but it has some useful info on drug trends in QLD in the year 2006. I will put some relevant quotes here as well as the link. Link

"After increasing consistently from 2001 to 2004, in 2005 the proportion of IDU reporting recent use and injection of morphine dropped markedly, before rising again in 2006 (see Figure 76). In every year, almost all of those reporting recent use indicated recent injection of morphine, and for the first time in 2006, the majority of IDU reported injecting morphine recently. Among those reporting recent morphine injection, the median frequency of use was 10 days in the last 6-months. An increase in morphine injection is also evident in the proportion nominating morphine as the last drug injected, with this proportion rising from 0% in 2001 to 15% in 2006. For the first time in 2006, a noteworthy minority (9% ) nominated morphine as their drug of choice (Figure 76). Those reporting recent illicit morphine use were also significantly more likely to report recent use of heroin.
Despite this, a number of KE, particularly those working in treatment settings, reported an increase in morphine use, injection and dependence among IDU. KE observed that over the last few years morphine has “taken the place of heroin” for some IDU, due to its reliable availability, consistent purity and lower price."

"Among those reporting recent morphine use, Figure 77 shows the forms of morphine most used by IDU in the preceding six months. Consistently, the vast majority in each year have reported mostly using illicit morphine, with this proportion reaching a peak of 97% in 2005 before falling to 88% in 2006. As in previous years, the main brand of morphine used by IDU (83% of recent users) in 2006 was MS Contin."

"Use of heroin among IDU in Queensland declined from 2004 to 2005, and despite little change in the proportion reporting recent use in 2006, there is evidence that this trend has continued. Between 2005 and 2006 there was a decline in the proportion of IDU identifying heroin as the drug most often injected in the last month (from 42% to 32% ), in the proportion nominating heroin as the last drug injected (from 39% to 32% ) and in the proportion reporting daily heroin use in the last six months (from 14% to 10% ). Heroin use among IDU has fluctuated each year since 2000, with a large drop in use evident in 2001 (Figure 12). Consistent with KE reports, IDU data from 2006 suggest that this instability in the heroin market has continued. Although all respondents reporting recent heroin use reported recent injection of heroin, a small minority also reported smoking (6% ) or swallowing (1% ) heroin recently."

"Homebake
Figure 14 shows the proportion of IDU reporting recent use of homebake heroin and, among recent users, the median number of days of use in the last six months. In each year fewer than 10% of IDU have reported recent use of homebake, and in 2006 although 35% of IDU reported lifetime use of homebake, only 5% reported recent use. All recent users in 2006 also reported injecting homebake heroin recently. Among recent users, the median frequency of use has increased markedly in recent years, from 0.5 days (i.e. once a year) in 2003 to 11 days in the last six months (i.e. almost once a fortnight) in 2006."

"Figure 8 illustrates the locations in which heroin was obtained in the previous six months, in 2006. The most commonly cited location for obtaining heroin was an ‘agreed public location’ (49% ), with smaller proportions of IDU reporting recently obtaining heroin from a dealer’s home (27% ), in a street market (18% ), or via home delivery (18% )."

"IDU reports in 2006 suggest that the availability of heroin in south-east Queensland has declined recently. Of those who responded in 2006, only 25% reported availability as ‘very easy’ (versus 34% in 2005), while 19% described current availability as ‘difficult’ (versus 7% in 2005). Similarly, of those who responded in 2006, 33% reported that heroin had become harder to get in recent times (versus 13% in 2005) (Table 5).
Following a significant heroin shortage in 2001, in 2005 there was some evidence of a continued return of heroin to the Queensland market (Figure 6), however, data from 2006 suggest that this trend has not continued. Although 25% of those responding in 2006 reported that heroin was ‘very easy’ to get, this proportion is lower than in any other year in which the IDRS has been conducted in Queensland. Similarly, the proportion of IDU who perceive heroin availability in 2006 as ‘difficult’ (19% ) is higher than in any previous year, including at the peak of the heroin shortage in 2001 (13% ) and 2002 (15% )."

"The median purity and number of heroin seizures made by QPS and AFP in Queensland, from 1999/00 to 2004/05 are illustrated in Figures 9 and 10 respectively. The median purity of QPS seizures dropped markedly from the fourth quarter of 2000 (44% ) to the first quarter of 2001 (16% ), in the context of the heroin shortage, however, the lowest median purity was recorded during the second quarter of 2002. The median purity of QPS seizures has risen since this time, and over the 2004/05 financial year the median purity of analysed QPS seizures was 23.4%. The median purity rose dramatically in the last quarter of 2004/05 to 67.7%, however, as this figure is based on only 16 seizures, it would be premature to conclude that the average purity of heroin in the market has risen. Nevertheless, Figure 9 also shows the moving average of QPS seizures, averaged across 4 quarters – this trend line clearly shows the decline in purity during the heroin shortage, and also suggests an upward trend in heroin purity since mid 2002. According to some law enforcement KE, the purity of heroin in Queensland continues to be distinctly variable.
Whereas QPS is likely to make a relatively large number of seizures within the Queensland border, AFP seizures are likely to reflect border interdiction efforts. Consequently, AFP seizures tend to be smaller in number, but higher in purity. The median purity of AFP seizures in Queensland rose between 2002 and 2004, from 57% in the second quarter of 2002 to 73% in the second quarter of 2004, however, in 2004/05 only 3 seizures were made in Queensland, with a median purity of 60.8%"

