Gnostic Bishop
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Is the need of salvation an evil lie from religions?
Some religions like Christianity and Islam teach that peopleare condemned by God and that we have to work to gain salvation. God created usill, and orders us to be well, on pain of tremendous eternal torture andeventual death. This teaching follows the one where we are told that God isunknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways. This makes the notionsof condemnation and the need for salvation obvious lies.
Gnostic Christianity does not use this type of carrot andstick motivation in its theology. We are Universalists and only see a heaven, nohell. We think God too good a creator to ever have to condemn anyone. Our Godis a winner, not the loser God that Christianity has invented. All the Gods aremyths created to help us reach our highest human potential and are only toolsto open our inner eye. Our single eye as Jesus calls it.
How we can forgive ourselves is that as Universalists, wehave tied righteousness to equality. The logic trail from there says that ifGod is to punish anyone, he would have to punish everyone as everyonecontributes to what we all are.
For instance. If Godwere to punish Hitler, he would have to revue what made Hitler what he ended upbeing. God would follow his time line and see perhaps that his parents spankedhim and God would know what we know today, that spanking creates resentment anda delinquent attitude. That beginning would see Hitler's parents setting hismindset which eventually flowered into his tyrannical nature. So to be just, God would automatically haveto punish Hitler's parents. That same logic would apply to everyone whocontributed or facilitated Hitler's rise to infamy.
So for you and me to blame just ourselves for what we arewould be quite unjust. This is not to say that we hold no responsibility forour actions, just not all of them.
Do you agree that the need of Salvation promoted by religionsis an evil lie?
Regards
DL
Some religions like Christianity and Islam teach that peopleare condemned by God and that we have to work to gain salvation. God created usill, and orders us to be well, on pain of tremendous eternal torture andeventual death. This teaching follows the one where we are told that God isunknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways. This makes the notionsof condemnation and the need for salvation obvious lies.
Gnostic Christianity does not use this type of carrot andstick motivation in its theology. We are Universalists and only see a heaven, nohell. We think God too good a creator to ever have to condemn anyone. Our Godis a winner, not the loser God that Christianity has invented. All the Gods aremyths created to help us reach our highest human potential and are only toolsto open our inner eye. Our single eye as Jesus calls it.
How we can forgive ourselves is that as Universalists, wehave tied righteousness to equality. The logic trail from there says that ifGod is to punish anyone, he would have to punish everyone as everyonecontributes to what we all are.
For instance. If Godwere to punish Hitler, he would have to revue what made Hitler what he ended upbeing. God would follow his time line and see perhaps that his parents spankedhim and God would know what we know today, that spanking creates resentment anda delinquent attitude. That beginning would see Hitler's parents setting hismindset which eventually flowered into his tyrannical nature. So to be just, God would automatically haveto punish Hitler's parents. That same logic would apply to everyone whocontributed or facilitated Hitler's rise to infamy.
So for you and me to blame just ourselves for what we arewould be quite unjust. This is not to say that we hold no responsibility forour actions, just not all of them.
Do you agree that the need of Salvation promoted by religionsis an evil lie?
Regards
DL