I apologize to the mods if some of the availability trends in there are inappropriate, as it is publicly available published statistics and not "discussion" I felt it was approriate, if its not then feel free to edit or request me to do so. :D

To the OP, it is evident there is a heroin scene in QLD, although less than there is in Sydney or Melbourne. Going by that report it is possible to obtain heroin on the street but it is certainly not the most reliable way. I did not post prices as that is not allowed but if you want an idea it is all in the link I gave you. You are probably more likely to get morphine but good luck in your endeavours to find sweet lady h.
 
^you'll find living in a lot of places in QLD the more "approachable" and "sociable" groups are those that use pharamceuiticals; morphine, methadone (physeptone) and oxycontin in particular. in my town there is a heroin scene but it's very very excuslive - what junkie wants some other bastard buying out their dude before they re-up and are left in wd. dr shopping was quite prevalent from the people i used to hang around. a lot of qld opiate use in my experience has been pharmaceutiical opiates, not heroin.

in places such as brisbane and gold coast are where you're best chances of sourcing heroin are imo.
 
^ That seems pretty consistent with a lot of what is in that report. I imagined that the heroin would probably be centred around Brisbane and GC where it was mainly pharm opiates around the rest of QLD, pretty much the same as I imagine it is in rural VIC or NSW.

I have always wondered why QLD never had the heroin scene of VIC and NSW, it seems odd it just didn't take off there as much as it did elsewhere.

I wish I was more aware of a pharm scene down here, but it seems to mainly consist of benzos such as xanax and valium with the odd trickle of oxy and the like. The vast majority of opiate abuse I am aware of is centred around either heroin or CWE.
 
yeah but you'd think there would be atleast a little more going round, I been on the internet for last few day and theres people getting done through international airport etc. so there must be a little atleast it's fucking ridiculous. But as everyone else has said there just must be an exclusive scene here that stocks up and the rest of the gear goes elsewhere. I haven't seen anything close to like sydney up here. There must be people but I suppose it's more on the in the know type as there are no street dealers/junkies around anywhere even tried staying around the fit machine but nothing. This place is fucked
 
just fully read that report, DM. interesting, thanks for posting that.

interesting statistics. i didn't click the link, but does it tell in the linked article where they got all those statistics from?

homebake is not too prevalent where i live but it's definitely around. there seems to be a string of deathly OD's in a short period on either heroin, homebake or prescription opaites in my town each year :|
 
There must be people but I suppose it's more on the in the know type as there are no street dealers/junkies around anywhere even tried staying around the fit machine but nothing. This place is fucked

lol, i know what you mean man, but be extremely careful doing that. you might end up being pickced up by LE if unlucky.

settle into the place before worrying about finding anything, meet people. in the sticky at the top of the forums in the "opiate detox and maintenance" thread i've got a post toward the end which has a few places in cairns who have clinics. check it out, as well as ring around for local doctors who can prescribe bupe or methadone if you really need to be on maintenance.

here you go Inventory of Specialist Alcohol and Drug Treatment Agencies in Queensland
 
Lefty it has a reference list at the bottom of the PDF file and at the start it says it is "Findings from the Illicit Drug Reporting System (IDRS)"

I found a few other quotes worth chucking in this thread for those interested.

"The impact of the 2001 heroin shortage continues to be evident in the Queensland heroin market, with evidence of on-going and perhaps increased suppression of supply, and unstable purity. There has been relatively little change in the price of heroin over time, indicating that at the retail level, price may be a relatively insensitive indicator of market dynamics. Perhaps indicative of this on-going suppression of the heroin market, there was evidence of a continued decline in heroin use among IDU in 2006. The average age of IDU attending NSP continues to increase, and those injecting heroin are typically older than those injecting methamphetamine. To an increasing extent heroin may be, as some KE have described it, “a drug of a previous generation”.
The continued decline of the heroin market in Queensland is also reflected in indicator data, with declines in the number of arrests for possession, the number of calls to telephone help lines, the rate of self-reported overdose, and the number of pharmacotherapy registrations. The number of hospital admissions for opioids has been low and stable, however, this figure may also reflect the increasing number of IDU turning to alternative opioids (see Section 11.5) in response to a suppressed heroin market. Despite this, the number and weight of heroin importations intercepted at the Australian border increased in the first two quarters of 2006.
In contrast to most other Australia jurisdictions, the vast majority of opioid pharmacotherapy clients in Queensland are registered with a public prescriber. Despite high rates of injecting drug use and opiate dependence among new prison receptions, only 1% of client registrations in Queensland (versus 6.4% nationally) were in correctional facilities."

"Trends in illicit opioid use among IDU are, to an extent, the mirror image of those for heroin. In the context of a sustained suppression of the heroin market in Queensland, IDU appear to be increasingly sourcing and injecting a range of alternative opiates including morphine, methadone, buprenorphine and oxycodone. Compared to heroin, these alternative, pharmaceutical opioid preparations are of consistent purity, and relatively consistent price and availability. However, because they are not designed to be injected, they carry the potential for significant injection-related harm.
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Following trends in opioid pharmacotherapy treatment, the proportion of IDU reporting recent use and injection of illicit methadone has decreased since 2004, while the proportion reporting use and injection of illicit buprenorphine increased. In 2006, fifteen percent of IDU reported recent use of illicit methadone, with almost all of these reporting recent injection of illicit methadone. Use and injection of illicit buprenorphine has increased consistently since 2003, with one in four reporting recent injection in 2006. There continues to be extensive diversion of buprenorphine among IDU, with half of those who reported recent use indicating that they had ‘mostly’ used illicit buprenorphine in the last six months. At least one dispensing service in south-east Queensland has implemented a policy precluding buprenorphine take-away doses, in an effort to reverse this trend.
Use and injection of illicit morphine continues to be endemic among IDU in Queensland. In 2006 more than half of those interviewed reported recent use and injection of illicit morphine, and almost one in ten identified morphine as their drug of choice. Among those reporting recent morphine use, MS Contin 100mg tablets continue to be the favoured brand for injection.
In recent years there has been a trend among IDU in Queensland towards use and injection of illicit oxycodone. Prior to 2005, IDU interviewed for the IDRS were not asked specifically about oxycodone, however, in 2005 16% reported recent use, and 14% specified recent injection. In 2006 these proportions increased to 21% and 18% respectively. Just as the majority of IDU report that they mainly use ‘illicit’ (versus ‘licit’) morphine, 70% of those reporting recent use of oxycodone in 2006 reported mainly using ‘illicit’ oxycodone. The preferred brand for injection appears to be Oxycontin.
Evidently, one undesirable consequence of the sustained heroin shortage in Queensland has been a marked increase in the use and injection of other, cheaper and more reliable opiates. These alternative opiates are not designed to be injected, and a proportion of IDU in 2006 reported a range of injection-related harms as a consequence of injecting these preparations."

Sorry about all the references to figures and diagrams, I am just copy and pasting and don't have time to go through and delete all that shit. I reccomend anyone in QLD reads the report, atleast the parts relevant to their DOC's because there is some interesting info.
 
i've just reported all the off topic crap in here so hopefully a mod should clean it up soon, so try and keep it on topic guys:) the information in here is going to be overlooked because of all the bickering...
 
To be honest without sounding too harsh i think this is an inappropriate thread. Theres a scene everywhere. Some places its big other places its considerably smaller. Its all about who u know. Most Opiate users try to stay under the radar. Their choice of usage is at less known locations. Not many people hang out when using opiates unless they are homeless or sumfn. TV+munchies+warm bed+opies nufn beats it lol
 
how is it inappropriate? you just read the heading, I want to know what kind of gear there is brown/white and how long the waiting period is to get 'done ?
 
To be honest without sounding too harsh i think this is an inappropriate thread. Theres a scene everywhere. Some places its big other places its considerably smaller. Its all about who u know. Most Opiate users try to stay under the radar. Their choice of usage is at less known locations. Not many people hang out when using opiates unless they are homeless or sumfn. TV+munchies+warm bed+opies nufn beats it lol

well, why don't we can the "so who like's benzos thread" while we're at it since at first look you'd think it'd be full og "i'm so hai on xanax, shit rocks", well more than there are already. and the lsd discussion thread as well since it's only people talking about their tabs when there's already another lsd thread8)

and how long the waiting period is to get 'done ?

that's something we can't answer. it's up you to find the necessary services and go from there. check out that link i put in before, also check the phone book for doctors surgeries and have a ring around if they have any prescribing doctors. even a pharmacist will be able to point you in the right direction.

best of luck, man!
 
how is it inappropriate? you just read the heading, I want to know what kind of gear there is brown/white and how long the waiting period is to get 'done ?

My apology if u came out as being "rude" wasnt my intention man but im guessing there could be many types depending on who u know. Ive lived in a few countries and in each one there were several types. In Sydney my source usually gets white rocks or powder but i have seen brown tar as well. Just saying that each person can score different gear. What matters most is the purity and trust. Both are equally good but just be careful buying stepped on crap.
 
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Optional on the TV and throw in a cuddle buddy to use the opiates with and you have pretty much described my perfect night. LOL

If only my girl was into that sort of things. That would be fuking awesome but id never get someone to use any form of drug that normally doesnt. I wouldnt want to bear the thought in my life that i can potentially ruin someones life. But yea i can imagine it would be cool. Have done MDMA with a girl who occasionally does em and that was pretty fun chatting till the morning (D and M's) LOL
 
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